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[HK-47]

lol Reed Richards can do a lot more than Dhalsim. If he ended up just like Dhalsim (a role Ghost Rider already fills) thats the fault of the design team.

 

[BiggNife]

Also it's worth mentioning that it is super likely that Phoenix is coming back in the comics soon.

 

[Professor Beef]

Animal with a big gun is hardly an improvement over tentacle monster.

Well we'll find out in a couple of weeks, won't we?

 

[DR2K]

In this game, every character has something unique to them that makes them vastly different from the other characters. And to be frank, I'd rather have a game with oddballs having unique gamestyles (not to mention that even the oddballs are part of the history of the particular company) rather than 500 shotos that all play the same but are called Venom, Gambit or Mega Man.

Venom, Gambit, and Megman play the same. . . care to elaborate?

 

[HK-47]

Also it's worth mentioning that it is super likely that Phoenix is coming back in the comics soon.

Which is kinda my point. Everyone is always coming back. Even when they make a big deal about it, they come back.

 

[DR2K]

Which is kinda my point. Everyone is always coming back. Even when they make a big deal about it, they come back.

It's been like 7 years though, it rarely takes this long. Does it?

 

[Crocodile]

This and so much this.
That's why I prefer having Skrull instead of Human Torch or Thing, or why I enjoy having Viper instead of Ken, or why I like having MODOK instead of Cyclops... their playstyles are just so different from all the other characters in the game already or in comparison to MvC2. Most of the playstyles in MvC2 are pretty uninspired, some are even direct clones with slight aesthetic differences and/or moves having a bit different attributes.
That's also the reason I'm a bit upset about Akuma getting in, as he offers little in comparison to Ryu, who obviously has to be in to rep Street Fighter.

In this game, every character has something unique to them that makes them vastly different from the other characters. And to be frank, I'd rather have a game with oddballs having unique gamestyles (not to mention that even the oddballs are part of the history of the particular company) rather than 500 shotos that all play the same but are called Venom, Gambit or Mega Man.

To me gameplay >>>>>>> aesthetics.

As for Marvel pushing for specific characters, I actually approve of that. Look at it this way. Would you, an average fighting game player, ever have known of characters like Rocket Raccoon or Iron Fist? These second-tier characters are not only there to cater to the actual comic fans, but also to get the people who don't read comics interested into them. Especially these 2 characters - have you seen how many people went "I don't know ANYTHING about Rocky/Iron Fist, but I looked him up and he seems awesome."? That's what you call publicity. They are making their second tier series more known. Which is GOOD. There's so much more to the Marvel universe but the heavy-hitters, and by showing consumers who are not "up to date" or very interested into comics new characters, you are going to attract them to check them out.

... that turned out longer than I intended it to be. I should stop rambling.

I'm sorry, not picking on you or anything, but whenever somebody says something like the bolded I want to strangle the nearest pet. If those characters suck or end up playing too much like any other character then that's the fault of the development theme. There is a ton of interesting material to pull from the history of these characters and there is no reason to expect these characters to be copies of their older incarnations unless the development team is lazy.

As to the other point, let's not act surprised when people, humans in general, are more interested in things they already know they like over things they may or may not like.

 

[Red Arremer]

Venom, Gambit, and Megman play the same. . . care to elaborate?

No.
What I mean is I'd rather have gameplay over names.

Means, a game with 500 characters probably ensures your favorite character is in, but 500 characters doesn't mean the game's gonna be good or the characters diverse.

Same goes to Crocodile, btw.

 

[Anth0ny]

No.
What I mean is I'd rather have gameplay over names.

Means, a game with 500 characters probably ensures your favorite character is in, but 500 characters doesn't mean the game's gonna be good or the characters diverse.

Same goes to Crocodile, btw.

Why can't we have both gameplay and names? I'd happily buy yearly installments of Marvel 3 if it means 12 new characters a year, balance tweaks, and unique playstyles.

COD and sports games certainly get away with it.

 

[HK-47]

Why can't we have both gameplay and names? I'd happily buy yearly installments of Marvel 3 if it means 12 new characters a year, balance tweaks, and unique playstyles.

COD and sports games certainly get away with it.

Cause fighting games arent CoD or sports games?

 

[Red Arremer]

Why can't we have both gameplay and names? I'd happily buy yearly installments of Marvel 3 if it means 12 new characters a year, balance tweaks, and unique playstyles.

