Red Arremer
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Mr Touchdown said:Seriously? No reveals yet!?
GOD DAMMIT CAPCOM!!!!!!
I even slept and everything
It should be 3 more hours.
MarvelGAF. I have decided differently. Let me grab my energy drink.
UMVC3: Phoenix Wright and Nova Revealed!
- Thread starter IntelliHeath
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It should be 3 more hours.
MarvelGAF. I have decided differently. Let me grab my energy drink.
RuinerPrime
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Becquerel said::lol, thanks, but...
I'll switch my avatar to something entirely different after the trailers hit.
dang i got
Mr Touchdown
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Okay, WTF why have everyones avatars changed?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Becquerel said::lol, thanks, but...
I'll switch my avatar to something entirely different after the trailers hit.
Edit:
Wait, the time's 10 AM in Japan right now? So 3 more hours till that conference thingie?
WELL THANK GOD I HAVE A CAN OF MONSTER IN MY FRIDGE.
Just take a hour nap then you should be full of energy right?
Red Arremer
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IntelliHeath said:
That might end up fatal.
SolarPowered
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aww shitLulubop said:
I honestly don't know the who, what, where, when and why of it all. There are several games that were released extremely quickly, but what I do know is there were a lot of pretty new mechanics in the games for their time. Pushblock is there in the form of tech hits, air guards are there, meter using specials are there(buffed specials), and all kind of crazy mechanics are also in the game(Thanos' bubble probably came from Rikuo/Q Bee's moves and Hsien-Ko's mobility in a fifteen year old game surpasses that of most pixies in MvC3).enzo_gt said:
I can't even begin to figure out who was responsible for what, but it was nearly the perfect storm(Vagina tax hit the females HARD in this game). Probably one of the best fighters they've ever made(SF3 gets top billing obviously).
I think that Niitsuma's team could handle it, honestly. I just get really pissed about their current approach is all. I don't think that anyone else at Capcom should touch it though. Ono can stay the hell away from this game as far as I am concerned.enzo_gt said:
I could totally see ASW making a decent game if given the chance. I don't think they'd purposefully manufacture tiers and they've got more experience with unconventional characters(I think some of the staff that worked on Darkstalkers also moved to work on Guilty Gear too). Reverge labs is doing so much right that I would actually enjoy it if they took a stab at the series as well. A DS game from them would have a much lighter tone, but it would still be DS at the core with solid characters being designed all around.
If they try to make anything a comeback mechanic it should be the health regenerating system. It was pretty unique for it's time and I can't think of any modern fighter where healing takes place while you fight(outside of XF lol) with every character. Maybe buff Dark Forces a bit and tweak the healing system so that it works faster and regenerates a bit more.enzo_gt said:
The game's core doesn't need much outside of a huge visual overhaul(HD 3D models obviously), great online options and fun modes(tag team options and 2v2 options).
kunonabi
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I don't trust anyone with Darkstalkers at this point. The SFIV team is certainly incapable that is for damn sure.
Arksys might not terrible since they have some of the old staff but their animation is far too shitty to even consider for a Darkstalkers title.
I guess Nitsuma's team is the best choice purely be default. Visually the DS characters made a better transition to MVC3 than I thought they would. They don't seem to have any clue as to what do with them from a gameplay standpoint though. Felicia turned out ok but Lei-Lei is awful and they don't seem to have any real direction with Morrigan.
Arksys might not terrible since they have some of the old staff but their animation is far too shitty to even consider for a Darkstalkers title.
I guess Nitsuma's team is the best choice purely be default. Visually the DS characters made a better transition to MVC3 than I thought they would. They don't seem to have any clue as to what do with them from a gameplay standpoint though. Felicia turned out ok but Lei-Lei is awful and they don't seem to have any real direction with Morrigan.
Red Arremer
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kunonabi said:
I think that's mostly because it's MvC not Darkstalkers. For most characters from fighting games, that means buffs, but for Darkstalkers, that means getting toned down a bit, lol. Character transfers don't really work easily, and it appears that the vision Niitsuma had for Hsien-Ko's Mahvel iteration just doesn't work as well as it did in Darkstalkers.
I too think that if anyone is capable of handling a remake of Darkstalkers, it would be Niitsuma and his team. MvC3 is an amazing game, pretty much regarding everything. Aside from the whole "lul vanilla was a beta thing", the game's great, and Niitsuma and his team have been doing a very fine job balancing vanilla originally, and especially Ultimate. Of course, there's always gonna be some questionable decisions and characters who're being left in the dust, but overall? I think Ultimate is going to be one of the most balanced games we've seen so far.
They also made the visuals flashy as hell, and the sound/music is great.
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smurfx said:
Rumoredly ~2 more hours.
IntelliHeath
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For me, Wolverine and X-Men.smurfx said:
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The FGC has come a really long way haha.Sickboy007 said:
MvC3 is a clear example of favoritism going completely out of control. This game would've lost it's luster way too quickly had a sequel not been announced. The mid and lower level players can't handle the dumb shit in this game like the pros can and the reactions to characters like Phoenix, Wolverine and the remaining top tier are proof of that.Becquerel said:
Pretty much everyone that defended the hell out of the game at the start is now reluctantly admitting that the tools given to the god tier were over the top and it definitely hurt the game in the eyes of non high level players. MvC3 has had it's moments, but it is an extremely flawed game from that standpoint in particular. Whether or not the same problem will repeat itself with Ultimate remains to be seen, but it looks likely. The only saving grace is the fact that the overall system is not as stupid as before.
SolarKnight
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I just got back from the tourney (got totally blown up in Mahvel btw)...what the hell is going on here.
