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Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 |OT4| Nothing Stops This Patch!
- Thread starter enzo_gt
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YESSSSSSS. More Peter Parker please.
Well that's absurd.
800K meterless damage? That's kinda nuts.
We were already on the fence about Spider Man getting a nerf on his damage a bit but I said that he mostly gets that type of damage with assist (particularly Hidden Missiles). Seems like he can high damage solo as well although not that easy to do.
Karsticles
Member
I vote "Y" on the new Nemesis.
I would love to see this in a tournament, haha.
I wouldn't mind a drop in his Web Throw damage or something.
Karsticles
Member
Agreed. Goddamn those are boring to watch. I couldn't even stand playing Spider-man if I had to do them.
IIRC, web throw doesn't affect hit stun the way normal attacks do. It doesn't kick in while they're airborne from the throw or something like that.
Karsticles
Member
Probably because it's a cinematic animation, like cinematic hypers not affecting HSD.
I know that, I am saying that it should.
Essentially hit stun works like a timer. If you use a Web Throw that timer either should not freeze or it ticks down faster that normal if you use the move.
Haha GOD DAMN.
Spider-Man for secret top tier.
I'm pretty sure HSD is entirely timer-based, and the timer freezes during all cinematic attacks.
That is EXACTLY what I am saying. I am saying that Web Throw shouldn't do that... as in it should not freeze the timer of hit stun.
This is so fucking hype
8 loop long Web Throw combo then
biosnake20
Member
That Spidey combo looks pretty difficult to do.
People used to say that about lightning loop and doom infinite too.
biosnake20
Member
Your right. Only time will tell if it's reliable in tourney.
I'm reading through the previous page and you guys missed out on how Magneto pretty much gets to instantly block if he cancels any of his airdashes (besides the up ones) into magnetic blast.
I literally can just do addf plink mag blast while calling plasma beam assist and 3/4 of the cast can't deal with that.
I literally can just do addf plink mag blast while calling plasma beam assist and 3/4 of the cast can't deal with that.
We can't really make a change on that without gimping the character. Yeah I know that is really powerful of a strat but I think the real problem with the move is simply the recovery and block stun. We can't tinker with recovery either because it will mess up his swag combos so we have to settle with lowering the block stun.
Professor Beef
Banned
PSN wanna play?
Killa Sasa
Member
SEE YA L8TERRRR
The only hype thing about it is that it's basically a throwback to Maximum Carnage web grab infinite, haha. Was wondering if it was possible, since some have been ending with a web throw to midscreen then plink/wave dashing over for a reset or snap back.
On the real, web throw combos are sword-guy levels of boring after the first few times. Hawkeye combos (woo) or Iron Guy (Fist/Man) look prettay good. Jillian too.
The only hype thing about it is that it's basically a throwback to Maximum Carnage web grab infinite, haha. Was wondering if it was possible, since some have been ending with a web throw to midscreen then plink/wave dashing over for a reset or snap back.
On the real, web throw combos are sword-guy levels of boring after the first few times. Hawkeye combos (woo) or Iron Guy (Fist/Man) look prettay good. Jillian too.
I say LET IT ROCK BOYS, THIS IS MAHVEL BABY!!!
Wesker/Sent/Vergil is pretty damn fun.
Played some dude who used Mags with Jam Session and holy shit can Mags go in with that shit, Magnetic Blasts for days. I wish I could easily do Mag blast inputs, I'd main Mags in a heartbeat if I could do them fast as fuck :/
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Has a patch been announced?
First time seeing this. Hot damn. :lol
Professor Beef
Banned
Take a wild guess.
Only in our dreams.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
I'm always happy to see spider man do well, the character deserves it.
Huw_Dawson
Member
Yo Spiderman.
Strongly tempted to pick Spidey up now.
Strongly tempted to pick Spidey up now.
Karsticles
Member
I was reflecting on this yesterday. I booted the game up and saw 2011. Man. I still suck way too much to have played this game for that long.
I know this feeling all too well.
Karsticles
Member
Then again, I will go to my BIL's place and watch him fail to Hadoken 10-15 times in a row. It could be worse!
True. Does he tell you to stop cheating/stop being cheap? Some of my friends still get mad over that sort of stuff.
I wish we had replays in vanilla. I'd love to have footage showing just how bad I was then!
I barely used Felicia in vanilla, mostly because I was mad that she didn't have her sand splash hyper from mvc2 lol
And OTG assists were AMAZING!! Hahaha
I think my day one vanilla team was Spencer/Haggar/Akuma. And I don't really play any of them much now.
The Akuma health nerf in ultimate was really uncalled for. I'd play him on point if he still had 850K
MiniBossBattle
Member
Watching that Spiderman combo makes be realize how poor my movement is. Should be plink dashing instead of wave dashing?
It depends on the moment. Wave dashing and different kinds of plinking all have their place.
Speaking of plinking. What kinds of button setups do you all use for plinking?
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Wow, it's crazy it's been out that long. Guess I didn't really notice since I just started playing it at the end of last year. I hated vanilla so much that I didn't give Ultimate much of a chance when I bought it at release. Waited over a year to actually start playing it.
MiniBossBattle
Member
Max talks about plinking but calls it wavedashing.
I pull a direction, dash(two attack buttons L+M) then down-dash down-dash-down.
He suggests pull a direction and hit H then L+M immediately after then H-L+M, H-L+M for characters like Stider, Wesker, Iron Fist and Nemesis lol.
kevo_huevo
Member
I don't like Max's tutorial/method, but I'm sure it works for others.
For me, it's easier to plink dash as if I was plinking fierce punch in street fighter (H~M), and you get the throw tech option select on backdash.
To add, his j.S has no hitbox up top even though it should by its animation. It shouldn't be j.B good, but an increase would be nice.
Right now, Nemesis has no good slot position on a team. On point he can work as a battery, but he gets mauled at the start of matches. It's funny how Nem and Hulk are both heavies, but Hulk is feared while Nemesis is free at match start. Second isn't a good slot cause his DHC scales extremely hard and he is worthless incoming, although he does have some cool THC options and his assists aren't bad. And anchor, his xfactor bonuses other than damage aren't that great and he can't really use excess meter that you gained when your team gets wasted quick.
If a patch does happen, they have to improve one of these problems to give him a place on a team. Earlier armor, shrink him a bit, fix his hyper scaling, better xfactor speed bonus, make his level 3 worth a damn. Something.
We basically made Nemesis much stronger at start of the round with faster start up on all his armored moves and better block strings. We designed him as a much better point character because there was no way to make him a better support character (we did give him better assists though) without a total rework. We fixed his hyper scaling and we buffed his LVL3 a ton, actually we buffed ALL of his hypers up.
Within the allocated 10 changes we did as much as we could for the character.
Within the allocated 10 changes we did as much as we could for the character.
Karsticles
Member
Nah, my BIL is a war veteran, so he knows all about playing to win. He jokes about stuff being cheap, but in practice he just works harder to overcome it. He has the attitude, just not the skills.
That's good then.
I have a friend who plinks by setting the dash to L+M, I believe, and then cancels it with H.
Fuck that, Wavedashing fo lyfe.
Also, there's a tournament on October. Gotta get that practice in yo. Whenever I'm XBL, no matter what I'm playing, feel free to message me and we can play some sets!
Fuck that, Wavedashing fo lyfe.
Also, there's a tournament on October. Gotta get that practice in yo. Whenever I'm XBL, no matter what I'm playing, feel free to message me and we can play some sets!