MvC3 isn't an arcade port, but Japan didn't get the memo.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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Professor Beef
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The combat was glorious, probably the best in any Spider-Man game up to that point. Too bad the rest of the game was a heaping pile of shit.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
That there's no offline vs mode is understandable within the context that the Japanese teams NEVER put local profile support in fighting game offline versus modes - not just Capcom, almost nobody. Namco, Arc System Works, whoever. Local versus just logs in P1, they even get achievements, and P2 is a guest / anonymous.
The only fighting game of the last few years that has profile support and even a proper multiplayer profile login screen is Third Strike Online, which was produced by a western designer. It's telling that only 3SO also has full replay recording for local, offline matches too. There's a big perceptual hole in the way Japanese teams approach these games.
The terribly inexcusable thing tho is that H&H is totally anti-social *online* as well, with no non-ranked player invites or battle rooms - THAT is a feature they already had code for, complete with spectator support now! The only reason I can imagine it's not there, is complete refusal by the designers (not suits) to see H&H as anything other than an online campaign mode where you fight randoms from the other faction for the global metagame.
I would be shocked if Seth Killian NEVER, ever, mentioned to anyone in the pipeline that players were going to want to play ability card matches with friends, and unranked, as well as official matches. If it never occurred to Seth either, holy crap, for shame on you Mr. Killian. Somebody in the chain of command should have known better than this.
The only fighting game of the last few years that has profile support and even a proper multiplayer profile login screen is Third Strike Online, which was produced by a western designer. It's telling that only 3SO also has full replay recording for local, offline matches too. There's a big perceptual hole in the way Japanese teams approach these games.
The terribly inexcusable thing tho is that H&H is totally anti-social *online* as well, with no non-ranked player invites or battle rooms - THAT is a feature they already had code for, complete with spectator support now! The only reason I can imagine it's not there, is complete refusal by the designers (not suits) to see H&H as anything other than an online campaign mode where you fight randoms from the other faction for the global metagame.
I would be shocked if Seth Killian NEVER, ever, mentioned to anyone in the pipeline that players were going to want to play ability card matches with friends, and unranked, as well as official matches. If it never occurred to Seth either, holy crap, for shame on you Mr. Killian. Somebody in the chain of command should have known better than this.
There's only 2 anti-chip card I believe.
Anyone figure out what the Lady card does?
I was right in one more thing with the patch.. Hulk's infinite is patched. Tried doing it and no go. Is this a confirmed change?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
This thread got so salty
First thought I had when hearing about H&H was, "Holy shit! This sounds like an awesome and hilarious mode to play against my friends with!"
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Deleted member 13876
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Exactly. I don't really care for playing this mode against randoms but would love to dick around with friends in this.
SolarPowered
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That was nearly ten years ago, bro.
I'm gonna be absorbed in other stuff next year too and steam sales are gonna be INSAAAAAAAAANE this week so I won't be around that much either.
See you on the flipside.
I remember accidentally swallowing a bit of sea water at a beach in the Dominican Republic called Palence that is known for being mad salty. This goes beyond that experience for sure lol.
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Deleted member 13876
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I kinda liked that game, at least up until the point where everything goes to shit because the engine can't handle all the enemies that are spawning.
Oh and I already had Phoenix Wright in the lowest tier in the game (right there with Hsien Ko). Unless there are some shadow buffs to Wright that I don't know about... Wright is officially forever alone in his own tier of "F" named "FREENIX TIER".
The tier list is essentially SABC F. Like there are two gaps in the tier list to show you the difference in quality of the worst character and the next worst character which is probably Hsien Ko who is firmly in C tier.
The tier list is essentially SABC F. Like there are two gaps in the tier list to show you the difference in quality of the worst character and the next worst character which is probably Hsien Ko who is firmly in C tier.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Whilst I agree the assist was the only thing Phoenix had going for him it was also way more broken than anything any other character in the game can do. I'm not surprised it was nerfed ahead of characters who are seen as too powerful in the first month.
Gunstarheroes
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What happened in this thread is proof Capcom has no fucking idea what to do with this game series.
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Deleted member 13876
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Faster Maya startup. That's it, as far as I know. Don't really care, never ever planned to go near Phoenix, but I feel for those that did have the ambition to main him.
Nose Master
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What a god damn joke. Make Megaman a Vita exclusive, Capcom. Finish this.
Yeah and it's not really useful since he can still be grabbed out of it or get blown up by teleports. :/
Okay, Professor X is officially a waste of a card spot. Same "rare" cards over and over again
Confirmed, not that I ever took it seriously or knew anyone who did
sixteen-bit
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Team DMC!
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
No, it's this kind of Capcom troll that's pure hyperbole. The reason why people are upset is BECAUSE the game is this >--< close to greatness (unless you're DR2K) and they did a hell of a lot of things right with it.
The problem with Capcom isn't that they're incompetent, but they're inconsistent. They tend to stop just short of adding every feature needed or polishing every rough edge, and don't seem aware that with just a tiny bit more effort they would have been golden.
So people get frustrated that they must keep complaining about that one little thing that is keeping the game from reaching its full potential.
Seriously.
As someone who plays Wright, he needed those assists nerfed. That shit is way beyond cheap to be able to stop anything at will, by a character who will not receive any damage. Having a joke character that strong was really silly to me.
I don't even think Wesker is all that bad either. Top tier for sure, not an instant win button.
