UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
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it says something about charging stars floatiness lowered. does that mean it hits lower? honzo gonzo pulled off tasks combos when he played ultimate. it looked like it still dealt good damage so i'm not too worried.Zissou said:I'm not sure- it might mean air time, but fighting game vocab is outside the my range of expertise, so I'm guessing on certain things
It means hang time, how long it stays afloat in the air when it activates.
Posted the other character changes on previous page and updated the changelog with Thor/Taskmaster stuff.
Also it sounds to me like they changed Iron Man's Repulsor Blast/Spread command inputs to just "Add L/M/H" as well as fixed when Iron Man crosses himself up during the Repulsor Spread.
We got Spider Man changes:
+ Web Zip is faster overall
+ Web Zip can now OTG
+ Able to cancel Web Swing, Web Ball, and Web Sting with Web Zip (Iffy Trans.)
+ You can now perform an air Web Swing from a ground Web Swing.
- Web Throw's damage now scales if used during a combo.
? All frames in Crawler Assault have been reduced. (Iffy Trans.)
+Crawler Assault causes hard knockdown.
? Ultimate Web Throw's horizontal attack range has been modified. (Iffy Trans.)
+ Crawler Assault is Mashable
+ Ultimate Web Throw can cause more damage and hits if you mash the directional buttons. (Not quite sure if that's what Rebagacha means but Ultimate Web Throw is mashable now.)
Posted the other character changes on previous page and updated the changelog with Thor/Taskmaster stuff.
Sounds to me like when you hot someone with Charging Star it doesn't float them in the air as long. Probably less hit stun from it so less time to convert it into a combo.
Also it sounds to me like they changed Iron Man's Repulsor Blast/Spread command inputs to just "Add L/M/H" as well as fixed when Iron Man crosses himself up during the Repulsor Spread.
We got Spider Man changes:
+ Web Zip is faster overall
+ Web Zip can now OTG
+ Able to cancel Web Swing, Web Ball, and Web Sting with Web Zip (Iffy Trans.)
+ You can now perform an air Web Swing from a ground Web Swing.
- Web Throw's damage now scales if used during a combo.
? All frames in Crawler Assault have been reduced. (Iffy Trans.)
+Crawler Assault causes hard knockdown.
? Ultimate Web Throw's horizontal attack range has been modified. (Iffy Trans.)
+ Crawler Assault is Mashable
+ Ultimate Web Throw can cause more damage and hits if you mash the directional buttons. (Not quite sure if that's what Rebagacha means but Ultimate Web Throw is mashable now.)
Wolverine
-dive kick and and jumping L have hit box nerfs
-Beserker slash has had its invincibility removed
-His new move is machine gun claw
-The command input for beserker slash is now the lowest for any hyper combo(???)
-Beserker barrage, fatal claw, and weapon x are all mashable
-dive kick and and jumping L have hit box nerfs
-Beserker slash has had its invincibility removed
-His new move is machine gun claw
-The command input for beserker slash is now the lowest for any hyper combo(???)
-Beserker barrage, fatal claw, and weapon x are all mashable
? You mean Berserker Charge (the power up hyper).
No it does not deal more damage... they all do the same damage as before (more or less). Very few hypers actually do more damage than their MVC3 counterparts.
Also this is a HUGE NERF to Wolverine:
No more instant over head j.L with Wolverine makes me a very sad panda.
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Zissou said:
I don't get the way the nerfed Phoenix in Ultimate. Instead of nerfing her annoying/disliked Dark form directly they indrectly nerf it by making her normal mode less viable.
Wouldn't they want to make her normal form more desirable and her dark phoenix less so?
It's too bad because I enjoy the character except for the dark phoenix > whole other team part.
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・重量が軽すぎた為、重く。
・しゃがみ弱を連打不能に。
・しゃがみ強の移動距離を減少。
・サヴェッジスウィングを追加。
・クラウチングから一定時間コマンドを入力しないとスーパーアーマー状態のチャリオットが発動するように。
・クラウチングからのトーピードレシーブへの派生を速く。
・クラウチングからのクローズラインへの派生を速く。
・トーピードレシーブのヒット時に相手の吹き飛び距離を遠くへ。
・クローズラインの空中ヒット時を壁バウンドに。
・エメラルドキャノンを前に移動するように。
・レバガチャヒット数アップ：クリミナルランドリー
can you do her next?
