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[GatorBait]

Most MvC2 vets have turned out pretty good for the most part and Strider is looking mighty fine too.

Mostly true, but MvC2 Venom doesn't have a lot to work with. He just seems like the type of character that would really benefit from going back to the creative drawing board entirely with. (I think this is even true to a lesser extent for a lot of the existing MvC2 returning characters. The MvC3 team could've probably come up with some pretty imaginative ideas if they weren't confined to a certain degree by an already preexisting moveset).

Comedic as in funny or comedic as in Roll tier?

Praying for Phoenix Wright/Deadpool comedic and not useless comedic. I could see him having a brazen, snarky demeanor and some absurd special moves.

 

[Pctx]

To insure that one day you'd come to this thread and ask this question!

Most relevant response yet.

I guess my point is I've got MvC 3 and then what... 2-4 months later it leaks that this is coming out.... just boggles my mind.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I want to buy one of these.

 

[SolarPowered]

lol

Marvel sucks

Indeed

- All the new Marvel characters were suggested by Marvel; All of the Capcom characters were fan requests

So much for cooperation on character choices.

yeesh...

Firebrand was hardly a fan request though.

They did right by us on the variety of the inclusions as far as I'm concerned. They gave us a Ninja, a demon, the other son of sparda, a hulking zombie monster, Frank(good for TvC fans I guess) and Phoenix Wright who was requested by a massive amount of fans.

 

[GatorBait]

Most relevant response yet.

I guess my point is I've got MvC 3 and then what... 2-4 months later it leaks that this is coming out.... just boggles my mind.

If you bought it, you get to play MvC3 for 9 months. Or, for the rest of your life, if you choose not to upgrade.

If you didn't buy MvC3, there is no point to it anymore. Just like there is no point to buying the un-upgraded version of a lot of games. You can now buy a superior MvC3 version for $40 now.

 

[Kai Dracon]

Most relevant response yet.

I guess my point is I've got MvC 3 and then what... 2-4 months later it leaks that this is coming out.... just boggles my mind.

It's bad timing for everything and everyone.

Half of the content in Ultimate was going to be DLC for MVC3.

Japan got messed up. Capcom got nervous.

DLC for MVC3 got canceled.

Capcom bean counters pushed team to release disc based update for the game before the end of the year, or otherwise cancel the new content.

To their credit, the team has gone out of their way to pack the update with content and got it released at a cheaper price. The Heroes and Heralds mode is pretty elaborate, and seems to add a lot of value to the game (not tournament value, but it's the kind of meaty mode stuff that the game was lacking.)

To be fair, the price of all this content as DLC would be more at least as much as this disc based release.

At this point, I think most people have got over it and the hype for how good the refresh seems to be, has blunted a lot, but not all, of the negative feelings.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Comedic as in funny or comedic as in Roll tier?

I would hope as in funny. I'll be pretty salty if he's Roll tier.

 

[Red Arremer]

So much for cooperation on character choices.

yeesh...

It's not like they went to Capcom and said "Use these 12 characters, rawr!".
I'm sure the list of possible additions was quite extensive, given how huge the MU is, and Capcom picked the 12 cherries they wanted.

Comedic as in funny or comedic as in Roll tier?

Given how eidrian worded his hints at Rocky's moveset, he's gonna be funny.

 

[IntelliHeath]

It's not like they went to Capcom and said "Use these 12 characters, rawr!".
I'm sure the list of possible additions was quite extensive, given how huge the MU is, and Capcom picked the 12 cherries they wanted.




Given how eidrian worded his hints at Rocky's moveset, he's gonna be funny.

what hints? I missed it.

 

[Crocodile]

God I hope Wright isn't joke tier. I'm going to be pretty salty if he's joke tier

 

[Red Arremer]

Overall, this REALLY sounds like, "The people I like got in so I'm happy" rather than any sort of objective argument. Which is fine, but just recognize you don't really have a "high ground" so to speak of.

Honestly? If Ultimate didn't have Firebrand, Rocky, Nova, Dr. Strange, etc. ? Or vanilla not having Skrull, MODOK, Thor, and such?
I wouldn't mind. Totally not. Cause if Capcom thinks these characters are not worthwhile, then so be it.
The only thing I would be annoyed by is if the choices they made ended up with uninspired or clone movesets.

