Between £6.70 & £7.50 on average.
Oh well, someone has to pay for the NHS, might as well be us smokers.
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Between £6.70 & £7.50 on average.
Oh well, someone has to pay for the NHS, might as well be us smokers.
jesus. I remember when it used to be 10p for a single from the 5th year in the playground.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
You should do what my dad does - get a day return to Barcelona on Ryanair or something, then just spend the day touring the city. When it's time to go back, just pop into one of those little tobacconists and buy up a fuckload of cartons.
He even gets some pouches of baccy to sell to his mates at work for a profit.
He even gets some pouches of baccy to sell to his mates at work for a profit.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Adding VAT to ALL hotly served food regardless of chain. sausage rolls, pies, warm food sold at Supermarkets... all now 20% more expensive.
Last years riots will be nothing. The fires of spurned Greggs regulars are going to burn everything down to the ground.
Last years riots will be nothing. The fires of spurned Greggs regulars are going to burn everything down to the ground.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
He's never had any problems in the past. Aren't you allowed to bring a certain amount back?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
CHEEZMO;36259425 said:
As much as you want, but you have to prove personal use which is difficult to do. If you have 500 cartons they will seize it all.
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Ah. Well yeah, it's not like we ship it back in crates or something. Just what he can fit in a couple of carrier bags or a backpack or w/e.
so it looks like harsh austerity isn't just a short-term failure (at least those interest rates are low, so we can borrow cheaply to pay the increased welfare bill right guys???), it might also be doing long-term damage
http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/strange-case-of-disappearing-productive.html
woop woop big up the party of economic responsibility
http://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/strange-case-of-disappearing-productive.html
woop woop big up the party of economic responsibility
If it wasnt for the austerity measures then the international markets wouldn't have had any faith in the UK recovering from the recession and the cost of debt would have risen massively and we would be facing a greek situation.
With them and current financial...I wont say success's but perhaps 'gains' the UK's figures are looking healthier and the international markets are still trading with us on very good terms. If we were to lose the faith of those groups the cost of debt would rise massively to a point where the UK could never pay it off and we would simply collapse, to be seen to be doing something is massively important even if it pisses of some public sector workers.
With them and current financial...I wont say success's but perhaps 'gains' the UK's figures are looking healthier and the international markets are still trading with us on very good terms. If we were to lose the faith of those groups the cost of debt would rise massively to a point where the UK could never pay it off and we would simply collapse, to be seen to be doing something is massively important even if it pisses of some public sector workers.
Alright, am I the only one who's starting to get pissed off that the first 15 minutes of every PMQs is spent by EVERYONE paying their respects to soldiers who have died recently. It just comes across as really melodramatic and fake. Each party, and then many individual MPs have taken to naming every soldier that has died and their regiment and asking the PM if they share their respects.
It's just PR, of course they send their respects and are sad about the deaths, but the first 15 minutes of PMQs needs to stop being taken up by some odd form of melodramatic ballet.
It's just PR, of course they send their respects and are sad about the deaths, but the first 15 minutes of PMQs needs to stop being taken up by some odd form of melodramatic ballet.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
This is a really interesting development: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/24/zac-goldsmith-ed-miliband-capitalism
You don't often hear a good word said about Mr. Milliband, though he is often on the money (I wouldn't call him an effective communicator/leader). However, Goldsmith is a bit of a slimeball.
You don't often hear a good word said about Mr. Milliband, though he is often on the money (I wouldn't call him an effective communicator/leader). However, Goldsmith is a bit of a slimeball.
It's good for leaders to publicly show they acknowledge the individuality of every grunt they send to get killed. Listing their names is the most efficient and traditional way.
milanbaros
Member?
I'm sorry but this analysis is flawed. The reasons for the 'greek' situation are very different from the UK.
There is 0% chance the UK could default on its debt. There would never be any reason why we would, so the default credit risk is practically 0%. The UK gilt yields reflect a low interest environment...a weak growth environment.
Osbourne can keep saying it over and over again but it just not true.
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
I think it is just a waste of Parliamentary time, and not particularly traditional either. If this had been the tradition in Lloyd George's day then one session of PMQs would have lasted the entire war. And it'll get dropped pretty damn fast as a 'tradition' next time we lose soldiers by the thousand rather than by the handful.
