Napoleonthechimp
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Charnwood here. There's nothing but bigots and idiots here... in other words it's a conservative stronghold with leanings toward the BNP.
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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage
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Dark Machine
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defel1111 said:
Have you seen the records of some of them? They practically are, and they have something worse on speed-dial, Murdoch!
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Spirit of Jazz
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Napoleonthechimp said:
Snap! I've ditched so many friends I had from school due the the racism their parents instilled in them.
the guardian endorses the lib dems.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/30/the-liberal-moment-has-come
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/30/the-liberal-moment-has-come
Dark Machine
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Brown on Paxman....first half...HOLY FUCKING SHIT! Brown is bitchslapping Pax.
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Meadows said:
Did you expect him to say anything else though? Clegg and Cameron wouldn't say anything about it either, it's all media hype right now.
Napoleonthechimp
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The thing that really turns me against the tories is Murdoch's support with the caveat that Cameron dismantles the BBC. Fuckers.
Interesting article about polls:
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2010/04/30/what-the-post-debate-reaction-polls-tell-us/
http://blogs.channel4.com/snowblog/2010/04/30/what-the-post-debate-reaction-polls-tell-us/
Wow, that was actually an impressive performance from Brown on Paxman. I was expecting him to get completely slaughtered and not give any satisfactory responses, but he really went on the aggressive.
I suppose now he thinks they have so little to lose he's just going to go for it. Can't help but think he'd have done better if he'd been like this from the start.
I suppose now he thinks they have so little to lose he's just going to go for it. Can't help but think he'd have done better if he'd been like this from the start.
Interesting article by Krugman in the NYTimes about Britain and the Euro:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/why-isnt-britain-in-more-trouble/
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/why-isnt-britain-in-more-trouble/
Napoleonthechimp
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Oh wait... upon further investigation the accusations have come from the spin doctor extraordinaire Lord Mandelson. However... the Murdoch empire hates the BBC and IS in league with the Conservatives.curls said:
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Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience ð¤
Napoleonthechimp said:
Would not surprise me if this was true.
I remember somebody said it best by stating something along the lines of that the Conservative party should be relegated to the political lunatic fringe. :lol
TheGreatDave
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Brown is pretty impressive in this Paxman interview. Dude's got a backbone.
scotcheggz
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Just watched the Paxman/Brown interview on the iPlayer. Brown came across really well I thought, he dealt with paxman like a pro. I dunno how he kept a straight face though when he said he is still gunning for a labour majority.
freethought
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Watching the Paxman interview on the iPlayer, Brown did not want to give an answer on VAT.
He's never said a truer word.Gordon Brown said:
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That's one of the sucky things about being way down in the polls, you have to maintain public denial no matter how obvious your imminent loss is. I still remember John Major doing a Comical Ali act right up to the last minute when it was obvious he was leading his party to utter demolition.scotcheggz said:
Did he just call Morrisons shit? Because that's just wrong.Chinner said:
Morrisons > Asda > Tesco > Sainsburys (Waitrose isn't a real supermarket, just a place to spend too much on your food).
Huh? He clearly said that they wouldn't be raising it. In fact, out of the three leaders he's gave the clearest answer.
MarshMellow96
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Oh my look at those comments. Cameron is a 'right wing sack of piss' :lol
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louis89 said:
Because he finally realised that he's so unpopular as a person with the public (why give a toss what the PM is like as a person I say myself) that he's abandoned trying to soften his image. In the debate and in the Paxman interview he was more like himself, grumpy, aggressive, focused and pushing his opinions and agenda on the main issues. He also shut Paxman up several times, refusing to be interrupted by him and taking control of the interview. WHERE has this Brown been all this time?
This serperates him big time from Clegg and Cameron, "you may not like me as a man, but I can damn well run this country better than those two!" Where is it written that you have to adore your leader as a person? And before the Tory lot come in saying he ran the country into the ground, get real. Thatcher cut so much from public services during the last Tory tenure it needed massive influxes of cash just to get stuff like the NHS running even close to properly again. Brown had a good line in that interview where he called out Paxman (and the entire media really) by saying "I know what you're trying to do...blame me for everything, but the fact is I didn't cause the global financial meltdown and none of the developed nations governments saw it coming." I was also enlightened by his explanation that he DID actually fix the inflation problem (which I was too young to understand at the time) which was ravaging the UK at the time Labour came to power.
