"God's Beard!"
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Man, I'd play Street Fighter if I felt like not jumping.
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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT| of 9 Years Urley
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I played a good Zero in player matches just now... I'd rather face a team of Wesker/Wesker/Wesker with permanent XF4 than face one competent Zero. So much salt. So much...
@God's Beard: try Dante. He's got arguably the best flight in the game if you want to spend a meter for it.
The guy actually ran Dark Wesker on anchor, and getting down to him was a relief since it meant Zero was dead. I have no problems laming Dark Wesker out with Dante. It's actually rather easy.
@God's Beard: try Dante. He's got arguably the best flight in the game if you want to spend a meter for it.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The AI just teched my command throw 3 times in a row. What the fuck.
Really hoping that's just more H&H silliness and not something that's actually possible.
Really hoping that's just more H&H silliness and not something that's actually possible.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
My execution isn't great, but I don't think I screwed it up 3 times in a row.
If anyone's curious, here's where you can find the S-rank cards that are tied to specific stages:
any bonus stage - Blodia
Demon Village (Heroes) - Mega Man
Asgard (Heroes) - Fantastic Four
Demon Village Redux (Heralds) - Astaroth
Asgard: Sea of Space (Heralds) - Myria
Fate of the Earth - Fin Fang Foom (seemingly more common on Heroes side), Thanos (seemingly more common on Heralds side)
The Watcher seems to be given out in online matches.
If anyone's curious, here's where you can find the S-rank cards that are tied to specific stages:
any bonus stage - Blodia
Demon Village (Heroes) - Mega Man
Asgard (Heroes) - Fantastic Four
Demon Village Redux (Heralds) - Astaroth
Asgard: Sea of Space (Heralds) - Myria
Fate of the Earth - Fin Fang Foom (seemingly more common on Heroes side), Thanos (seemingly more common on Heralds side)
The Watcher seems to be given out in online matches.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Nope. I'm also trying to farm multiples of The Watcher for the time being, but winning online with nothing but Prof X cards is a little difficult. I did receive the card I wanted after the only match I've won so far though, so that's a good sign.
Reposting GAF H&H sign-ups for a new day:
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MarvelGAF Heroes & Heralds - Week of December 25th
GAF Username System Gamertag Faction Location Availability
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Sixfortyfive 360 Sixfortyfive Heroes USA/AL after 7PM ET
Oldschoolgamer 360 OldschoolgamerZ Heroes USA/MD after 7PM ET
rs4- 360 dokterrhouse Heroes CAN/Tor anytime
shaowebb 360 Dynasty Penguin Heroes USA/WV 10PM - 1AM ET
The Abominable Snowman 360 vagabond01 Heralds USA/VA after 8PM ET
Professor Beef PS3 ProfessorBeef Heroes USA/CA anytime
ihearthawthats PS3 ihearthawthats Heroes CAN/ON after 9PM ET
Degen PS3 Dragon17013 Heralds USA/PA after 10PM ET
Karsticles PS3 Karsticles Heralds USA/IL variousKarsticles
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No news on either. Serpent sucks though, so it's not like you're missing out there.
Morrigan has the best flight mode in the game. And I thought you hated Iron Fist because he looks like a salsa dancer?
OOooo, thank you! I still need F4 and Astaroth.
You can get any card online (AFAIK); he's talking about offline.I swear I got Fin Fang online, but my memory is hazy
Serpent is pure counter pick card. If there was ever a local mode for H&H and it was being played at side tournaments.... Serpent would be banned because then he would just look at your cards put Serpent in the slot of where the other guy has their S tier card and then pack the rest of the cards with shit cards like that Steve Chapman cards which disables block. You would win automatically.
There are some cards in H&H that are built around the online play structure in mind.
There are some cards in H&H that are built around the online play structure in mind.
Karsticles
Member
Who do you all think really gains something from having a full 6-hit series?
"God's Beard!"