COD and sports games certainly get away with it.

Then you are one of very few.
Apparently it's alright for shooters and sports games, but not for fighting games. Capcom is just a moneygrubbing bunch of dicks.

 

[SolarPowered]

I think the easiest explanation for that suggestion is that, I would assume, the primary demographic who is most critical about MvC3 has had the a lot of their Marvel character exposure resulting from growing up during the 90's. We played 90s X-men-heavy Marvel crossovers for over a decade, dabbled or were fully invested in 90s comic storylines, and watched the Marvel cartoons and played other Marvel videogames (both of which primarily dealt with X-men or Spider-man).


X-men representatives already make up 25% of the on-disk roster as it is. And aren't the Wolverine and Storm designs in this game the non-Jim Lee designs?

The problem with using the word "fanservice" is in its definition. Fanservice for who?

X-men related characters:
Deadpool
Phoenix
Magneto
Storm
X-23
Wolverine
Sentinel

Look at this list and you can tell they made some really weird decisions. Three of the characters were in MvC2 and completely dominated the scene like Gods for the better part of a decade. Out of the new additions one of them is made so broken that people boo when she is picked at major fighting game tournaments and the mainstay(Wolvie) is designed so haphazardly that 90% of the people who don't use him absolutely hate him.

The only characters that don't get a bad rap here are Storm(since she is not retarded or over the top), X-23(people warmed up to her after a while) and Deadpool(Everyone loves this guy lol).

I don't know why Schism is selling so bad(in their eyes), but their choices for this game have certainly not helped them sell any issues.

 

[Anth0ny]

Cause fighting games arent CoD or sports games?

Well we have been getting yearly installments of Street Fighter IV... and in Marvel's case, two in 8 months...

 

[DR2K]

No.
What I mean is I'd rather have gameplay over names.

Means, a game with 500 characters probably ensures your favorite character is in, but 500 characters doesn't mean the game's gonna be good or the characters diverse.

Same goes to Crocodile, btw.

You mean it's impossible to have both? You HAVE to go with obscure choices in favor of gameplay? Megaman(with all his transformations), Gambit(a dark form), and Venom(various types) are all very unexplored in terms of gameplay.

 

[HK-47]

Then you are one of very few.
Apparently it's alright for shooters and sports games, but not for fighting games. Capcom is just a moneygrubbing bunch of dicks.

Activision and EA get called money grubbing dicks all the time. Dont act like it something only poor old Capcom puts up with.

 

[TDLink]

As opposed to Rocket Raccoon, lol?

The difference is Shuma-Gorath has been in less than half a dozen different comics over the entire course of Marvel history while Rocket Racoon has been a huge player in cosmic for the last 6 years and is now in prime position to become one of its truly central characters. He is also going to be on the new season of the Avengers Cartoon and they are making a Guardians of the Galaxy movie.

Isnt Phoenix dead and Nova kinda dead? Death means so little in comics its not an excuse at all when they will be back in 4 months.

Nova isn't dead, him and Star-Lord (and Thanos) are all just trapped in the Shuma-Gorath dimension. I am sure though they will figure out some way to get them out of there.

 

[Red Arremer]

You mean it's impossible to have both? You HAVE to go with obscure choices in favor of gameplay? Megaman(with all his transformations), Gambit(a dark form), and Venom(various types) are all very unexplored in terms of gameplay.

Can you think of a popular character who would play like MODOK?
Can you name me a popular personality who would be any like Amaterasu?
Can you tell me someone popular who could play like Dormammu?

Knowing Gambit and Venom well - Gambit would bring one single new concept to the table: A polearm as main weapon. But there's a lot of other characters who could use polearms and be so much more interesting with other novel concepts. Dark form? We already got Phoenix, Dante, Vergil, etc. Or do you think he would change his moveset? There we have someone like Phoenix Wright or Amaterasu.

Venom? What does he have interesting? Tendrils? Other than that, he doesn't really have anything that makes him specifically unique.

Mega Man, yes, he could've been interesting. But I don't really care much for him.

I'm not saying that popular characters are bad choices in general. I'm just saying that obscure(r) characters have a lot of potential as well, and you shouldn't shit on the developers or the people in charge of one half of the roster for choosing something that is a bit less known in order to show off new movesets or characters that are vital part of their history AND offer good gameplay options.

Edit:
Also... The thing is, these characters chosen. They are ALL important AND popular characters to people who actually read comics. They didn't pull out the REAL obscure characters. We're not having Gatecrusher or the Rose or Ursa Major. We're having some of the most major players in the entire MU, just different sections of it.
The most obscure character is Shuma-Gorath who was in like... 10ish comics. The next obscure one is already someone like Dormammu or X-23 (since she hasn't been around for long).

 

[Anth0ny]

Can you think of a popular character who would play like MODOK?
Can you name me a popular personality who would be any like Amaterasu?
Can you tell me someone popular who could play like Dormammu?

Knowing Gambit and Venom well - Gambit would bring one single new concept to the table: A polearm as main weapon. But there's a lot of other characters who could use polearms and be so much more interesting with other novel concepts. Dark form? We already got Phoenix, Dante, Vergil, etc. Or do you think he would change his moveset? There we have someone like Phoenix Wright or Amaterasu.

Venom? What does he have interesting? Tendrils? Other than that, he doesn't really have anything that makes him specifically unique.

Mega Man, yes, he could've been interesting. But I don't really care much for him.

I'm not saying that popular characters are bad choices in general. I'm just saying that obscure(r) characters have a lot of potential as well, and you shouldn't shit on the developers or the people in charge of one half of the roster for choosing something that is a bit less known in order to show off new movesets or characters that are vital part of their history AND offer good gameplay options.

Well Nova doesn't exactly have the most interesting moveset either.

If they really dig through the comics, I'm sure Gambit, Venom, Cyclops and all the other characters fans are wishing for could have a great, unique movesets. It's just up to Marvel to stop being stupid about what characters are allowed, and Capcom to not be lazy.

I don't see any of those stopping any time soon, though :lol

 

[Red Arremer]

Well Nova doesn't exactly have the most interesting moveset either.

If they really dig through the comics, I'm sure Gambit, Venom, Cyclops and all the other characters fans are wishing for could have a great, unique movesets. It's just up to Marvel to stop being stupid about what characters are allowed, and Capcom to not be lazy.

I don't see any of those stopping any time soon, though :lol

Yea, but if they changed these characters other than very slight changes, people are going to bitch again.
Case in point: Jill.

Almost everyone is throwing hissy fits about her not being the MvC2 incarnation. Venom, Cyclops and Gambit would have to have pretty much everything they had in MvC2 at the very least, and then some.

 

[thetrin]

Isnt Phoenix dead and Nova kinda dead? Death means so little in comics its not an excuse at all when they will be back in 4 months.

Jean has been dead since Grant Morrison's run of New X-men (7 years). She's been dead for a pretty long time by comic standards, especially for a mainline X-men character.

 

[Pctx]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

 

[GotchaForce]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

Generate salt.

 

[Red Arremer]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

The point is to play it...?

 

[thetrin]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

I don't even understand this question.

Also it's worth mentioning that it is super likely that Phoenix is coming back in the comics soon.

Phoenix, but not necessarily Jean.

 

[El Sloth]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

Bionic Arm.

 

[corrosivefrost]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

Generate revenue from beta testing.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

The writers for the win quotes, entrances, etc... are great. lol

Doctor Doom:
(vs. Phoenix Wright) "In Latveria we have no lawyers. Only corpses." -win quote

Ghost Rider:
(vs. Phoenix Wright) "You know how many lawyers are in hell?"
(vs. Wesker) "Hell is calling, Albert." -win quote

Doctor Strange
(vs. Firebrand) "This gargoyle's quest... has failed." - win quote

Tronne Bonne
(vs. Ryu or Akuma) "Sorry, I don't have time for poor people!" -win quote <- Did she always say that?

Vergil:
(vs. Strider Hiryu) "Those ersatz life forms you summon have no soul, and hence no power to stop me." - after win quote

 

[Hot Coldman]

Phoenix, but not necessarily Jean.

Sweet! More of this please:

 

[Papercuts]

Yea, but if they changed these characters other than very slight changes, people are going to bitch again.
Case in point: Jill.

Almost everyone is throwing hissy fits about her not being the MvC2 incarnation. Venom, Cyclops and Gambit would have to have pretty much everything they had in MvC2 at the very least, and then some.