By all means show respect, but a single ministerial announcement from, say, the Minister of Defence would be better than everybody parrotting - and sometimes mispronouncing - the same stuff.
If I were the father of one of those killed I can't imagine I would be anything other than uncomfortable at all that self-serving repetitive plangency.
EDIT: Just a thought. Even if this is somehow the 'right' thing to do then should we not, say, do the same for those killed by medical negligence in the NHS? Or would that be too big an ask?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17501618
MASSIVE STORY
Co-Treasurer of the Conservative party sold access to David Cameron for £250,000. This goes right to the heart of the Conservative party.
Cruddas basically implies that these meetings (lobbying) have a huge effect on the decision making of Osborne/Cameron. No mention of the Liberal Democrats as of yet, they haven't been implicated, hopefully it will stay that way, they're increasingly becoming attractive as an anti-corruption vote.
This could have HUGE consequences. Cruddas (co-treasurer) is obviously gonna go, but could this affect Cameron? This is the second time he's put extensive trust in someone who shouldn't have had it (Coulson). Could some back-benchers bay for blood? Could we see some defections to the Lib Dems? Or UKIP? Maybe some resignations?
Interesting times ahead.
EDIT:
A little about Cruddas, the man in question:
The Independent said:
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
The PM will probably get out of this fairly unscathed. I think for a PM to go, he/she either has to do something spectacularly bad, or be betrayed by the entire front bench. Gordon Brown survived several "Coups" and lots of bad press.
killer_clank
Member
None of these scandals bad as they are have gone to the heart of Cameron so far, but he seems to surround himself with so many terrible people that one of these days he'll get screwed by it. No doubt he'll manage to deflect the blame again, but if true that's totally shocking.
Also, new scandal name: Cash for Cameron
Also, new scandal name: Cash for Cameron
JonathanEx
Member
I think it'll be a dent to the PM but not huge. There was something about this last year for just £50k, wasn't there? He'll deflect "OH I didn't know although it blates involves me" ala the horse (and the police horse of hers, lol!!!!)
Love that name for it though and we'll have to make sure it takes off.
It seems Labour (well, Milibland) on the attack do awful. But Labour, doing nothing, do alright in the polls as Conservatives are often their own downfall.
But we are are Sun nation who are driven by our love for OUR BOYS who we must praise and not question anything military related because it might be seen as going against THA TROOPS even if it's not.
I don't think I've committed as much GB heresy since... oh, Friday, when I criticised Sport Relief's telly show this year.
Love that name for it though and we'll have to make sure it takes off.
It seems Labour (well, Milibland) on the attack do awful. But Labour, doing nothing, do alright in the polls as Conservatives are often their own downfall.
But we are are Sun nation who are driven by our love for OUR BOYS who we must praise and not question anything military related because it might be seen as going against THA TROOPS even if it's not.
I don't think I've committed as much GB heresy since... oh, Friday, when I criticised Sport Relief's telly show this year.
In the tape that the Sunday Times will release Cruddas implies that these meetings have an effect on government policy.
This is fucking huge. I'm not over-egging this for political reasons either, I'm actually of the mind that Cameron/Osborne are pretty good at their jobs, but this could take them down.
This is fucking huge. I'm not over-egging this for political reasons either, I'm actually of the mind that Cameron/Osborne are pretty good at their jobs, but this could take them down.
killer_clank
Member
Cameron will just fire him and claim he knew nothing, unlikely as that is. If more evidence comes out showing more of a link between these meetings and government policy then he'll be in a lot of trouble.
Man, would I love a general election right about now though...
JonathanEx
Member
Cameron's got a great track record for surrounding himself with morons which he knows nothing about what they do, doesn't he?
JonathanEx
Member
Worth a shot. Get us a few bottles from the Parliamentary Wine Cellar while you're there, won't you? Ta x
killer_clank
Member
Video's up on the BBC site:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17501618
Some of the quotes are pretty shocking.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17501618
Some of the quotes are pretty shocking.
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
My track record on distributing stuff from wine cellars is not good. The grand old Imperial Chemical Industries used to have a pretty good cellar until I scavenged it of several (plus a few) magnums of 1947 port. Unfortunately it was far too nice to waste on other people.
killer_clank
Member
I'm not sure on the legalities of all this stuff, they actually advertise on the tory website that big donors get to meet the PM, so presumably that's legal it's the dodgy quotes about influencing government policy that really gets me.
killer_clank
Member
shock.
pretty quick though, resigning within 2 hours
killer_clank
Member
true, probably signifying how serious it could turn out to be.
louis89
Member
I hope so. If parliament is going to send its citizens to fight a war in a foreign country I'd hope they'd honour them when they die. It's the least they can do.