That's the reason I hate Akuma. That's the reason I'm a bit disappointed in Nova (he has a LOT more potential), although I'm probably gonna at least try having him on my team cause he does have a playstyle fitting well into the game.

I'm pretty sure this has more to do with people not liking RE5 Jill (a HUGE departure from every incarnation of the character) in general rather than her being different than MvC2 Jill. Its more akin to using the version of Magneto from that old FF cartoon that gets tricked by wooded guns than adding/deleting/tweaking moves. NOBODY seems upset that they are using the modern design of Storm as opposed to the version near all videogamers are more familiar with for example. Anyway, most people would MUCH rather have their favorite character in even if they were different than before than not have them in at all.

Fair enough. I am not familiar with RE at all (only played the first game), and felt MvC2 Jill's moveset was meh. And I actually do like this new version of Jill in terms of gameplay (I can imagine she's Black Widow - hoping for an black-costume redhead alt :3).

As for Storm, she did stay with the majority of her moveset from MvC2, didn't she? Same goes for Magneto and Wolvie.

Can you avoid saying inflammatory things like this? We are on a video game forum. Most of these characters are obscure to US. No matter how many years of comic book history they may have, they have little to no history outside that medium. There is no failing on our part. Accept that.

I am not blaming you for not knowing these characters. What I mean with these statements is that you should be open to new things.
I am open to new things, too. I know nothing about Devil May Cry or Resident Evil, and am not really interested in these series, yet you don't see me complaining about them getting so many characters in (and a LOT of people wanting even MORE), about Trish or Chris taking the spot of Mega Man or some other popular character or someone I would like to see.

 

[GatorBait]

- Intended to be the definitive version of MvC3

It sucks that it wasn't the first version, and there is no guarantee that it will be the last version, but I can say, even though it took 10 years and $100 retail between the two versions, UMvC3 is the sequel to MvC2 that the fans deserved.

Two years ago a lot of us had MvC3 at the top of our list of most-wanted sequels (that we were pessimistic of ever actually getting) and praying every day that we would get one. It can be easy to forget that sometimes depending on the amount of salt flowing around.

I'm fairly confident that UMvC3 is going to end up being the most fun I've ever had with a fighting game.

God I hope Wright isn't joke tier. I'm going to be pretty salty if he's joke tier

I'm harboring the current secret belief that he may end up top tier or even "broken tier"/S-tier. From the streams I've watched, he hasn't had much of an issue getting evidence, the Maya shield is ridiculous, and Turnabout mode lasts for so long.

 

[Red Arremer]

what hints? I missed it.

Rocky is gonna have bear traps (which also are one of his assists) and pendulums.

 

[Data West]

Still needs Black Bolt. For he is the true King of Cosmos.

I guess he'd be overpowered though, but then again, there was Thanos

also, I'm glad they went with Marvel's suggestion. It's a bunch of awesome characters. If they went by fan request, 'lol squirrel girl so zany! lol every old character because i played them in the last one and i dont like change'

 

[Kai Dracon]

God I hope Wright isn't joke tier. I'm going to be pretty salty if he's joke tier

There aren't any intentional joke tier characters - even Arthur is just a miscalculation / rushed design, as seen by his modifications in Ultimate to be played primarily in normal mode without relying on gold armor.

The only thing about Wright may be that, as others have said, he's MODOK tier... effective, even damned powerful in some circumstances, but awkward to play.

 

[DR2K]

Rocky is gonna have bear traps (which also are one of his assists) and pendulums.

Kiss of death.

 

[Red Arremer]

Still needs Black Bolt. For he is the true King of Cosmos.

I guess he'd be overpowered though, but then again, there was Thanos

Black Bolt would be interesting. He could have a moveset based on sound waves. I think Crystal also could be a really badass addition. Also, a Moon stage.

And yes, Thanos should be up in this bitch too. Cosmic Marvel all day, every day.

Kiss of death.

lol'd at that.

 

[SolarPowered]

Still needs Black Bolt. For he is the true King of Cosmos.

I guess he'd be overpowered though, but then again, there was Thanos

also, I'm glad they went with Marvel's suggestion. It's a bunch of awesome characters. If they went by fan request, 'lol squirrel girl so zany! lol every old character because i played them in the last one and i dont like change'

They can bring it. I want to kill Phoenix by literally telling her to HOLD DAT SHIT.