People aren't happy with Jill that's not the Jill people wanted in a game loaded with fanservice. They specifically stuck with the rendition a single game used and ever will use, it was a weird/dumb decision that loses her actual character in the process. But to be fair, there are now going to be 5 reps from capcom zombie games with 3 of them being normal people so they didn't have that much to work with. Marvel side has a lot more to work with, especially with all the popular ones with a much bigger base to build on.

 

[GatorBait]

X-men related characters: Deadpool, Phoenix Magneto, Storm, X-23, Wolverine, Sentinel.

Look at this list and you can tell they made some really weird decisions.

I'm not really sure I understand the point of your reply, but none of those look weird to me at all. I'll give you the seemingly obvious logic for each:

- Deadpool: Forgive me if I'm incorrect here, but I wouldn't consider him primarily an X-men character even though he has been affiliated with them at certain points.
- Phoenix: Unique gameplay mechanic that the team specifically wanted to take on. (Also, anecdotal, but I saw her on a lot of people's wish lists over the past 10 years).
- Magneto: Most popular X-men villain; popular MvC2 character.
- Storm: Popular "core" X-men member; popular MvC2 character.
- X-23: Popular character with modern Marvel fans; IP that Marvel wants to promote.
- Wolverine: Most popular X-men member and one of the most popular Marvel characters overall.
- Sentinel: Fan service for MvC2 vets.

I'm sure I didn't have to list those out because I know that you are smart enough to figure out the reason for each, so I will reiterate my earlier comment about not really understand the point of your initial reply.

The "brokenness" of any character is irrelevant to the decision of their inclusion, unless you are positing the idea that Capcom intentionally designed any one character to be "broken."

 

[DR2K]

I'm not saying that popular characters are bad choices in general. I'm just saying that obscure(r) characters have a lot of potential as well, and you shouldn't shit on the developers or the people in charge of one half of the roster for choosing something that is a bit less known in order to show off new movesets or characters that are vital part of their history AND offer good gameplay options.

It's up to developers to make the moveset, all Wright does is point in games and he already has one of the most interesting and unique movesets. Being obscure and whatnot doesn't guarantee new gameplay.

Yea, but if they changed these characters other than very slight changes, people are going to bitch again.
Case in point: Jill.

She's a completely different character, that's hardly a slight change, and not a good one to boot.

 

[SolarPowered]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

Piss off Darkstalker fans and X-Men fans.

I'm not really sure I understand the point of your reply, but none of those look weird to me at all. I'll give you the seemingly obvious logic for each:

They've got a weird idea of fanservice when it comes to the X-men. Only one is truly new generation and several of them may put people off when they even hear the word X-men. Also, once you start taking out characters like Deadpool it goes from 1/4th of Marvel's roster to 1/5th. Not nearly as bad as people make it look.

I'm saying that their choices for reps on the X-men side were just weird considering how strongly they try to promote their other newer characters.

Titty Monster Zero.

This too

 

[spindashing]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

Titty Monster Zero.

 

[Kai Dracon]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

To insure that one day you'd come to this thread and ask this question!

 

[Red Arremer]

It's up to developers to make the moveset, all Wright does is point in games and he already has one of the most interesting and unique movesets. Being obscure and whatnot doesn't guarantee new gameplay.

Hence I'm not proposing ONLY obscure characters being chosen.
I said, and I repeat:
I prefer obscure characters that bring new gameplay to the table over popular characters that wouldn't.

Imagine. Marvel allows Capcom to use Venom. They put in the current rendition of Venom, who is essentially a super-powered SpecOps. NOT Eddie Brock. Now, what would happen?
Exactly.

Imagine. Capcom puts in one of the most popular Street Fighter characters, Ken, into the game. He ends up getting an entirely new moveset because Capcom wants to have diversity. Now, what would happen?
Exactly.

And I repeat:
All the characters on the Marvel side are everything but obscure. They're obscure to people who rub their groins on the 90s X-Men cartoon. But they are not obscure in general. They're all characters with decades of history, with the exception of X-23 who has been a very important and popular NEW character.
The only truly obscure character is Shuma-Gorath.

She's a completely different character, that's hardly a slight change, and not a good one to boot.

Are you starting to have problems comprehending text or something over your salt?

if they changed these characters other than very slight changes, people are going to bitch again

 

[BiggNife]

So I'll just ask since I'm sure it was asked a couple of times before... what is the point of MvC 3?

