Karsticles
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I just watched XF3 Vergil chew through a whole team that superjumped on reaction to Spiral Swords and still got mixed up on the landing. I don't find your arguments to be validated in actual tournament play.The whiff normals comes into play at ranges within st.H when you are pressurized by fast characters. And the better Vergil players utilize DT more in the neutral especially players like Omniscythe. In some ways DT is better and amplifies his anchor capabilities even further plus making his assists better. He can go at least 5/5 with any characters while in DT mode. When you mess something up you go into DT instead of SS because DT lasts way longer. SS is for combos and lockdown/mix ups and DT is for neutral game dominance and superior rushdown.
And there is definitely reason to use the other swords formation now that tech has been developed. The Blistering sword gives Vergil a legit instant overhead as used by Dacidbro at Norcal Knockouts. Plus it gives you LONGER lock down than Spiral Swords if you space out the swords correctly.... the problem is that people don't know how to use it but it's a tool even more powerful than Spiral Swords. Japanese players have begun to use it more and are profiting from it. No need to talk about Storm Swords, it's a situational but very strong tool in the 1 on 1 battle that basically "check mates" Phoenix as Viscant put it.
I always talk about whole characters. I don't care about DT Vergil because, in your own words, "no mixups". He can air dash toward me all day if he wants.So now we are talking about XF3 Vergil with meter. If you nerf Spiral Swords to 2 meter, then people will just turn on DT and basically achieve damage/speed above Dark Wesker level.
I think that 3 bars of meter for a utility hyper is probably just a bad idea in general. It's difficult to justify spending it on utility in most cases. Strider's is the most solid though, I wouldn't put it anywhere near how terrible Firebrand's is (for 3 bars that is).I think Ouroborus is underpowered at LVL3 just like Jill's LVL3 and Firebrand's LVL3. These should be LVL2 or made better. For the record I do think Spiral Sword is too good but not in the ways that you think it is. Similarly I think EX Seismo is busted, I mean what other hyper covers that much portion of the screen, has insane invincibility, is +30 on block or something and leads into a full TOD? I also think Sogenmu is busted as well but that's more like the character the hyper is attached to than the hyper itself.