I bet a character with offense based on his voice would be a real treat for Capcom though. I'd love to see the look on the faces of Niitsuma's team lol.

Kiss of death.

I'll stomp every Raccoon player into dust lol. A wise man once said...

"Let the salts flow"

-Intellihealth

 

[JazzmanZ]

On the subject of MvC3 character inclusions, I'm pretty sure Marvel went ahead adding certain characters in this game to gain more popularity too, I'm sure 90% of you have no idea who the fuck Taskmaster or M.O.D.O.K was but they've both had a cult following sorta like Deadpool did back then until he became a huge Marvel hit.

I'm sure Marvel cares at the lack of Gambit or Venom in the game but I'm pretty sure they want more people to know more about Marvel beyond X-men, Avengers, Spider-man and the rest of the 90's Like Dommaru or Nova, branching into the different spectrums of the Marvel U.

I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up adding Black Bolt or Moon night into a AE edition or MvC4 just to get more people to know some cool superheroes beyond Ghost rider or the Hulk.

 

[GatorBait]

Here some of the quotes from the article with a little more context:

http://www.complex.com/video-games/...ats-new-in-ultimate-marvel-vs-capcom-3/page/2

I want to talk about the characters this time around. Rocket Raccoon in particular. How does he fit into the MvC Universe?

When we think of Rocket Raccoon, that character just lends himself to comedy, so we can take some of the comedic aspects of his character and personality and incorporate that into the game. And I think that’s what makes him fit really well.

What was the decision to put the characters we have now in Ultimate in the game?

First off, we had scheduling issues because we wanted to get this game out at a certain time frame so we were restricted with what we could do within that time.

On the Marvel side, Marvel had a list of the characters they wanted to see in the game, and they just presented that to us. We checked their list and then we signed off on the characters we thought would work.

 

[Data West]

Black Bolt would be interesting. He could have a moveset based on sound waves. I think Crystal also could be a really badass addition. Also, a Moon stage.

And yes, Thanos should be up in this bitch too. Cosmic Marvel all day, every day.




lol'd at that.

Disney should really hire someone to do a Cosmic Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Nova, Beta Ray Bill, Nova, The Inhumans, etc

 

[Crocodile]

There aren't any intentional joke tier characters - even Arthur is just a miscalculation / rushed design, as seen by his modifications in Ultimate to be played primarily in normal mode without relying on gold armor.

The only thing about Wright may be that, as others have said, he's MODOK tier... effective, even damned powerful in some circumstances, but awkward to play.

Oh I don't think Capcom will try to make anyone joke tier, but just looking at MvC3 and looking at some of the changes they have made or not made in UMvC3, I'm just left SMH. Like in general these people are good at what they do but they occasionally fail so spectacularly I'm just left wondering, "how did that get through testing?".

 

[Red Arremer]

Disney should really hire someone to do a Cosmic Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Nova, Beta Ray Bill, Nova, The Inhumans, etc

I suppose with the second Nova you mean Frankie Raye?
But I totally agree. So much potential.
Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova (Corps), Skrulls, Shi'ar, Kree, Heralds of Galactus, Inhumans, Titans, Annihilation Wave, all the single players like Quasar or Moondragon...

<3

Edit: And how could I forget Adam Warlock? Derp. :V

 

[JazzmanZ]

I want a MUA game with playable Fin fang foom :|

 

[Red Arremer]

I want a MUA game with playable Fin fang foom :|

 

[SolarKnight]

Can you name me a popular personality who would be any like Amaterasu?

Well...

I main and adore both though.

Ok, just had to reply to that, now back to catching up with the thread >.>

 

[Crocodile]

Honestly? If Ultimate didn't have Firebrand, Rocky, Nova, Dr. Strange, etc. ? Or vanilla not having Skrull, MODOK, Thor, and such?
I wouldn't mind. Totally not. Cause if Capcom thinks these characters are not worthwhile, then so be it.
The only thing I would be annoyed by is if the choices they made ended up with uninspired or clone movesets.

That's the reason I hate Akuma. That's the reason I'm a bit disappointed in Nova (he has a LOT more potential), although I'm probably gonna at least try having him on my team cause he does have a playstyle fitting well into the game.

Really?! You wouldn't care at all? I mean you know yourself better than I know you but I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure few share this viewpoint (i.e. don't care at all if their favorite characters are in the game or not) nor do I think they should be innately faulted for not sharing this viewpoint. Different people want different things from the same game overall. I agree with you on Akuma and Nova.

I am not blaming you for not knowing these characters. What I mean with these statements is that you should be open to new things.
I am open to new things, too. I know nothing about Devil May Cry or Resident Evil, and am not really interested in these series, yet you don't see me complaining about them getting so many characters in (and a LOT of people wanting even MORE), about Trish or Chris taking the spot of Mega Man or some other popular character or someone I would like to see.

Don't worry, I'll give the Raccoon his fair share when I'm actually able to get my hands on him. Just please don't blame me or others for not giving a damn about him until then.

 

[JazzmanZ]

A fate worse than death

 

[Professor Beef]

He's never getting off the moon, you know.

Never.

 

[vg260]

Mostly true, but MvC2 Venom doesn't have a lot to work with. He just seems like the type of character that would really benefit from going back to the creative drawing board entirely with. (I think this is even true to a lesser extent for a lot of the existing MvC2 returning characters. The MvC3 team could've probably come up with some pretty imaginative ideas if they weren't confined to a certain degree by an already preexisting moveset).

Yeah, I wish they re-invented a lot of the returning cast.

- Intended to be the definitive version of MvC3

It's hardly the definitive version when they left 8 characters on the table and have some gaping holes in the roster. (no Spidey rep & Megaman). Hopefully they only mean definitive in terms of the core game, not the roster. An AE-style update hitting on these and a couple more fan requests, and then they can call it definitive.

I'm hoping we'll see an AE-style (DLC & disc) update with 6-8 characters. I doubt they'll do piecemeal DLC releases. Best I would realistically expect would be something like that after EVO. But then, that's summer superhero movie season (Spidey movie/game) and Marvel's probably going to be super picky again.

 

[enzo_gt]

You know that feeling? When there's a raging argument going on in MahvelGAF and you type up a reply and you realize...

..that you've typed up the exact same thing once before? I know that feeling.

Anyways if Capcom chose from Marvel's shortlist, they made some pretty decent decisions I'm guessing. God knows whatever other characters nobody gives a shit about they had on that list. I'm not sure why people are still discussing should'ves and would'ves anyways because that shit is ambiguous all along. Megaman X and Gene were rumoured to be on the shortlist.. a massive Capcom shortlist. Expected that the Marvel shortlist was pretty big too if initial intentions were 20 new characters, not 12.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Dahbomb, or Enzo,

I'm giving up dibs on /OT/

I just checked my schedule for next month and it seem that I might be very busy with stuffs so I don't think I have spare time to make the stuff for /OT/

 

[number47]

Can you think of a popular character who would play like MODOK?
Can you name me a popular personality who would be any like Amaterasu?
Can you tell me someone popular who could play like Dormammu?

Knowing Gambit and Venom well - Gambit would bring one single new concept to the table: A polearm as main weapon. But there's a lot of other characters who could use polearms and be so much more interesting with other novel concepts. Dark form? We already got Phoenix, Dante, Vergil, etc. Or do you think he would change his moveset? There we have someone like Phoenix Wright or Amaterasu.

Venom? What does he have interesting? Tendrils? Other than that, he doesn't really have anything that makes him specifically unique.

Crap/.

You know whats really annoying about requesting venom? there has been a new venom for the past couple of months.yet nothing about his abilities has been really acknowledged. So it would be not profitable for Marvel to just throw him into the game.

the last venom was scorpion which would just be too violent. you all are asking for eddie brock venom.but hes gone. let it go.

 

[Red Arremer]

Well...

volnutt.jpg

I main and adore both though.

I'm not referring specifically to the weapon change system of Ammy, I more meant everything she does have in her moveset, like the freeze shots, the counters, etc.
The weapon changing is part of that, obviously.

Really?! You wouldn't care at all? I mean you know yourself better than I know you but I find that hard to believe. I'm pretty sure few share this viewpoint (i.e. don't care at all if their favorite characters are in the game or not) nor do I think they should be innately faulted for not sharing this viewpoint. Different people want different things from the same game overall. I agree with you on Akuma and Nova.

Nope, wouldn't care at all. I would be surprised if characters like, I dunno, Spider-Man or Hulk didn't make it in at all. But hey, Thor (one of Marvel's Top 5 popular characters) wasn't playable in ANY Capcom-based Marvel game until MvC3 - only appearance until then was as an assist in MvC1.

Essentially, my point is - there is a limited amount of place. You will NEVER be able to put in ALL the characters people want to see. I'm happy with the characters we got - regarding the fan service in this game, I'm, first and foremost, a Marvel fan. So I really enjoy all character choices in this game. I would be really upset if they added Boneclaw Wolverine or War Machine instead of someone unique like MODOK or Rocket Raccoon. They are not only giving us unique gameplay, but also show OTHER parts of the Marvel universe that I know. And that others don't - and hopefully, it will trigger interest into these parts of Marvel. Things like Cosmic or Supernatural Marvel. And really, can you blame Marvel for trying to show their recent development in the comics, or going for cross-advertising with their presence in other media?

 

[Jintor]

God I'm so hyped for this game.

 

[enzo_gt]

Dahbomb, or Enzo,

I'm giving up dibs on /OT/

I just checked my schedule for next month and it seem that I might be very busy with stuffs so I don't think I have spare time to make the stuff for /OT/

Shieeeeeeeeeettttttt.

I think MahvelGAF royalty's Dahbomb should get the first shot at that, I just know he's probably gonna be busy too with his hospital work going on. I'd love to help write up stuff too. If he doesn't want to do it, I will for sure.

BTW, could you update OP with Heroes and Heralds stuff and then afterwards get a mod to change the thread title to reflect the update? If you want I can write a summary of the stuff we know so far for you to add.

 

[SolarPowered]

Shieeeeeeeeeettttttt.

I think MahvelGAF royalty's Dahbomb should get the first shot at that, I just know he's probably gonna be busy too with his hospital work going on. I'd love to help write up stuff too. If he doesn't want to do it, I will for sure.

BTW, could you update OP with Heroes and Heralds stuff and then afterwards get a mod to change the thread title to reflect the update? If you want I can write a summary of the stuff we know so far for you to add.

I nominate you for the Presidential OP position.

Essentially, my point is - there is a limited amount of place. You will NEVER be able to put in ALL the characters people want to see. I'm happy with the characters we got - regarding the fan service in this game, I'm, first and foremost, a Marvel fan. So I really enjoy all character choices in this game. I would be really upset if they added Boneclaw Wolverine or War Machine instead of someone unique like MODOK or Rocket Raccoon. They are not only giving us unique gameplay, but also show OTHER parts of the Marvel universe that I know. And that others don't - and hopefully, it will trigger interest into these parts of Marvel. Things like Cosmic or Supernatural Marvel. And really, can you blame Marvel for trying to show their recent development in the comics, or going for cross-advertising with their presence in other media?

Seventy is the golden number that even Marvel would have to struggle to fuck up. Capcom is only missing four for absolute fan pleasing(Gene, Megaman, Jin and CapCom).

The only people who could lose with that number are fans of the inhumans and powerstone fans.

 

[Karsticles]

That's very decent of you to pass the position on to someone else Heath.

Much respect to Enzo or Dahbomb - I'm sure either will do a fantastic job.

 

[Red Arremer]

I also think enzo or dahbomb would be the best for that. You guys are totally into lists and write-ups. :3

But yea, thanks for letting us know, Heath.

Seventy is the golden number that even Marvel would have to struggle to fuck up. Capcom is only missing four for absolute fan pleasing(Gene, Megaman, Jin and CapCom).

I wouldn't call that ABSOLUTE fan pleasing... what about the people wanting Rival Schools get in there? Or villains? Girls? Moar Street Fighters/Darkstalkers/Devils that Cry/Resident Evils/etc.?

 

[SolarKnight]

Yeah, Enzo or Dahbomb are the perfect candidates for the OT. Who did the original anyways?

I'm not referring specifically to the weapon change system of Ammy, I more meant everything she does have in her moveset, like the freeze shots, the counters, etc.
The weapon changing is part of that, obviously.

I know it's not the same, but it's similar. I was just saying anyways, I wouldn't replace Ammy with anyone (I WOULD kill to have Rock back in the game though >.>).

 

[IntelliHeath]

Shieeeeeeeeeettttttt.

I think MahvelGAF royalty's Dahbomb should get the first shot at that, I just know he's probably gonna be busy too with his hospital work going on. I'd love to help write up stuff too. If he doesn't want to do it, I will for sure.

BTW, could you update OP with Heroes and Heralds stuff and then afterwards get a mod to change the thread title to reflect the update? If you want I can write a summary of the stuff we know so far for you to add.

I already did with movie link (and opening link) but I need a description and list so can anyone get it for me and thanks.

Sorry if I seem lazy. Just very exhausted from long trip from NYC weekend.

Yeah, Enzo or Dahbomb are the perfect candidates for the OT. Who did the original anyways?



I know it's not the same, but it's similar. I was just saying anyways, I wouldn't replace Ammy with anyone (I WOULD kill to have Rock back in the game though >.>).

Dahbomb did original OT, IIRC. (He did. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=420251)

He could done way way way way better than what I would do.

 

[vg260]

Seventy is the golden number that even Marvel would have to struggle to fuck up. Capcom is only missing four for absolute fan pleasing(Gene, Megaman, Jin and CapCom).

The only people who could lose with that number are fans of the inhumans and powerstone fans.

I'd say 4-6 more total characters to reasonably please everyone. All Capcom needs is Megaman and Gene. Marvel just needs Green Goblin/Dock Ock, a female, and Gambit/Cyclops/fan fav. That's it's. Everything else is icing. They came real close.

 

[Red Arremer]

I already did with movie link (and opening link) but I need a description and list so can anyone get it for me and thanks.

Sorry if I seem lazy. Just very exhausted from long trip from NYC weekend.

I'd totally make one, but I'm fighting falling asleep right now. XD
Don't think I can concentrate enough for it.

 

[SolarPowered]

I wouldn't call that ABSOLUTE fan pleasing... what about the people wanting Rival Schools get in there? Or villains? Girls? Moar Street Fighters/Darkstalkers/Devils that Cry/Resident Evils/etc.?

One thing: Fuck Resident Evil, Devil May Cry and Ken

Everything outside of the missing four are a bonus. They've covered an amazing amount of characters and they've done a wonderful job of making the game viable for a large amount of the cast despite the top five in Vanilla MvC3. Capcom has also done a great job of making old MvC Capcom vets solid at this game.

Rival Schools and Powerstone were never sure fire bets and they're more of a dream. Most people don't even consider them when they talk about dream rosters, but they're always in the back of my mind.

Noteon't take what I say too seriously unless it is about RE, DMC and Ken. Fuck those guys.

I'd say 4-6 more total characters to reasonably please everyone. All Capcom needs is Megaman and Gene. Marvel just needs Green Goblin/Dock Ock, a female, and Gambit/Cyclops/fan fav. That's it's. Everything else is icing. They came real close.

Marvel has been skimping on us and people expect a lot more from them, but I don't . I stopped worrying about their additions because they want to pretend that non comic readers don't exist unless it has something to do with their movies.

 

[Gunstarheroes]

Dude, i would have given my left nut for any Nextwave characters. I can hope for a card, at least.

 

[Red Arremer]

Dude, i would have given my left nut for any Nextwave characters. I can hope for a card, at least.

See first one.

In any case, Monica Rambeau (Captain Marvel, Photon, Pulsar... Whatever name you prefer) would be such an AWESOME character to put in, lol.

 

[devastatorprime]

Personally I feel that Onimusha, Rival Schools and Sengoku Basara need to be represented in this game. Onimusha and Basara especially. I wouldnt even mind if they just brought Batsu and Soki over from TvC.

 

[Frantic]

Noteon't take what I say too seriously unless it is about RE, DMC and Ken. Fuck those guys.

Hey now, don't be hating. I probably wouldn't have bought this game if a DMC character wasn't in it.

 

[enzo_gt]

Heroes and Heralds Mode
Cam Trailer

Heroes and Heralds mode is a FREE POST-LAUNCH DLC, optional game mode that is separate from the core game and can be played offline or online that allows for a new style of play. The game mode centres around collecting and equipping ability cards to your teams to power them up and give them new abilities. There are 100+ ability cards to collect, and they contain cameos of characters from Marvel, Capcom, and Marvel vs. Capcom history.