That is like asking what is the point of video games

 

[SilentProtagonist]

And I repeat:
All the characters on the Marvel side are everything but obscure. They're obscure to people who rub their groins on the 90s X-Men cartoon.

You want some pepper with that salt?

edit:
Also there are plenty of good reasons for people the rub their groins on the 90s X-Men cartoon.

Mmmmm.

 

[GatorBait]

I actually think Capcom could make Gambit a fairly unique and effective character if they expanded on his Vega-like wall jumps that he had in MvC2. The Strider wall cling move has shown me that they can create some nice mixups with those types of moves in MvC3. Just a copy/paste from MvC2 would be kind of ass though.

X with all his special moves and/or armor could be very unique, too. That shouldn't even be an argument.

I don't trust Capcom to make an interesting Venom though. Mainly based on their M.O. of making MvC2 characters largely copy/pastes from MvC2 (either to save time, appease the MvC2 fanbase, or both). I'd be down with Anti-Venom, Spec Ops Venom, or Carnage (not happening for same reasons as MvC2 Brock Venom though), if it meant they went back to the drawing board with a fresh take on a symbiote character.

They've got a weird idea of fanservice when it comes to the X-men. Only one is truly new generation and several of them may put people off when they even hear the word X-men. Also, once you start taking out characters like Deadpool it goes from 1/4th of Marvel's roster to 1/5th. Not nearly as bad as people make it look.

I'm saying that their choices for reps on the X-men side were just weird considering how strongly they try to promote their other newer characters.

Ok, I feel. However, not every choice on the roster is for promotional purposes. Some are, but not every one. I think we can all agree on that. They have three of the "core" favorites for X-men: Wolverine, Storm, and Magneto (probably a joint decision by both Capcom and Marvel), a pick for modern fans/promotional pick (Marvel pick), a wish list character/gameplay pick (Capcom pick), and an MvC2 fanservice pick (Capcom pick). You can't blame it all on Marvel.

I was originally excluding Deadpool from X-men affiliated characters, but also only talking about number of on-disk characters (i.e. 6 out of 24 characters). Tomato, tomatoe.

 

[Seven Force]

Was this Niitsuma interview posted?

Things of note:

- Rocket Raccoon is a comedic character
- Frank will basically be a Mahvel'd version of his TvC incarnation, similar to VJ & Zero.
- All the new Marvel characters were suggested by Marvel; All of the Capcom characters were fan requests
- Capcom had to consult with the ESRB with how Nemesis could be implemented
- DLC aside from costumes planned (Probably just talking about HvH, though)
- Intended to be the definitive version of MvC3

 

[SolarPowered]

Imagine. Capcom puts in one of the most popular Street Fighter characters, Ken, into the game. He ends up getting an entirely new moveset because Capcom wants to have diversity. Now, what would happen?
Exactly.

People won't care as long as he plays well. People wouldn't be so pissed about Jill if she weren't DLC and hard to figure out at the same time. DLC, hard to play and unusual version choice was a triple threat that guaranteed salt, buddy. Put Gambit and Venom in this game with big cosmetic changes/mechanic changes and I'll main those mofos if they actually jive with my way of playing the game.

Also, the bit about 90s fans is not a very nice thing to say, Mr. Salty.

I don't trust Capcom to make an interesting Venom though. Mainly based on their M.O. of making MvC2 characters largely copy/pastes from MvC2 (either to save time, appease the MvC2 fanbase, or both). I'd be down with Anti-Venom, Spec Ops Venom, or Carnage (not happening for same reasons as MvC2 Brock Venom though), if it meant they went back to the drawing board with a fresh take on a symbiote character.

Most MvC2 vets have turned out pretty good for the most part and Strider is looking mighty fine too.

 

[Professor Beef]

You want some pepper with that salt?

 

[DR2K]

Hence I'm not proposing ONLY obscure characters being chosen.
I said, and I repeat:
I prefer obscure characters that bring new gameplay to the table over popular characters that wouldn't.

Imagine. Marvel allows Capcom to use Venom. They put in the current rendition of Venom, who is essentially a super-powered SpecOps. NOT Eddie Brock. Now, what would happen?
Exactly.

Imagine. Capcom puts in one of the most popular Street Fighter characters, Ken, into the game. He ends up getting an entirely new moveset because Capcom wants to have diversity. Now, what would happen?
Exactly.