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I do! It doesn't help that his playstyle is boring though.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
That's strange, whenever the ai doesn't want me to land a command grab they'll just jump.
Can't unsee.
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah, AI techs my Wesker command grabs a lot.
ihearthawthats
Banned
storm has a pretty good flight as well and of course mags.
no one. maybe hulk or nemesis for armored frame traps, but certainly not worth dedicating a card to. thor would be able to setup cr.h/cr.h~mighty hurricane kara cancel mixup off any of his normals, but none of his normals are particularly great in the first place.
Yeah the heavies are the only characters that came to my mind. Especially Sentinel if he can do something like st.M into cr.M or vice versa. In fact now that I think about being able to chain his mediums would be beneficial to Sentinel. But I would never waste a card on that ability... I would much rather give him faster aerial movement or armor in the air. Hell even air dash on Sentinel is bad ass with the frying pan cross up.
"God's Beard!"
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Sentinel and MODOK have the best flight modes to me because they actually play like the flight characters in earlier Marvel games. Morrigan and Dante, as far as I can tell, aren't playing footsies in the air so much as dropping lasers from full screen.
ihearthawthats
Banned
air footsies is fun, but nothing is as fun as 8-way-air-wave-dashing to make it look like your character is on crack.
shaowebb
Member
I've got Captain Commando. I got it outta Asgard on Heroes side.
EDIT: Oh shit...I may have been using Prof X that run though so it might not be linked to anything in particular. I've off and on ran Prof X or a deck with two missile's in it to farm. Either way it was heroes side though.
If it wasn't limiting to H&H it would be make characters like
Zero, Spencer, Vergil, Ryu, Nova even better than they already are IMO. Some characters don't really need it of course, and some that do are still bad (Iron Man).
ViewtifulJC
Banned
UMvC3 New Year's Resolutions, stolen from SRK:
-Suck ass less
-Learn to block more
-Suck ass less
-Learn to block more
ihearthawthats
Banned
-master hsien-ko. i ignored her in vanilla, but i think its bout time i give her a more serious effort.
This is relevant to my interests. Thank you for posting this.
Also I got Silver Surfer on The Hand Hideout (Heroes), if that means anything.
"God's Beard!"
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Any other Wesker players on GAF? I need help improving this setup:
Wesker/Captain America/Spencer
Glasses On:
LMH xx Cobra Strike, dash, Low Shot, 2MH xx Cobra Strike, dash, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), S sjc Phantom Dance, Snap Back
~620k, but they'll get a lot back from red health
On incoming character(Glasses Off):
Option select j6H :
Jump loop:
jH xx j2H, jH xx j2H, jH xx j2H, MHS, jMHS, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), reset
~585k
Air Throw combo:
Low Shot, 2MH xx Cobra Strike, Low Shot, A1(Charging Star), Ghost Butterfly, dash, 2HS, jMHS, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), reset
~400k
If they block/tech/pushblock, call A1(Charging Star) then crossup/fake crossup with dash/teleport L/H depending on distance:
A1(Charging Star), MH xx Cobra Strike, Low Shot, MH xx Ghost Butterfly, dash, 2HS, jMMHS, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), reset
~510k
reset
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover H xx:
Teleport H, jS, 2H xx Cobra Strike xx Teleport L, Low Shot, 2H xx Low Shot, 2HS, jH, jS, A2, Low Shot, Ghost Butterfly, dash back, 2HS, jHS, A1, Low Shot, S, jS, Air Teleport H, Low Shot
~800k
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover(against light characters) H xx:
Teleport H, jS, 2H xx Cobra Strike xx Teleport L, Low Shot, 2HS, jH, jS, A2, Low Shot, Ghost Butterfly, dash back, 2HS, jHS, A1, Low Shot, S, jS, Air Teleport H, Low Shot
~720k
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover(against people who try to mash tech or hold up back or whatever):
L*MH xx Cobra Strike, blah blah blah
~600-800k *-stealth reset, they won't realize that the combo even ended aka "The Filipino Champ"
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover(against people who like to block) L, ... :
any command grab, blah blah blah
~500-600k
Anyway, this is what I have right now, let me know if I'm missing anything or can add a 3rd layer to any of these with my team. Generally speaking, two layers has been pretty good odds for me and I get 2-3 free meters per character kill after the snap back that I can save for Captain America and Spencer for those reaction hypers. I need to play more teams to work on this, though, it's still heavily in progress.
The biggest problem I have with this specific setup is that I only get the 2M into snap back after the hyper like 1/5 times. Is there a trick to making it more consistent? Phantom Dance is pretty hard to predict, even in the corner. I've had better luck just using Phantom Dance to kill after a reset like most people, but I feel like I'm giving away too many chances. There isn't enough time to hyper after a snap back, either.
By the way, is guard breaking still in the game?
edit: Man, I'm stupid. I just did the snapback raw instead of the 2M to confirm. Works most of the time, but sometimes big characters spin out of the corner during Phantom Dance. Fixed. Anyway, is this new tech? I don't think I've seen anyone use it in a tournament.
edit 2: holy shit I never noticed that his level 3 does 672,000 damage in lvl 1 xfactor and glasses off. GODDAMN
Wesker/Captain America/Spencer
Glasses On:
LMH xx Cobra Strike, dash, Low Shot, 2MH xx Cobra Strike, dash, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), S sjc Phantom Dance, Snap Back
~620k, but they'll get a lot back from red health
On incoming character(Glasses Off):
Option select j6H :
Jump loop:
jH xx j2H, jH xx j2H, jH xx j2H, MHS, jMHS, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), reset
~585k
Air Throw combo:
Low Shot, 2MH xx Cobra Strike, Low Shot, A1(Charging Star), Ghost Butterfly, dash, 2HS, jMHS, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), reset
~400k
If they block/tech/pushblock, call A1(Charging Star) then crossup/fake crossup with dash/teleport L/H depending on distance:
A1(Charging Star), MH xx Cobra Strike, Low Shot, MH xx Ghost Butterfly, dash, 2HS, jMMHS, Low Shot, A2(Slant Shot), reset
~510k
reset
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover H xx:
Teleport H, jS, 2H xx Cobra Strike xx Teleport L, Low Shot, 2H xx Low Shot, 2HS, jH, jS, A2, Low Shot, Ghost Butterfly, dash back, 2HS, jHS, A1, Low Shot, S, jS, Air Teleport H, Low Shot
~800k
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover(against light characters) H xx:
Teleport H, jS, 2H xx Cobra Strike xx Teleport L, Low Shot, 2HS, jH, jS, A2, Low Shot, Ghost Butterfly, dash back, 2HS, jHS, A1, Low Shot, S, jS, Air Teleport H, Low Shot
~720k
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover(against people who try to mash tech or hold up back or whatever):
L*MH xx Cobra Strike, blah blah blah
~600-800k *-stealth reset, they won't realize that the combo even ended aka "The Filipino Champ"
after Slant Shot grounds them but before they recover(against people who like to block) L, ... :
any command grab, blah blah blah
~500-600k
Anyway, this is what I have right now, let me know if I'm missing anything or can add a 3rd layer to any of these with my team. Generally speaking, two layers has been pretty good odds for me and I get 2-3 free meters per character kill after the snap back that I can save for Captain America and Spencer for those reaction hypers. I need to play more teams to work on this, though, it's still heavily in progress.
The biggest problem I have with this specific setup is that I only get the 2M into snap back after the hyper like 1/5 times. Is there a trick to making it more consistent? Phantom Dance is pretty hard to predict, even in the corner. I've had better luck just using Phantom Dance to kill after a reset like most people, but I feel like I'm giving away too many chances. There isn't enough time to hyper after a snap back, either.
