Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Very very low chance.
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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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Very very low chance.
Karma Kramer
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Because they can only vote on the people who got electoral votes for that position, I believe.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
But the Green Party is just the Democratic Party that doesn't compromise on anything.
Ignis Fatuus
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The mirror image of the Tea Party.
Karma Kramer
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lol wat
How about the D's and R's compromise on electoral reform or allowing their "comrades" voice their opinion in the national debates. You must be joking.
We live under a corporate government, the ideals of FDR have long been dead in the Democratic party.
Karma Kramer
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Lol Seriously? One is a grass roots party and one is funded by wealthy individuals...
This country is fucked.
How much mainstream news coverage does the green party get compared to the tea party?
The House will be the one electing President.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
What do you mean, "lol wat." The Green Party just has the same policy goals as the Democratic party but for the fact that since it doesn't hold any offices, it can feel free to hold untenable positions like drastically cutting military funding.
Green party is just the democrats as an ideal. The only reason they can exist at that ideal is because they don't have to actually exist within our system. They don't have to compromise. They don't have to get any legislation deals done. They don't have to worry about getting re-elected. And, they don't have to try and appeal to more than half the country that thinks they're fucking crazy. If mainstream America accepted the green party's ideals enough then they wouldn't need to exist. The democratic party would pretty much be them.
adamsappel
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Tried to vote early in MD yesterday, but the polling place nearest me wasn't on the website any longer. Might have had something to do with the storm, I guess. Oh, well, now I'll have to bring my daughter on Tuesday. She can play her 3DS.
Karma Kramer
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Really disagree with this. Did you even watch the third party debates. Their differences are vast. Obama is essentially a neo-con.
http://mediaroots.org/obamas-normalization-of-neoconservatism-torture.php
Unless his mom works for the NSA.
Karma Kramer
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Democrats have had 70 years to get the ideals of FDR and the labor movement in national policy for all and have failed tremendously. Not sure why you guys are so supportive or trusting of them.
Karma Kramer
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Seems like a good way to discourage younger voters. Microsoft doing a good job lol
BobTheFork
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Wait, is that even true anymore? I brought up voting for Nader a few times because I wanted to see a third party get the 5% and was told the rules have changed since then and there is no federal backing of the party.
Karma Kramer
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It's true. Any third party candidate would get federal backing. Our two parties already get millions in tax payer money to run their conventions and whatnot.
Apparently you get extra stuff if you've already voted, so yea.
You realize the parties are in large part a reflection of the people who vote them in right? Some of the policies and things you talk about don't get done not because the democratic party doesn't want to do them or whatever, it's because the American people are either generally opposed or doesn't give a fuck. A two parties, for the most part, will generally align with the middle of the electorate, because that's how our system works.
Marijuana, at the very least, is all but guaranteed to pass. Even if every single undecided voted no, it would still pass. As far as gay marriage goes, that's all up to voter turnout at this point. Fingers crossed, it would be amazing to solidify ourselves as the most progressive state in the country. Best of luck to Colorado, Oregon, Minnesota, Maine, and Maryland.
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Oh you.
No Romney votes get free stuff. If you want free stuff, vote for the other guy.
Karma Kramer
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False
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAkbwV808c
The American people don't know they have a choice because they aren't allowed to know. And people who do know continue to support the corruption because they don't give a fuck.
Was absolutely sure that Voter ID was going to pass. Awesome news
@5%, Republicans seize power in all 3 branches of federal government.
World plunges into chaos as America destabilizes completely from tax-cuts and increased military spending.
2016: No one remembers the Green party, because anyone that cares has been killed in the nuclear world war of 2015.
Karma Kramer
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Lol, there's enough people who simply don't vote to not be Dem votes that are stolen (and they could win the election with the non-voting demo). Also Gary Johnson is stealing votes from Romney. It works both ways.
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Same here. Glad to see it polling the other way.
Karma Kramer
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But Gary Johnson isn't a Green
What's your point? He's Libertarian as was Ron Paul and that definitely divided the GOP.
NullPointer
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The perfect gift to help you celebrate AFTER doing your duty, and finishing the fight, again: VOTE.
I'm a bag of Doritos slathered in Mountain Dew and I approve this message.
This is pretty condescending.
That's some terrible conspiracy crap right there. Anyone who says they're the same party is delusional. Of course both don't want 3rd parties to do that well, because a green party candidate will appeal to a chunk of democrats and effectively make them lose to the republicans. And the republicans have the same fear.
How about instead of trying to get into the game at the last possible level you 3rd party supporters support the green party throughout the entire process. Get green party candidates into your town, then your county, then your state, and then when enough states have them they WILL be known enough and they'll have more than enough power. Trying to shove them in at the last step in a system that's already set up from the very beginning to push toward only 2 viable parties is completely delusional. It's like throwing a hail mary.. while down 40 to nothing. And then whining that you couldn't win the game, even though you didn't even play the game.
And the two party system doesn't even push out multiple viewpoints anyway. I haven't seen many stances that the green party has that a democrat or two couldn't have on their own and still call themselves democrats. There's a lot of flexibility, because the two parties basically mean left of center and right of center and that's about it.
Rocket Punch
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The latest meme: Sudden Realization Romney
Karma Kramer
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As is the notion that one is wasting their vote by voting third party.
I'm just humorously contrasting the positive outcome at 5% with the greens with collorary of doom that'd plausibly occur with Republicans sweeping into power at all levels.
:lol
Karma Kramer
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Who said they were the same exactly? Though I would argue they are far more right wing than ever before and it continues to trend that way. Nixon was more progressive than Obama in many ways.
However you want to slice it Democratic leadership is and has been growingly incompetent and if you think that doesn't have to do with corporate control over our government then what can it be attributed to?
Your link did. And they're trending right because the electorate is stupid and is trending rightward with the dumbass baby boomers. They fell for the trickle down and corporations are people type bullshit hook line and sinker. As a response, the democrats had to incorporate a bit more of that overall or else they'd get beat.
And with this you prove my last point. Ron Paul ran in the Republican party primary. He was at all the debates. Nothing stopped him from winning the nomination as a republican even though maybe he'd be better characterized as a libertarian. He didn't get it because people don't like his stances, not because he wasn't seen. This is what I'm talking about. The few stances that I actually like Ron Paul in (some of his foreign policy things were alright), he was outright laughed at and/or booed by the republicans.
Democratic leadership can't push some of those liberal ideals because they're completely untenable. As you say, Nixon is more progressive on some things than Obama, and yet Obama is characterized as a huge socialist.
And corporations have more control over our election system because, again, the electorate stupidly believes it should be a freedom to donate your money to whoever you want. There's not enough outrage to get rid of it. If the people themselves actually cared about it, then it wouldn't be as bad. Unfortunately people don't.
The real latest meme; internetizens continually trying desperately to make a Romney meme.
I haven't been in touch with the election to be honest but I'd like it if someone answered my question.
Out of curiosity, why are third party members excluded from the main presidental debates? I have no idea what they stand for but I just found it a bit odd. Hardly any mention on the news unlike the other main debates.
Out of curiosity, why are third party members excluded from the main presidental debates? I have no idea what they stand for but I just found it a bit odd. Hardly any mention on the news unlike the other main debates.
NullPointer
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Well said.
Luckily we have only a few more days before we can forget about him entirely.
Karma Kramer
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Because they are too idealistic and crazy duh!
*note : most of GAF alligns with Jill Stein
Yep, his debate skills suddenly making him "presidential" worthy after a whole year of "etch-a-sketch"/180ing on shit REALLY makes me question the popular vote (and possibly the electoral college)'s sanity.
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