At the very end, is that from a dream sequence or something? I don't recall anything like that.
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At the very end, is that from a dream sequence or something? I don't recall anything like that.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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It's Ramsay hunting those women.
PhoenixDark
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More Bronn is always a good thing. I wonder if Cersei will make him a lord, as she did in the books. It would be interesting to see him in S5 doing badass shit. Hell, what if he's put on the Small Council again (city watch lord) to convince him not to help Tyrion. That would be interesting, and then next season Cersei could turn against him.
The very end, after the title screen.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I think they will show him assuming a lordship. If the goal is to make non-book reading Tyrion fans absolutely miserable, the best ways they can do that are through Shae (which is certainly happening) and through having Bronn turn on him as well.
Plus people will wonder why Bronn didn't stay with Tyrion when he goes to Essos if there's no fallout.
Drogon flying over Meereen, even though it looks like King's Landing.
Cornballer
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That's just some imagery that they're using to promote the season, but I don't see how it could ever appear this season without it being a dream sequence. Some people in the other thread through Dany was going to get to King's Landing next week.
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Ohhhhhh, that makes much more sense if it's Mereen.
Unsub this one, and only access the non spoiler thread through your subscriptions. No more mistakes that way.
BobTheFork
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Completely understanding whom they were talking about and how it may relate to what we've already heard is important thought. I don't expect them to keep bringing it up, so that was their chance. They don't have to explain everything, just remind people that The prince ran off with LYanna. It's something that hasn't been mention since the first episodes.
!!!! What is with these Joff's death's spoilers on twitch? My brother was spoiled about the same thing in the same way.
Finally got round to see the episode, really good stuff.
Tywin at the beginning & Arya at the end were the highlights. Loving how Jaqen's theme plays whenever Arya kills someone.
They seemed to have nailed Oberyn as well, can't wait for next weeks episode.
Oh yeah and seeing as how Sandor survived the bar fight and Gregor seems to be in the area, what are the chances The Mountain kills The Hound to help build up the Oberyn fight?
Tywin at the beginning & