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Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I'm convinced this is just another brilliant performance by Joaquin Phoenix.
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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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I'm convinced this is just another brilliant performance by Joaquin Phoenix.
This is the absolute...and I mean absolute wrong tone to take with the Republicans.
A war? A war with who? Other Americans?
Just effing stop it.
Republicans...what are you doing...Republicans...staph.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
There are whispers of civil war.
I agree with this I don't see much political future for the GOP like 40 years from now. The united states is becoming more left leaning not less there is no denying that and there is no room for that in the GOP. As you said the only solution that is left is for Democratic party to split into a conservative and more liberal faction.
I like how they have a Reagan speech playing in the background of the video
Little too early for this type of prediction.
The mantle of true fiscal conservatism is still up for grabs. If the Republicans can capture that, while dropping the social agenda...it will be a different ball game.
ThatCrazyGuy
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lol. so much fear mongering. I don't get it.
What liberal advances are people are afraid of.
The fast eagle cuts at the end, haha.
This just made my day. The lens flare, close ups, epic music, 'Merican imagery, old recordings playing in the background (Regan!) .
Give this man a Michael Bay award, along with a good talking to about why he is a fear monger and completely incorrect.
Deified Data
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Michael A. Needham.
Needs ham.
The funniest/saddest thing is that those eagles never even agreed to be in someone's propaganda video. He's being portrayed as some sort of harbinger of freedom, but really he's just an everyman type of bird who goes out and picks carcasses just like everyone else. The bald eagle is sort of like an unwitting Joe the Plumber.
HP_Wuvcraft
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"I'm sick of these minorities trying to take jobs from true Americans. And wanting healthcare? They should be happy I give them minimum wage. I could just outsource to China for pennies on the dollar. They should worship me."
Those YT comments.
Just more hidden messages for the next Jared Laughtner, unfortunately. You can't call to battle and then wash your hands of it when people show up at the shopping mall with their right to bear arms and willingness to defend their Constitutions from wimps and pussies and people who don't love America as much as they do.
So stop. Seriously, the Republican party isn't a fiscal conservative party, and the sooner people just stop voting for them the sooner they will drop their base and recreate themselves or the democrats will split in two.
Yes the democrats do elect some liberal people, but I think by and large they tend to elect mostly pretty close to centrists, especially for a national office like the presidency.
Guileless
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The George W. Bush Republican party was not fiscally conservative at all. But have you read the Ryan budget? Or more probably, have you read the horrified reactions to it from the New York Times?
It's the biggest misconception of modern American politics. The Republicans are strong fiscal liberals. The Democrats are fiscal moderates. The only fiscally conservative party in theory is the Libertarian party, and the only recent President in practice was Bill Clinton. Obama may be a repeat.
Do you think I voted Republican this go around?
If you didn't, then good.
Hopefully more stop. I really want to go back to having two real solutions to real problems, not one decent solution to a real problem and a bunch of nutcases denying there's ever been a problem.
Guileless
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Lets not go crazy here guys. There is plenty of ammo to after the Republicans on the budget, but the Democrats are not better. Demagoguing anyone who raises the possibility of entitlement reform, when that is obviously the driver of deficits,is not helpful. Same for public employee unions that are causing cities to go broke.
The balanced budgets of the 90s were the product of bipartisanship from the Bush 1 and Clinton years when each party controlled one branch of government.
The balanced budgets of the 90s were the product of bipartisanship from the Bush 1 and Clinton years when each party controlled one branch of government.
Black Republican
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heliosRAzi
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Cut the military budget and raise taxes. And other stuff, too, obviously.
If you didn't, then good.
Hopefully more stop. I really want to go back to having two real solutions to real problems, not one decent solution to a real problem and a bunch of nutcases denying there's ever been a problem.
I hope, seriously, my hope is that the Republicans actually read the writing on the wall. They were given a GOLDEN opportunity. They can either take a look at what happened, re-invent themselves as true fiscal conservatives, drop the social agenda, and sell their soul to win the latino vote, or they can fruther slide into obsecurity.
Fiscal conservatism plays. It is a real issue. It is a real concern facing this country, but that needs to be the ONLY platform for the Republicans. Not this moral crusade bs. Promote family values? Sure. Actively pass legislation against gays? No way...stop that sheet. Support Abortion? At least admit that health of the mother, rape and incest is allowed and supported. (Though I wish they would take an even more liberal approach, but thats dreamin').
Who knows...but I hope anyway.
You get the hell out of here with a reasonable post.
(Im joking).
Alot more man. Alot.
Here is what needs to be on the table.
(1) Let taxes raise some.
(2) Reform the tax code to offset a straight up percentage hike (limit some loopholes)
(3) Make cuts to Defense
(4) Raise social security age.
(5) Reform entitlement programs to accurately reflect the changing economic landscape of the US. (Not throw people off).
All these things...every one. MUST be on the table.