JeTmAn81
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Lol, the guy he plays is for serious for real. I bet he was only dropping combos because of the Vita controls.
JeTmAn81
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As a Wright player, how much trouble do you have with teleporters? I've played some Wrights where I'm right on top of them with my Dante but they always have Maya up and never seem to get hit, even from behind.
That's being saved for UMVC3 Wii U edition.
And yeah the "find better rare cards" card are a joke. Fuck your Professor X!!!!
Yeah I agree he should have had them nerfed but to lose all invincibility was a bit much (and even then people figured out that you could hit him from behind). I was hoping for hyper armor. :/
And yeah, as a Wright player I get blown up by teleporters often. Especially Vergil. Dante's pretty easy to avoid since his teleports go in the same place.
A bunch. Though with teleporters they can be really predictable, so stay mid screen, wait and punish. You don't have to get all the evidence as soon as possible. I never look for evidence unless an assist hits. Or if I got 2 bars I can THC with Dante then look for evidence while they are in block stun.
Well, I haven't played it yet post patch so I dunno how terrible it is. Does it act the same way as the assist before turnabout mode? I agree that it should have been Hsien-Ko like. Fully invincible, but still takes damage.
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This sums it up best. It's like they made the best Pizza Hawaii and they're proudly announcing a new crust for their pizza which you're very excited for (work with me here) only to find out the new crust only comes with the plain margherita pizzas. They already have the damn pineapple and since their Hawaii is the best selling pizza you're scratching your head why they just can't include those toppings, but they adamantly refuse.
Maybe not the best analogy but hey you get where I'm going with this. I really love the game, but it would be so easy to make it quite a bit better, but the guy in the kitchen won't deviate from his way of cooking.
Soki/Green Goblin/Cyber Blue
Ground attack boost, air attack boost, overall attack boost after KOing their first character, extra armor, triple jump.
Neutralize
...night
Ground attack boost, air attack boost, overall attack boost after KOing their first character, extra armor, triple jump.
Neutralize
monday night is "party all night" night
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corrosivefrost
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Offline H&H would have to be tweaked so that you don't get cards per battle or something. Much the same way there is no versus CPU option, because it didn't make sense to the design team, they probably said "well, they can do it in training mode if they really want to, problem solved."
DR2K
Banned
My bet is they're going to be selling cards as DLC.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
What is your tier list, Dahbomb?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Added 3 wins to the heralds side online, then spent about 2 hours grinding away in the campaign. Hawkeye+Taskmaster makes it as predictably easy as I thought it would be, so I'm using nothing but cards that increase the frequency of rare cards since the AI doesn't put up a fight at all. Over 40% collected so far.
Is there any benefit to clearing multiple rows on a hit list at the same time (other than the specific title unlocks for doing exactly that)? Just wondering whether I should be trying to clear out hit lists as fast as possible or putting them off until I can score multiple lines at the same time.
Is there any benefit to clearing multiple rows on a hit list at the same time (other than the specific title unlocks for doing exactly that)? Just wondering whether I should be trying to clear out hit lists as fast as possible or putting them off until I can score multiple lines at the same time.
How difficult could it possibly be to allow 2 players to pick 3 cards each out of those that have been unlocked on that game save?
They fixed a very broken thing (invincible assist)
unfortunately, it was the only good thing about Wright in the internet's opinion
SephirothRK
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He is now hittable when he fully powered up as an assist.
Professor Beef
Banned
Probably about as difficult as it would be to ask the SFxT devs how they are doing nearly the exact same thing as you described.
Didn't that assist take even more work than Golden Hsien-Ko to get going?
Professor Beef
Banned
To a logical person, yes. But to Capcom HELL NO BECAUSE HSIEN-KO HAS TO USE A METER AND WRIGHT DOESN'T SO WE GOTTA NERF THAT SHIT.*
*I can neither confirm nor deny that this is their reason.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Damn I am so salty about that. That was seriously he's best/only redeeming quality. Honestly his Turnabout Mode isn't that amazing since it's so short. The only thing someone has to do is hold block and you can't really do shit in Turnabout.
... As it stands now Phoenix is best played in Investigation Mode where you can use Maya for schenigans. If you manage to catch someone in a combo your best bet is to finish the combo with the Judge Hyper.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
I hope offline H&H picks up. The AI is stupid ass easy. They just stand there like the AI on Very Hard and get hit all day by Firebrand's Unblockable.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Hsien's assist could easily be blown up by beam hypers and moves like Bionic arm though.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Not hard but then you get to card numbers which makes it a race to pick your characters first typically. And then if the number 1 player doesn't have all the cards unlocked.....
So that is the issue.
A way to fix it would to give HnH its own interface where each player could make an username to use there respective decks and save it.
But then takes more data space. But would allow the person to transfer it over to a jump drive so they can take there cards and data with them.
EDIT: Hsien Ko takes damage, Wright o did not.
So that is the issue.
A way to fix it would to give HnH its own interface where each player could make an username to use there respective decks and save it.
But then takes more data space. But would allow the person to transfer it over to a jump drive so they can take there cards and data with them.
EDIT: Hsien Ko takes damage, Wright o did not.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Has anyone found out yet what happens if you capture all territories 100% in offline H&H? Do they reset to 0% for another go round?
DR2K
Banned
High level players must have had some sort of gentlemen's agreement not to use it.
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