In Heroes and Heralds mode, you pick a faction: either the Heroes that unite against Galactus, or the Heralds of Galactus that are trying to destroy Earth. Herald teams have a shiny silver texture much like the Heralds of Galactus did in arcade mode. Offline, you play against the CPU battling for control over zones (stages) which are controlled by the opposing faction. By defeating the CPU opponents and regaining control of zones (reportedly if you clear a line of zones on the grid), you can earn more cards and unlock new zones to bring the battle to. Online, you can choose a faction every week and battle against other players online from the opposing faction in these same zones in a persistent push/pull which you can see the current status of at any time. Tentatively, at the end of the week the wins and losses are totaled and the winning team wins more cards for use, and the score is reset for the next week. PR that talked about clans was just actually referring to you picking Heroes or Heralds for the week.

Now, on to the meat of it; the ability cards:
- Cards offer unique abilities to characters, and can range from invisibility, to granting characters new moves such as teleports, extra jumps, and dashes.
- Some cards grant multiple abilities.
- Equipping cards is on a per-team basis, not a per-character one
- You can equip up to a maximum of 3 cards for your team, 3 cards is a "deck"
- The order of cards has significance in your deck, the primary card's function will be more prominent than the two secondary cards' functions (i.e. an example Seth gave was that one card would start you with 3 meters if primary, 2 meters if secondary)
- You cannot use two of the same card in a single deck
- Some cards are rarer than others to acquire than others
- The game will offer 3 deck slots that you can preset and customize. These are separate from your 3 team slots that you could already preset and customize in MvC3 (and are returning in UMvC3)
- You can see what cards your opponent has equipped, and the abilities they grant on the loading screen before a match and the intros. You can see the abilitiy icons during the match as they appear below the health bars on the HUD
- Some abilities are persistent, some have activation conditions. The specifics at the moment are TBD and being tweaked by the devs
- There are over 1.12 million combinations of cards (according to Capcom PR)
- You can win cards off of others, though this was only briefly mentioned and not detailed
- All the card artwork is brand new. Marvel is doing the art for the Marvel cards and Capcom is doing the art for the Capcom cards
- DLC cards are TBD

List of Cards and the abilities they grant:

Character - Ability granted

Abombination - ?
Akira - ?
Anakaris - ?
Anti-Venom - ?
Astaroth - ?
Batsu Ichimonji - ?
Beast - ?
Bishamon - ?
Black Panther - ?
Black Widow - ?
Clea - ?
Cyber Blue - ?
Daken - ?
Godot - ?
Grandmaster - ?
Green Goblin - ?
Hayato - ?
Hideo Shimazu - ?
Howard the Duck - ?
Hulkbuster Armor - ?
Hunk - ?
Iceman - ?
Invisible Woman - Invisibility
Jin Saotome - ?
Juggernaut - ?
June - ?
Kenji - ?
Leon S. Kennedy - ?
Megaman X - ?
Mephisto - ?
Multiple-Man - ?
Nightcrawler - Teleportation
Nightcrawler - Blinking air dash similar to a teleport
Sasquatch - ?
Roll - ?
Ryu - ?
Scarlett Witch - ?
Spider-Ham - ?
Wasp - ?
? - Parrying
? - Assist Super Armor
? - X-Factor Burst
? - Dizzying assist attacks
? - Projectile invincibility
? - Special-cancellable specials
? - Invisible vitality gauge
? - Airdash
? - Start with 3 bars of hyper meter (2 if secondary)
? - Team of One
? - Speed Boost
? - Jump number increase

Credit goes to CAW of GameFAQs for helping complete the list.

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Yeah I hate to say it but, come to think of it this kind-of deserves it's own thread, that's a shitload of new news beyond just PW/Nova. THE WORD NEEDS TO GET OUT. Yes?

 

[Frantic]

Yeah I hate to say it but, come to think of it this kind-of deserves it's own thread, that's a shitload of new news beyond just PW/Nova. THE WORD NEEDS TO GET OUT. Yes?

Yes. This stuff needs to get out so everyone can see it.