GravityInsanity
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lol I think Naughty Dog just did it better. Plus, it really didn't feel like a QTE at all.
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End |OT| You're gonna miss this ass
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Vire
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Yes! 100% yes about the bolded. This is the reason why it's a much better game than Uncharted 3.
Equanimity
Member
So I finished the game about 20 minutes ago. My favourite game of the generation so far and probably amoung the top 3 ever.
Vire
Member
Because it's not a QTE at all?
plasmawave
Banned
The Order's final boss was a rehash of an earlier "boss" encounter.
In UC4 you have to at least watch your enemy movement to see which button to press while The Order had on-screen prompt to tell you which button to hit.
timmyp53
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It's not on the rails. You are sparring and reading the oppenent to counter. They don't force one option to counter. You fail base on how you read their stance/attack. It's really well done in my opinion. I only wish it wasn't the first use of it in the game.
SRTtoZ
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Exactly. Its not really QTE, they tell you which button does what and then it lets you do your own thing. It was an amazing boss fight once Drake gets the cutlass and if you stick your moves right.
M
Macapala
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If you liked the boss fight, that's fine.
But no matter how you look at it, it is a QTE boss fight, whether the prompts show on the screen or not. Seems like a bit of a double standard to me.
potatohead
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It's absolutely a QTE, but it's a well done QTE.
Hellwarden
Member
I feel like the first eight chapters are really awkwardly paced.
After that, it settles into a pretty good groove.
After that, it settles into a pretty good groove.
Vire
Member
In video games, a quick time event (QTE) is a method of context-sensitive gameplay in which the player performs actions on the control device shortly after the appearance of an on-screen instruction/prompt. It allows for limited control of the game character during cut scenes or cinematic sequences in the game.
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There are no on screen prompts of which button to press and you still retain direction control of the character. When I personally think QTE, I think of losing full control of the character and it being transitioned into some quasi cutscene moment similar to the end of Halo 4 where the game tells me to hit the X button and I watch a big explosion happen.
The perfect Dark
Banned
What am I reading? TLOU had better characters than Uncharted? Nate and Sully > Joel and Ellie. TLOU is a great game but Uncharted will always be the superior series for me.
Vire
Member
Once you beat the game you can view a lot of the concept art and most of the time, the actual game looks better.
bananafactory
Banned
There is
2 block and 1 attack buttons. How is this different than parrying in a Souls game?
You can execute your moves at will and they're assigned to a button. Like R2 is shoot.
It's a valid opinion, for one because Nate and Sully's relationship has been written horribly with U3, and some of that damage can't be undone. Also, none of the Uncharted characters had the amount of dimensions to their personality and background as I believe Joel and Ellie did, but that's just an opinion. Joel and Ellie's relationship reminds me of Nate and Sully, but it's better written, deeper and more explored, and extremely unique for video games.
WrenchNinja
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These last few levels and encounters remind me of Uncharted 1's final level and Navarro's bullshit gun that can tear through anything
timmyp53
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I don't think he actually played the game/part yet.
xXCrazyCostaXX
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When it says to save on step 7 is this to the file you just created, to the original, or a new save?
To the file you just created.
GravityInsanity
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TimeEffect
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Youve had like 4 games to develop a fondness for Nate and Sully
In fact, it's because of this that UC4 feels sad at all. It ends, and it's a goodbye. But the emotional stuff in the game doesnt touch Last of Us. They tried too hard to bring in LoU's emotional slower pacing, and it doesnt work here.
xXCrazyCostaXX
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Okay that's what I did. Watching credits now so hopefully it pops
Sounds like it but I don't think this is a glitch that will be patched out. It's by design which is cool imo. It's sort of a Newgame+ to me.
Starting my Crushing run with bonuses right now.
Holy shit, really? I can't wait. At Chapter 15 right now. Trying to take my time.
Like, look at these shots that I took. This is IN GAME. LIKE, WHAT?!?!?!? Incredible.
xenorevlis
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This so much. Had to share my feels.
SRTtoZ
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Holy shit, really? I can't wait. At Chapter 15 right now. Trying to take my time.
Like, look at this goddamn shot that I took. Incredible.
dem black bars tho ;_;
potatohead
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Dude, it's a QTE.
First of all, there is an on-screen prompt at the start.
Second, it is still a QTE even without the prompts. Just because you can post a Wikipedia definition (which means nothing in the first place) is pretty irrelevant. They are saying generically what a typical QTE is like, which for most games, that is what they look like. But again, what a QTE is, meaning what is a context-sensitive action, simply means you press a button within a certain framework of time (or not, it doesn't have to be within a certain time). You press Circle, or Triangle, and there is a specific window of time to press these buttons.
Third, there are QTEs in RE4 where you still have analog control of the player. But they are still QTEs e.g. dodging the tree swipe of the big ogre dude. It's still a QTE. It is a context-sensitive action in which you have a limited time to press the appropriate buttons. QTE.
It's a QTE. It seems "not" like a QTE, because it is more abstracted since the animation is so damn good, and yes you're still controlling the analog movement (which has literally no bearing on what happens in the fight, except for the fact that you can walk around), but it is *still* a QTE.