Red Arremer
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Randomly stumbled over this comic page, felt like sharing it cause it's fun.
IntelliHeath
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Becquerel said:Randomly stumbled over this comic page, felt like sharing it cause it's fun.
I wonder who called them. :lol
SolarKnight
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Deadpool is offering his services to everyone there =P
Red Arremer
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IntelliHeath said:
It's Deadpool, as revealed in the last panel.
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Is that Mephisto? LOL
Deadpool was calling all of them. His final call for a job was Iron Man.IntelliHeath said:
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SolarPowered said:
Yea, apparently the hell has phones.
That's my favorite panel of all, haha.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Becquerel said:It's Deadpool, as revealed in the last panel.
Geez (SMH)
I thought someone called deadpool and he would trolling them with wrong number excuse.
SolarKnight
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Becquerel said:Yea, apparently the hell has phones.
That's my favorite panel of all, haha.
lol, yeah. The only one that could've been more wtf was if he somehow ended up calling Shuma XD
IntelliHeath
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SolarKnight said:
Or Sentinel. Who would call Sentinel. :lol
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
IntelliHeath said:
ENGAGE PROTOCOL: ACCEPT COLLECT CALL
RESPONSE: DENIED
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Mephisto(Blackheart's father would be ridiculous) should totally be in this game along with Thanos(throwback). This might happen seeing as they fall more on the comic side of things for Marvel.Becquerel said:Yea, apparently the hell has phones.
That's my favorite panel of all, haha.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It will be just happens just like this picture tonight when there is no reveal. Honestly, I started to doubt now.
Back to my old prediction, this monday! OUR HALLOWEEN DAY!
Red Arremer
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SolarPowered said:
There's still a LOT of classic villains to draw from, and most of them have almost limitless potential. Mephisto, Thanos, Loki, Red Skull, most Brotherhood mutants, Apocalypse, Spidey's rogues gallery... there's so many, lol.
Red Arremer
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~1.5 hours till doomsday.
I already have my avatar ready in case no reveals happen today.
I already have my avatar ready in case no reveals happen today.
Red Arremer
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JazzmanZ said:it's not like you guys can wait a extra day or two if they dont show up tonight
I'VE BEEN COCKBLOCKED SINCE NYCC AND BEEN TEASED BY CHRIS AND SETH. I DESERVE THAT REVEAL. NAO.
Red Arremer
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Also, I've been like, one of the main reasons why the Rocky hype has been kept up. Capcom should PAY me!
IntelliHeath
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Becquerel said:
Oh don't get me start on theoryfighting again.
There are many potential villains.
Loki
Sandman
Thanos
Green Goblin
Ultron
Executioner
Carnage
Doctor Octopus
Mephisto
Mr. Sinister
Red Arremer
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JazzmanZ said:
SSBB, as much as I loved the Dojo hype, never was even close to this level of hype for me.
Well, I never got that Ridley reveal. So...
IntelliHeath
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Becquerel said:
For me, Takamaru, Isaac, Little Mac and Laughing Dog.
Who are Reverge labs?SolarPowered said:
I agree with kunonabi said here, Darkstalkers translated REALLY well into MvC3 and looked fantastic. Niitsuma's team did an ace job with that. I think the engine would be very good for DS too.SolarPowered said:
This is a good analysis, but noooooooo waaaaaaaaay is it looking likely UMvC3 will be broken as shit in the way MvC3 was. It's true though, MvC3 would've fizzled out in current Phoenix metagame. Looking quite less likely IMO with them attacking the problems dead on. Any side affects of the countermeasures may be a problem though (for instance, if meter stealing/building moves are abused in the new environment through glitches).SolarPowered said:
Gonna require a source for this. He probably has ideas, I doubt they've put much work into it.CPS2 said:
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Let's face it really, Hsien-Ko was a fucking horrible choice for the cast from the start. From the reveal to this day I wonder... why Lei Lei? Even if you, by obligation, had to choose a 3rd Darkstalker, Lei Lei is a terrible fit for MvC3's battle system. No amount of balancing could fix that incompatibility.
I don't know...maybe I'm in the minority here (I don't think I am?), but I thought MvC3 was a pretty well-balanced game considering all the variables that have to go into balancing a 36 character MvC roster. A very large portion of the cast had proved to be tournament viable. Wolverine and Phoenix were the only two S-tier characters that really demanded heavy nerfs (and part of their overpowered nature was a direct result of how effectively they could leverage X-factor - which is another of the many balance variables the team had to take into consideration).SolarPowered said:
All things considered, they did a pretty damn good job on their first shot, especially with the rushed release date the team had to accommodate. Simply nerfing Wolverine and Phoenix, ironing out X-factor bonuses, and buffing zoning would have really rounded out the balance of the roster, but we are getting that and some other good-sounding balance tweaks in Ultimate. There are indeed some questionable balance changes (Doom, Zero, Wesker, for example), but I don't foresee any of the cast jumping up to Wolverine/Phoenix level S-tier now.
I could realistically see UMvC3 as having ~30 tournament viable characters, with the remainder being characters who are still highly usable at all skill levels below tournament-level, and a small handful of ass-tier characters (who will probably still be usable at mid-to-low level play). That's pretty damn good, in my book. There probably won't be many, if any, characters that are useless at all levels of play like there was in MvC2.
IntelliHeath
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Mo the Hawk said:
I don't hence my prediction on friday or monday (halloween) I just go along with the hype.
Also I was led on by those emails.
JazzmanZ said:
Don't tell me that you can't come up with moveset for him? O_O