And I repeat:
All the characters on the Marvel side are everything but obscure. They're obscure to people who rub their groins on the 90s X-Men cartoon. But they are not obscure in general. They're all characters with decades of history, with the exception of X-23 who has been a very important and popular NEW character.
The only truly obscure character is Shuma-Gorath.




Are you starting to have problems comprehending text or something over your salt?

The reading comprehension is your issue. I just said that in Jill's case it was a bad change. (plus this is an much less popular version of Jill). If the character alterations are good, then complaints would not be made. Example: Morrigan.

They're obscure in terms of mainstream appeal, which is why Marvel is trying to promote them.

 

[Anth0ny]

- All the new Marvel characters were suggested by Marvel; All of the Capcom characters were fan requests

lol

Marvel sucks

 

[DR2K]

lol

Marvel sucks

Firebrand was hardly a fan request though.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

Finally, someone posted the Phoenix Wright Turnabout theme!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP9PoBlFDp4

EPIC!!

That is fucking amazing. Want.

 

[Crocodile]

Can you think of a popular character who would play like MODOK?
Can you name me a popular personality who would be any like Amaterasu?
Can you tell me someone popular who could play like Dormammu?

Knowing Gambit and Venom well - Gambit would bring one single new concept to the table: A polearm as main weapon. But there's a lot of other characters who could use polearms and be so much more interesting with other novel concepts. Dark form? We already got Phoenix, Dante, Vergil, etc. Or do you think he would change his moveset? There we have someone like Phoenix Wright or Amaterasu.

Venom? What does he have interesting? Tendrils? Other than that, he doesn't really have anything that makes him specifically unique.

Mega Man, yes, he could've been interesting. But I don't really care much for him.

I'm not saying that popular characters are bad choices in general. I'm just saying that obscure(r) characters have a lot of potential as well, and you shouldn't shit on the developers or the people in charge of one half of the roster for choosing something that is a bit less known in order to show off new movesets or characters that are vital part of their history AND offer good gameplay options.

Few people are upset with who is in but rather who us out. At least from my understanding. I will reiterate, as others like Anthony have said, there is no reason you can't have gameplay AND name. Saying "either, or" is a false dichotomy. Lets also not pretend at least 50% of game sales aren't largely due to the names and IP.

Overall, this REALLY sounds like, "The people I like got in so I'm happy" rather than any sort of objective argument. Which is fine, but just recognize you don't really have a "high ground" so to speak of.

Yea, but if they changed these characters other than very slight changes, people are going to bitch again.
Case in point: Jill.

Almost everyone is throwing hissy fits about her not being the MvC2 incarnation. Venom, Cyclops and Gambit would have to have pretty much everything they had in MvC2 at the very least, and then some.

I'm pretty sure this has more to do with people not liking RE5 Jill (a HUGE departure from every incarnation of the character) in general rather than her being different than MvC2 Jill. Its more akin to using the version of Magneto from that old FF cartoon that gets tricked by wooded guns than adding/deleting/tweaking moves. NOBODY seems upset that they are using the modern design of Storm as opposed to the version near all videogamers are more familiar with for example. Anyway, most people would MUCH rather have their favorite character in even if they were different than before than not have them in at all.

And I repeat:
All the characters on the Marvel side are everything but obscure. They're obscure to people who rub their groins on the 90s X-Men cartoon. But they are not obscure in general. They're all characters with decades of history, with the exception of X-23 who has been a very important and popular NEW character.
The only truly obscure character is Shuma-Gorath.

Can you avoid saying inflammatory things like this? We are on a video game forum. Most of these characters are obscure to US. No matter how many years of comic book history they may have, they have little to no history outside that medium. There is no failing on our part. Accept that.

 

[Karsticles]

Firebrand was hardly a fan request though.

My vote is worth thousands.

 

[Seven Force]

Firebrand was hardly a fan request though.

I assume Firebrand was the exception there, since we've already heard the reason for his inclusion from him before.

 

[Oldschoolgamer]

Things of note:
- Rocket Raccoon is a comedic character

He should be fun to use. They nailed Phoenix Wright and Deadpool's demeanor, so I have no doubt in my mind that they'll do him justice.

 

[DR2K]

He should be fun to use. They nailed Phoenix Wright and Deadpool's demeanor, so I have no doubt in my mind that they'll do him justice.

Comedic as in funny or comedic as in Roll tier?