It doesn't have to happen in a cutscene, or take away analog control, or any other qualifier you want to invent for the sake of this (pointless) discussion. It's still a QTE and a context-sensitive action that is literally exclusive to this scene.
For the sharpshooter trophy, I tried last night to get it by following those steps and playing through the prologue with 100% accuracy, but since you bring over stats from the previous save file all my previous stats are there and the accuracy isn't at 70%. How'd you get it to work?
plasmawave
Banned
I disagree. They were multiple points in the story that made me choke up. The powerful emotional points were just as strong as TLOU's.
Haha. I kinda like them. It makes it feel more like a shot from a movie.
But the reason its so strong is how much time we had with these characters.
SRTtoZ
Member
Haha. I kinda like them. It makes it feel more like a shot from a movie.
I know I know! I used some of those frames too but it kills me to know that the entire image is there unlike something like 1886. Game is so freaking gorgeous.
The perfect Dark
Banned
What was so bad about the relationship between Nate and Sully in UC3? I loved the beginning. It was a nice reference to Indy 3.
I haven't finished UC4 yet so I can't commend on that. But I agree with the pacing issues.
There is also a prompt in the beginning telling you L2 is for aim and R2 is for shooting, this entire game was one big QTE fest, legit mind blown right now.
xXCrazyCostaXX
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My girlfriend has not seen any of the other Uncharted games and watched me play all the way through this one. She grew very attached to the cast and was very sad when the game ended after us playing after work for 4 days straight. She also watched me play the last of us when it came out and the dlc. She preferred the characters from uncharted. She loves the last of us but found this story and characters to be more up her alley. For me personally I can't tell you if I liked this or the last of us better because I've been playing uncharted for almost a decade so I'm very attached to the franchise. Take it for what you will.
potatohead
Member
Wow.
Right, because the aiming is context sensitive during the whole game. And now that's a QTE.
Amazing logic there. Lol. Jesus Christ you kids. Lmao. Anything for an argument.
Just because the ending is a QTE doesn't make it bad. I enjoyed it, but man you sound very upset that it is, in fact, a QTE.
I'm only halfway through, and a bit mixed on things in terms of pacing, but Ch. 10 (
) is incredible. And I mean, like, cut-it-out-and-you-could-sell-it-for-$20-by-itself incredible. Really meaty mini-adventure with great mechanics and design throughout, between off-roading in the jeep, the semi-open environment, the many hidden alcoves with treasure, the breathtaking views (even by this game's standards), the use of the winch, the best sandbox encounters so far (at least five by my count, with plenty of verticality and stealth and grappling even a zipline!), lots of well-scripted character moments despite the less linear pathfinding, and a few legit surprises. Very well-done. One of my favorite stretches in a videogame.
Madagascar countryside
lol don't be surprised. You knew it was coming. I still laughed when I saw it.
timmyp53
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There isn't a QTE in the beginning it's literally instructions on how to parry. I really don't see how this is much different then an assassins creed sword fight.
Tell me this is parrying in Dark Souls a QTE? Because according to your logic it is, doubt many would consider it though.
I also really wonder what the hell the DLC story is going to be seeing as how this game ends the way it does -- very little room for any additions to it, it feels really complete as a story. I hope it's not more Young Nathan and Young Sam stuff. I hope it's either some kind of side story or it has you playing as
.
Either way, I hope there's more combat arenas and it isn't just something where you walk around and investigate stuff. We need more arenas to make use of the good/amazing combat!
Sam doing work with Sully or something. Or, even Cassie though I kind of doubt that
Either way, I hope there's more combat arenas and it isn't just something where you walk around and investigate stuff. We need more arenas to make use of the good/amazing combat!
Technically it is lol the qte was in games for a long time though they just ended up becoming more visible.
The boss in uncharted 4 is a long quick time event. Doesn't make it any less interesting though I didn't like it.
Death Metalist
Member
Oh man, that ending.
potatohead
Member
Which is also essentially a QTE.
Have any of you played Mark of Kri? The whole fighting in that game is QTE-based. It's quite similar to AC fighting multiple enemies.
It's not a knock on the game.
And someone saying "pressing R2 to shoot" is now a QTE... lol... well you kind of have to aim... and you can shoot whenever you want. Which makes it the opposite of context-sensitive. Do people know what these words mean.. lol.
Yes, it's a QTE. No, you guys don't have to feel bad about it.
Uh.... it kind of is. Enemy goes for a swipe and you counter by pressing a single button to do the parry.
Is it a context-sensitive action? Then yes, it's still kind of a QTE.
Just because it doesn't have a button prompt flying in your face, doesn't mean it is context sensitive.
The parry in Bloodborne is the same with the gun.... if you shoot at the right time while locked on and pressing the right button.... you get a counter opportunity.
nowheretorun
Member
Best boss ending of the series for me - loved it.
Listening to the end credits as I now type.
Many pros and cons to the game. Still weighing it all up in my head.
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@ wadeitout
Drake and Elena need to hire a god damn cleaning lady.
Agreeeeeed pmsl! Or perhaps just pick their shit up!
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