I hope the Democrats and the Republicans can finally, at long last accomplish this. If they do? Then Obama (if he takes some leadership in this), will be a hero!
"Over the last four years the Conservative movement has grown stronger."
Uh...didn't the events of this last week prove that to be very wrong?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...n-key-and-peele-election-video_n_2094454.html
Key and Peele's Obama concession video
Key and Peele's Obama concession video
Probably old, but there is no such thing as gender gap apparently:
http://boingboing.net/2012/11/08/the-slut-vote.html
Ignatz Mouse
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What an brilliant way to bring women on the left around your side, call'em sluts! That'll do it.
Logic, what is it?
That was so good. Thanks.
Guileless
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Drop in the bucket against the horde of aging fat people who enjoyed decades of high growth, low taxes, and contraception.
R_thanatos
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there is a war in america ?
WickedCobra03
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He speaks.
The president is speaking on National TV right now. Good speech, basically he wants to work on this with everyone on working on the budget before the end of the year.
He classifies himself in the "rich", and doesn't want to let the rich have no tax increase while the general public has a tax hike. Good speech imo.
The president is speaking on National TV right now. Good speech, basically he wants to work on this with everyone on working on the budget before the end of the year.
He classifies himself in the "rich", and doesn't want to let the rich have no tax increase while the general public has a tax hike. Good speech imo.
I didn't say they were. I said I wished the Dems were more fiscally conservative. I don't like paying for stuff that we can't afford and just adding it to the debt. I don't do it in my own life and I don't believe our country should continue to do it.
speculawyer
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Wow. The real gap is the 1950's versus the 21st century gap. But don't tell them. Let them keep losing.
after reading much of the meltdown thread, Civil war threats are maybe just a tad less ludicrous than I believed
RIGHHT???
Like people are salty as shit, buying up weapons and ammo. I mean facebook is merely a reflection of a mindset. Think about the back woods people who haven't had 4 years to figure out the computer.
They must be building their shelters right now.
HerbertFish
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And the market falls 60 points just as we were up as he doesn't sound willing to compromise. Sigh.
The conceptual difference between your budget and a government with a fiat monetary system is astounding. You can't compare the two.
Also, if the dems were more 'fiscally conservative' as you seem to want we'd be in more of a recession right now. Look what happened in Europe. They crashed then adopted austerity and went down again. That doesn't work. If anything Obama and the dems have not spent enough at this time. You absolutely cannot compare governmental spending during a recession, when it NEEDS to be high to spending at other times and flatly say the dems aren't fiscally conservative. In fact, spending went up the slowest it has in decades. That is being fiscally conservative. And, during a time of success the dems started on the track of paying down the debt. Again, that's fiscally conservative.
You already got your wish. The democrats since Reagan have absolutely been to the center or center-right on these issues.
Deified Data
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I fear you may be right.
Obama is in the position to betray his liberal supporters in a royal fashion with his Grand Bargain. To put the burden on the military industrial complex or the middle class? I hope he chooses correctly, but I don't expect him to. I don't expect to have many rational discussions on the Grand Bargain for another couple weeks. Forum's still high on Hopium.
I H8 Memes
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Speaking of Joe the plumber. I was kinda bummed out Romney did not have his own version this cycle. The GOP always seems to find one to carry the mantle.
CHEEZMO
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By "grown stronger" they mean "has gotten more extreme".
Seems the Republican party went from manipulating the "king making" Evangelicals to becoming them. As much as I want to believe that the further right they go, the more irrelevant they become, I'm afraid of how bad it might get for those who are stuck in the super red states.
Really can't see them reforming. In fact, at this point, it seems more likely that a new party will sweep them over.
Really can't see them reforming. In fact, at this point, it seems more likely that a new party will sweep them over.
I'm usually a giant asshole on this subject so I'm just going to link to this 6 minute video that explains why this line is...horrifically misguided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ugDU2qNcyg
eudaemonic
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I really hate people sometimes. That's the answer huh? War instead of working together? Fuck them. I will not lower my compassion and my intolerance of bullshit because they want to piss and moan that their way is the only way.
Thanks
Squirrel Killer
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Really? Who carried their mantle in 2004? Or 2000? Or 1996? Or 1992?
the Blaze has an article chronicling the biggest Democratic party freakouts post the 2004 election
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sta...eak-outs-from-bushs-2004-re-election-victory/
it doesn't help their cause.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sta...eak-outs-from-bushs-2004-re-election-victory/
it doesn't help their cause.
So a question about that video. Early in the video he states Social Security bought US bonds and thus we just owe ourselves.
But I thought the general critique of Soc Sec was that it was funded, but that money was spent on non Soc Sec related items. So we have the liability of paying Soc Sec, but we have already spent the funds that were reserved to pay for it. So yes we owe ourselves the money, but we are going to have to fund it out of the future income ( lack of a better word ) instead of just pulling it out of Soc Sec trusts ( ... I think they are trusts.. ).
I apologize if I am grossly incorrect.
Thanks.
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