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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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ThatCrazyGuy
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What was that Hawkeye infinite?
Man, even ChrisG does random Max Wesker at beginning of round. Stealing my top tier strats....
Man, even ChrisG does random Max Wesker at beginning of round. Stealing my top tier strats....
crimzonflame
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(H, QCF M) x
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
What was that Dorm cross up shit? Nobody was blocking really it seemed.
Dorm looks nasty.
Dorm looks nasty.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Why is Hawkeye dumb?
Burning Water
Neo Member
I dunno what happened between Vanilla and ultimate, but Dorm is ridiculous.
Oh, I don't think the start up (don't know how many frames) is invincible, yeah. You'll just have to evaluate the situation (countering Spell of Vishanti on reaction, for instance, not feasible). After it comes out, you'll just have to control it properly (H + direction). Some try the first hit, and if it doesn't work, then they try to fly away instead of trying to hit again just to be safer. Can't help more than that.
He probably saw that X factor loop and didn't realize that a ton of the cast has stupid shit like that. Hawkeye's loop Chris did wasn't even that good. Free damage sure, but didn't even kill him. Nova loops destroooooooy.
Hawkeye is the best zoner in this game. But he is still not top 5. He has weaknesses and the player playing Hawkeye still has to know what he's doing and use the appropriate arrow at the right time. Thing about Hawkeye is that you are already a bad match up against him if you don't have a teleport or a fast projectile, he bodies the air dashers pretty hard especially Doom and Iron Man.
I want ChrisG to use the st.M more. That button is godlike, it crushes low attacks. It's like a sword normal or some shit.
I want ChrisG to use the st.M more. That button is godlike, it crushes low attacks. It's like a sword normal or some shit.
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I know all that, my main issue is I still don't really know what I can punish and what I can't and having to think about it mid-match often slows down my reaction time on things I probably can punish. May just need some more experience with it, but when I connect I also don't really know how to follow up for more damage because I generally don't know where I will end up after the third hit. Having to press a button for each hit rather than just steering it thrice also makes it feel a tad more awkward than your average hyper. Should maybe try X-Factor canceling it into a hit confirm for a larger combo.
Which is weird since his win/ratio with Firebrand on his team is about as good. But I can certainly understand why, on his team Wesker on point rules thanks to triple arrow.
The problem with his team is that Firebrand doesn't fit well, he has no good assist aside triple arrow to get his game going. He needs a lock down assist to get his unblockable shenanigans going. ChrisG talked about this at WakeUp SRK.
I think Firebrand is a phenomenal character in UMVC3.
Then you know more about it than me. haha
What I said people don't use it properly was about watching some recent streams where people don't even try to use it to counter simple situations where they'd have a very high chance of succeeding (like the example I posted). Or maybe everyone already decided it is not worth it anyway (my opinion is of a scrub).
DR2K
Banned
Best zoning character with one of the best rush down tools in the game. It would be like giving Sim Geif like health.
If you are still salty about that slide... I don't know what to say. There are way worse things in the game than that. The slide is used for whiff punishing, not for rushing down with Hawkeye... you can't rushdown with it because it only leads into his unsafe launcher or his trick shot which doesn't lead into heavy damage itself.
Something like the best rushdown/point character having the best projectile in the game... which converts into touch of death combos while providing double cross up opportunities. Or a hyper that buffs up damage and speed permanently with no cost while randomly crossing up for 400K damage raw.
DR2K
Banned
It's dumb, broken, too good, and he shouldn't have it if he's designed to play keep away.
Yeah, but enough about Wesker.
Karsticles
Member
I don't get why people are all up in arms about Dormammu being "so good now" after seeing CJ's teleport mix-ups. Those are like day 1 Vanilla stuff.
On the note of Hawkeye, what really makes him crazy is being able to fire arrows with a normal. There's only one other character in this game who can fire projectiles with a normal, and there's a good reason for it - it's overpowered as hell, conceptually, to be able to call assists during a projectile attack.
On the note of Hawkeye, what really makes him crazy is being able to fire arrows with a normal. There's only one other character in this game who can fire projectiles with a normal, and there's a good reason for it - it's overpowered as hell, conceptually, to be able to call assists during a projectile attack.
"God's Beard!"
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ThatCrazyGuy
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Who's up in arms? Just giving props to CJ for a sick Dorm, blowing people up.
Some top EC players getting owned by day 1 stuff then, hehe.
I don't remember seeing him do that a lot on the streams in vanilla though (I think the 8 on break streams?). I remember him doing lots of tri-jumping based offense.
I stopped watching those though, so maybe he changed up.