But it's not honouring them, it's political grandstanding.
If they wanted to honour them they'd give the soldiers better body armour and equipment, not have 13 different MPs melodramatically naming all of the soldiers.
i guess they're hoping that if they do something quickly it wont turn into a festering wound on their reputation like the nhs bill did
i really hope they get pressed on this. i want heads to roll. i want the tory brand to be as toxic and i want the party to be as unelectable again as they were in 1997.
i really hope they get pressed on this. i want heads to roll. i want the tory brand to be as toxic and i want the party to be as unelectable again as they were in 1997.
It's a mark of respect, and compared to everything else that goes on in Parliament it's the least thing to get bothered about.
Also it keeps the human cost of war in the minds of the public and MP's, and hopefully speeds up getting our troops out of places they should have been out of a long time ago or never been sent there in the first place.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
I have been reliably informed that a third runway at Heathrow is now back on the agenda. The government are also serious about turning Manchester into a northern hub so that the UK has a major and minor hub like Germany (Frankfurt and Munich). They want BA to serve 75% of the destinations they do directly from Heathrow directly from Manchester as well and for that they are talking about planning permission for a brand new purpose built terminal building for business travellers with hotels and such like attached. The idea is that if it is built the capacity will be used.
Along with this, Air Passenger Duty is on the table as airports operators and airlines say that the extra economic benefits that come with extra air capacity can only be extracted properly if the UK offers a competitive tax regime for domestic/EU and international flights. Again, the idea is that removing APD while increasing capacity will be self-financing and extra economic growth will more than make up for the £3.2bn.
Along with this, Air Passenger Duty is on the table as airports operators and airlines say that the extra economic benefits that come with extra air capacity can only be extracted properly if the UK offers a competitive tax regime for domestic/EU and international flights. Again, the idea is that removing APD while increasing capacity will be self-financing and extra economic growth will more than make up for the £3.2bn.
J Tourettes
Banned
I can't say I'm surprised. The tories were only ever against it to try and get a few votes and appear 'green'.
I'm for it anyway, it's good to see some common sense prevailing, fuck the local residents that bought cheap houses under a flightpath.
I'm for it anyway, it's good to see some common sense prevailing, fuck the local residents that bought cheap houses under a flightpath.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Why would the government need the money? They just need to ensure planning permission is given. I would say in the case of Heathrow they will need to pay compensation to people who were promised no new runway, but otherwise the air travel industry will finance it. BAA are said to be ready with £8.5bn to build a new runway and rebuild terminal 4 while Virgin have halted £5bn worth of UK based investment basically in protest of the idiotic air policies and IAG (owners of BA) have indicated that they would be able to increase the number direct intercontinental destinations by 50-60 cities with a third runway and would invest heavily to make it happen. It would mean thousands of new jobs from pilots all the way to retail staff working in the airport, plus medium term architecture and construction work.
On the trains, you don't need to convince me. It won't happen though. There is new compelling research that suggests our trains would be limited to 186mph just like continental ones because sympathetic vibrations reducing the speed from a planned 220mph. That means the business case for HS2 is not nearly as compelling as before because journey times would not be cut by enough. An alternative to HS2 is being considered by the Department of Transport, they are looking at the tilting trains again and the upgrades that go with them, and further upgrading the Chilterns line from Marylebone to increase capacity from London to Birmingham on alternative routes rather than the West Coast Main Line.
I don't mind the idea of HS2, I just baulk at the cost. £34bn is too much money for too little gain, if the government could come up with a way for it to be built for half the cost, £17bn, I think there would be fewer objections. The projected cost for the government to bring in an extra runway and initial subsidies for Manchester Airport hubifying is less than £10bn. The economic growth that extra air capacity will bring to the UK as whole, especially if they aren't bullshitting about making Manchester into a proper secondary hub, is massive.
I'm always of the opinion that the more terminals, the better.
Would prefer Birmingham though as it's down the road.
louis89
Member
Wasn't the new transport secretary an anti-third runway campaigner?