By the way, is guard breaking still in the game?
edit: Man, I'm stupid. I just did the snapback raw instead of the 2M to confirm. Works most of the time, but sometimes big characters spin out of the corner during Phantom Dance. Fixed. Anyway, is this new tech? I don't think I've seen anyone use it in a tournament.
edit 2: holy shit I never noticed that his level 3 does 672,000 damage in lvl 1 xfactor and glasses off. GODDAMN
I was about to say... lol.
Here's another reset you can add to the Slant Shot reset blender. Instead of letting it ground them, hit them with an L while they're still in the air and they'll tech in the perfect spot to airthrow/jump-loop/teleport-mixup them. It also allows you to switch things up from air resets and ground resets. I used to run Wesker/Deadpool/Spencer for a time, and I had a lot of dirty stuff with Slant Shot assist...
Also, after the snapback you can dash back, call Spencer, and then teleport/fake-teleport to snatch them out of the air if you wanted to. I used to do it a fair amount when I ran the team. It is a bit obvious straight on the ground, but the way I did it was by TK'ing the teleports. I could go forward, or go straight down and they'd have to guess which I was going for. If they guessed wrong, it was a free combo/mixup for me.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Ah yeah, I have all the normal Viscant resets too. Teleport one is the kind Justin used to use with Akuma, right? TK H teleport is awesome in general. Wesker has so many mixups. He's beautiful. The main reason I don't use the second one so much is because I don't think there's a lot of great follow ups if they escape it. It's good to confuse them once in a while, for sure.
Depends. If they block it, you can instantly go for a command grab. A TK H teleport will allow for an immediate command grab. You won't get much off a TK L teleport(probably get punished, to be honest), but if you go for a grounded L teleport, you'll be able to get a command grab as well. It can definitely catch people off guard.
Honestly, I'm thankful I mained Wesker for a while. I know all the possible setups with him that I hardly get opened up by him, lol.
Burning Water
Neo Member
Frankie G did the first part of that at SCR. Round Trip, raw tag to Wesker.
Any suggestions for a Hawkeye/Ryu/Dante team?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Don't know a ton about Dante but I'd switch the order up. Dante/Ryu/Hawkeye.
Could always look up Chris G's vids on how he uses Ryu's tatsu assist with Hawkeye, ends up being great for hit confirming into combo's.
- work on my zero and haggar
-improve my hawkeye
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I'm going to play team armor against you.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't know man. My record against Degen is pretty much in my favor.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
You know the best thing about this game vs Vanilla?
Random Stage Select being the default option. It always bugged how most of the hype ass matches in Vanilla were on that boring ass green and black training stage.
Random Stage Select being the default option. It always bugged how most of the hype ass matches in Vanilla were on that boring ass green and black training stage.
Professor Beef
Banned
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I need to play Ultimoo. Haven't beaten him yet.
Professor Beef
Banned
You should've played him before the patch so you could neutralize his entire gameplan. Now it'll be impossible.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I just got a trophy. "Training in Isolation."
Considering that I almost never go back to the main menu so that the game can update, that's pretty nice. Probably all from H&H mode.
Considering that I almost never go back to the main menu so that the game can update, that's pretty nice. Probably all from H&H mode.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Oh yeah everyone says he mashes H. Maybe we should call him
Professor Beef
Banned
I bet he loves H&H mode.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Burning Water
Neo Member
I thought about making that an alternate order.
Already on it =p
I'm clueless as to which assist to use for Dante. They all seem kinda good with Crystal being the least of three.
With Chris I would probably go with Jam Session, it's a great assist.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Played Team Armor in training mode for 10 minutes. I'm using this team (just for Degen)
Currently trying to learn Zero and I'm having a hard time doing the OTG H Dive > Buster L3 > Raikousen L thing. After the Buster I'll usually come out with the Dive feint, random air normals, or a late Raikousen, but the first two come out most often. Any tips for when to do the dp motion for the Raikousen?
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