Doesn't FChamp play with Dorm/Mags in his team? He should starting doing this shit against that Gonzo guy.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Actually glad I started doing some missions. Learned how to actually combo with Ryu's denjin mode now. Before I thought it was a waste of meter, but now that I can actually gain a full meter during the mode it's not a problem. My new Ryu bnb does 820-865k with 2 meters, but since you gain meter in denjin mode you only need to have 1 meter to start with. If I dhc with it it will do about 1 million damage. Also it looks boss.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
do you do the spinny kick with the lightning?
crimsonspider89
Banned
Damn, what I get for watching VGA for previews.
Gonna have to watch the archive later. Want to see some of Chris G's Hawkeye tricks.
OT: MGR is the new DMC. Platinum games is doing it. And it looked sweet.
Gonna have to watch the archive later. Want to see some of Chris G's Hawkeye tricks.
OT: MGR is the new DMC. Platinum games is doing it. And it looked sweet.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Not at the VGA trailer. The VGA trailer looked kickass. Unsure of the FPS.
So Chris G raped everybody? Huh. Who DIDN'T see that coming?
So Chris G raped everybody? Huh. Who DIDN'T see that coming?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yes. It's very pretty.
The combo I use isn't anything spectacular but it's very easy. I'm sure there are better combos out there that use denjin mode more effectively.
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DR2K
Banned
Eh, I've moved on to better things, definitely more of a party game now. You're right there are dumber things than the best zoning character getting great rush down tools, which is why no one should take this game seriously.
In the stream chat they asked everyone who was going to win, I said ChrisG.
That didn't mean I thought he was going to win because this is single elimination and at that the time it was thought to be 2/3... but I seriously think he's the best in New York.
I am genuinely happy for you.
On the record... I respect Noel Brown's play in UMVC3.
*Goes for more snap backs than any other player I have seen. Likes to kill anchor and team synergy.
*Knows how to decently play Frank West although he can be much better with him. Unless other Frank's he at least doesn't drop his LVL up combos.
*Doesn't play Dark Wesker, plays him at 2nd spot.
*Plays a legit Wolverine, knows the Fatal Claw loop, IOs consistently and has upgraded his mix ups. I still think PR has the better Wolverine.
crimsonspider89
Banned
I don't knock Noel for using low execution teams. He does good with them. Glad he is starting to prove that he isn't a fraud.
Use what you are good with. If you can't use high execution chars, play the hell out of low execution chars and play smart.
Use what you are good with. If you can't use high execution chars, play the hell out of low execution chars and play smart.
Damn impresive. Congrats
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Yes Platinum is making it - but is Kamiya involved? He made DMC...DMC. And Bayonetta...Bayonetta.
crimsonspider89
Banned
I think he is a good one due to how many damn projectiles he fires off and random grab equals to TOD with XF3.
So yeah, I think he is a good anchor.
So yeah, I think he is a good anchor.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Interestingly enough a simply labeled "win percentage" would have been a lot more simpler, easier, and more useful stat. They may have had a stat which may or may not have essentially been the same thing as a win percentage, but shit if I noticed it.
But, credit for to Sp00ky for trying to flesh things out further. But there is no need for baseball sabremetrics, just keep it simple
I don't understand those stats at all.
What's offense? How many point characters the person has killed? And defense is how many he has lost or something?
He only loses to a handful of anchors like Wesker (because once Wesker is teleporting around and Hawkeye has no meter, he is toast). Other than that, Hawkeye has solid enough match ups to win against characters and that air throw game allows him to get throws because the opponent is way too scared to press buttons against Hawkeye. They whiff something he can do an arrow loop, slide into death or Gimlet. He is also pretty good at cock blocking other anchors from making come backs.
Viscant pretty much announced that if the opposite team has Hawkeye down the order he isn't playing his Phoenix team.
What's offense? How many point characters the person has killed? And defense is how many he has lost or something?
IMO because he isn't a rushdown/mix up character he doesn't get enough credit for being a good anchor.
He only loses to a handful of anchors like Wesker (because once Wesker is teleporting around and Hawkeye has no meter, he is toast). Other than that, Hawkeye has solid enough match ups to win against characters and that air throw game allows him to get throws because the opponent is way too scared to press buttons against Hawkeye. They whiff something he can do an arrow loop, slide into death or Gimlet. He is also pretty good at cock blocking other anchors from making come backs.
Viscant pretty much announced that if the opposite team has Hawkeye down the order he isn't playing his Phoenix team.
I laughed pretty hard at him being the wildcard.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Viscant thinks Hawkeye is top five as well.
I think the hated and unhyped archer in purple is showing why he makes any team better.
I think the hated and unhyped archer in purple is showing why he makes any team better.
Professor Beef
Banned
It's not brash if you can back it up.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Funny shit is all his quotes that depict him as an ass will be used to describe him if he makes it to the top five.
WILL. BE. FUNNY.
When Hawkeye wins, the commentators need to say one of his win quotes.
WILL. BE. FUNNY.
When Hawkeye wins, the commentators need to say one of his win quotes.
GotchaForce
Member
It looked like ChrisG had him in an infinite towards the end. Why did he stop, because he had to or honor?
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