・重量が軽すぎた為、重く。
・しゃがみ弱を連打不能に。
・しゃがみ強の移動距離を減少。
・サヴェッジスウィングを追加。
・クラウチングから一定時間コマンドを入力しないとスーパーアーマー状態のチャリオットが発動するように。
・クラウチングからのトーピードレシーブへの派生を速く。
・クラウチングからのクローズラインへの派生を速く。
・トーピードレシーブのヒット時に相手の吹き飛び距離を遠くへ。
・クローズラインの空中ヒット時を壁バウンドに。
・エメラルドキャノンを前に移動するように。
・レバガチャヒット数アップ：クリミナルランドリー
can you do her next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoErnZ5eT98
anybody see crosscounter live? funny moment here with killerkai and gootecks. twotecks?
anybody see crosscounter live? funny moment here with killerkai and gootecks. twotecks?
They are making Dark Phoenix difficult to get to by making system wide changes.Lord Phol said:
*Reduced meter gain on combos and on hit
*No more salty ball spaming or trap spamming (this applies to Dark Phoenix as well)
*Other moves/TAC that steal meter
*Snap backs changed and it takes longer for opponent to tag out/use assists again
*Reduced Phoenix health means she instantly dies by the hand of ALL LVL3s except I think Zero's
Also Dark Phoenix herself is also nerfed because any nerf that applies to regular Phoenix applies to DP as well (like reduced Slide range). LVL3 XF duration, damage and speed for DP is reduced. The creation of her feathers might have been nerfed too (F Champ was talking about how they are no longer an infinite block string and someone like Sentinel can counter it with his 3 hit super armor cr.M).
you know i don't mind doom buffs if only they countered it with a meter building nerf. i know they did an across the board meter building nerf but they need to nerf his meter building a tiny bit more if they are going to give him all those tools. it still seems stupid to me that capcom gave so many easy meter building characters powerful lvl 3 hyper combos.
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Thanks for the translations, Zissou.
But that applies to everyone. He still shouldn't get a quadruple relaunch when so many characters can't do stuff like that anymore (including Taskmaster, Magneto, Dante, Zero etc.).smurfx said:
Meter building nerf affects Phoenix players, Dante, Magneto, Viper, Zero and any other character who had insanely long combos. It does affect Doom a bit but not terribly so. The thing is that now he can get to his longer combos easier with his throw game, dive kick and faster movement. They should have nerfed his combos a bit and then I would've been fine with it.
BTW Zissou if you get stuck with any changelog description you can refer to the GAF changelog as many stuff will over lap so you can double confirm it:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31784102&postcount=583
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31784148&postcount=588
Lord Phol
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Dahbomb said:
Okey that makes a bit more sense then, thanks for explaining.
I would still have liked to see more direct nerfs to DP instead of nerfing things around her.
But at least with all those things combined people will hopefully put some more thought about having her on their team or not.
She-hulk (sorry, dahbomb, I'm a she-hulk player)!
-she's a heavyweight, so her weight (presumably fall speed) has been increased
-crouching light range had been nerfed
-Crouching heavy slide distance had been decreased
-She got a new move (Japanese name: savage wing? Wtf?
-when crouching, you must chariot cancel with specific timing to get one hit of super armor (?)
-when crouching, the time it takes to get torpedo has been made faster (?)
-If you hit clothesline hits on an aerial opponent, you are more free (?)
- Emerald cannon moves you forward
-Criminal laundry (taking out the trash, lol) is mashable
-she's a heavyweight, so her weight (presumably fall speed) has been increased
-crouching light range had been nerfed
-Crouching heavy slide distance had been decreased
-She got a new move (Japanese name: savage wing? Wtf?
-when crouching, you must chariot cancel with specific timing to get one hit of super armor (?)
-when crouching, the time it takes to get torpedo has been made faster (?)
-If you hit clothesline hits on an aerial opponent, you are more free (?)