I say all this as a Lib Dem voter of course, and disagree with Brown on many of his policies, particularly that of not forcing nationalised banks to lend, too much central bureaucracy in public services and too much extension of the Thatcherite reliance on The City. But damn he finally decided to come out swinging like a Champ, "I'm the PM, and you know bugger all!" was the message to Paxman and the media, and to be blunt, he was damn right, good on him.
brown spitting fire at paxman. probably the most prime ministerial he's sounded in five years. policies aside, he exhibited authoritative qualities that i haven't seen in any of the three candidates throughout the whole media circus surrounding the election. a total departure from the post-blair/obama presidential personality that has been great objective throughout.
brought back shades of vince cable's performance on the chancellors debate, which (for me) wiped the floor with clegg's performances in the prime ministerial debates. but then maybe i'm not the target demographic.
the big issue is electoral reform though, takes priority over all else. so while there are certain issues i'm not with the lib dems on (nuclear power for one) this policy makes it a no brainer.
it's interviews like these that make me want the bbc to be regarded as a cherished national institution on par with the nhs. paxman is an attack dog for sure, but you can't fault his impartiality. he exposes the weak points and goes to town on his subjects without fear of reprieve, and as merciless and belligerent as the process is, there is no better way to learn their true nature. and in this case, did brown a service that the highest paid spin doctors and personality coaches in the land couldn't.
brought back shades of vince cable's performance on the chancellors debate, which (for me) wiped the floor with clegg's performances in the prime ministerial debates. but then maybe i'm not the target demographic.
the big issue is electoral reform though, takes priority over all else. so while there are certain issues i'm not with the lib dems on (nuclear power for one) this policy makes it a no brainer.
it's interviews like these that make me want the bbc to be regarded as a cherished national institution on par with the nhs. paxman is an attack dog for sure, but you can't fault his impartiality. he exposes the weak points and goes to town on his subjects without fear of reprieve, and as merciless and belligerent as the process is, there is no better way to learn their true nature. and in this case, did brown a service that the highest paid spin doctors and personality coaches in the land couldn't.
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Chinner said:
I am disappoint.
J Tourettes
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CRD90 said:
Mozzers is for Northern chavs.
Still agree with the order, although Waitrose is a real supermarket
The guardian has just come out and said straight 'vote lib dem, unless they cant win your seat in which case vote labour'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/30/the-liberal-moment-has-come
Mind you the article also says they've been asking for political reform since 1832, so that shows just how influential the Guardian is.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/30/the-liberal-moment-has-come
Mind you the article also says they've been asking for political reform since 1832, so that shows just how influential the Guardian is.
Dark Machine
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Honestly, if you have the money to go to Waitrose...go to M&S instead.
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CRD90 said:
We must have watched a different interview then. The Brown I saw was fumbling round on that answer for at least a minute. His answer was basically; "We're not going to raise VAT because it's not in our plans to raise the VAT" meaning literally nothing.
Balls was doing the same fumbling on QT on Thursday. Labour have not ruled out a rise on VAT.
Have to agree with you guys on Brown's performance. Very impressive indeed. He doesn't have the policies, and it was too little too late, but what an excellent performance. A total departure from the way he has run his campaign so far, which has been terrible and desperate, constantly going on lame attacks against the tories, trying to appear likable, selling his policies in a terrible terrible way and just being run entirely by Mandelson's spin. Instead he embraced his powerful personality and walked all over Paxman at times; he was assertive, clear and stood up for his economic record and policies in a way i haven't seen him do before, even if i didn't necessarily agree with what he was saying. I wish we had had this Brown for the entire election campaign, not the mess that we saw before that.
I have to agree that Brown did well with Paxman, especially on defending his record. All too late though - why wasn't he on this kind of form on Thursday night?
LOTS of polls later, since it's the last Sunday before polling day. ICM, YouGov, BPIX, Angus Reid, ComRes are expected, with possibly one more. With that many, we'll start to get a clear picture post-"bigotgate" and post-debate.
LOTS of polls later, since it's the last Sunday before polling day. ICM, YouGov, BPIX, Angus Reid, ComRes are expected, with possibly one more. With that many, we'll start to get a clear picture post-"bigotgate" and post-debate.
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