- Emerald cannon moves you forward
-Criminal laundry (taking out the trash, lol) is mashable
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smurfx said:
People are exaggerating Doom's buffs wayyyyyy too much. The only really big buff he has gotten is a new Wolverine-like dive kick, but it's not like you can spam it mindlessly all day and expect to win. His basic problems still remains, he has the worst ground dash in the game which makes his ground game poor, he needs to rely on his hopping which has been nerfed a bit in UMvC3, he is still rather limited character for DHCs, ground Proton Array is still the worst hyper in this game..... he's moving up the tier list but it's not like he's going to be the new Wolverine or Phoenix, not a lot of people are going to be good with him, so I don't understand why people are complaining about his buffs.
Here are Iron Man's changes from the previous changelog for comparison:
The new stuff I found on the site was talk about Repulsor Blast/Spread command input changed so that you only have to press a single button for Spread (like Dante's change). Also there was talk about Iron Man's j.S which sounded like better priority or different property but don't know for sure.
The new stuff I found on the site was talk about Repulsor Blast/Spread command input changed so that you only have to press a single button for Spread (like Dante's change). Also there was talk about Iron Man's j.S which sounded like better priority or different property but don't know for sure.
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Hasn't USD done translations for the Street Fighter changelogs?SephirothRK said:
Edit: Apparently he knows already.
IntelliHeath
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Thor's changelog is very delicious!
Karsticles said:
With the way zoning is buffed, the nerf to air dashes, and the fact that Zeros teleports are completely unsafe, im not so sure hes gonna be that much more popular. Will be interesting. I still expect guys like Taskmaster, and Dormamamu to be the more popular choices.
Zissou said:
・重量が軽すぎた為、重く。
・しゃがみ弱を連打不能に。
・しゃがみ強の移動距離を減少。
・サヴェッジスウィングを追加。
・クラウチングから一定時間コマンドを入力しないとスーパーアーマー状態のチャリオットが発動するように。
・クラウチングからのトーピードレシーブへの派生を速く。
・クラウチングからのクローズラインへの派生を速く。
・トーピードレシーブのヒット時に相手の吹き飛び距離を遠くへ。
・クローズラインの空中ヒット時を壁バウンドに。
・エメラルドキャノンを前に移動するように。
・レバガチャヒット数アップ：クリミナルランドリー
- yep, she's heavier now, whatever that means
- crouching L can't be chained anymore
- crouching H's range has been reduced
- lamp post move is Savage Swing
- I think it says if you don't input any following command, Chariot will have super armor
- Cancelling into Torpedo from Chariot is faster (??)
- Cancelling into Clothesline from Chariot is faster (??)
- Opponent flies farther away when hit by Torpedo
- Clothesline causes wall bounce if hit opponent on air
- Emerald Cannon moves you forward
- Taking Out the Trash is mashable but you have to move the lever not press buttons.
Everything will probably be translated today in CU, so we'll have a better idea.
Man, they didn't do too much good with Spider-Man, luckily not too much bad either - shame about the web throw scaling, but fair is fair I guess.
The only real change I actually wanted was for Web Swing to go back to just QCB like it always used to be in the previous VS games, but they seem set in thinking that it will screw up with his other motions.
The only real change I actually wanted was for Web Swing to go back to just QCB like it always used to be in the previous VS games, but they seem set in thinking that it will screw up with his other motions.
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Dahbomb said:
I saw that someone mention homing death penalty which is awesome news for me.
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They nerfed Magnus even more? ;_________________;
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Road said:
urgh
Fuckin Capcom
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Dahbomb said:
I think it might. Also if torpedo made opponent flies farther away then reset launcher might not work.
Who know.
Your build is different though. In your build Wesker is 1 million but in NYCC and later builds he is 900K. Also the glasses thing work differently. So it wasn't a crack at you... I mean so many people missed out on Chun Li's OTG while attending NYCC. Plus other stuff took priority... not enough people cared about checking Sentinel ESPECIALLY armor on aerial moves.Jintor said:well sooooorrrrrry
IntelliHeath
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Dahbomb said:
I wonder if it is in final build instead of nycc build.
I noticed some people played sentinel at NYCC, so they never notice it in first place. Which is very odd.
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Have there ever even been characters with Super amor on aerial moves?
Dahbomb said:
I don't think it'll make a huge difference. The hitbox was huge already, and led to so much damage that most people didn't bother to snuff it because of the risk involved. It may has well have been armored.
I can't access the site. Are Dante, Wesker, or Morrigan changes listed?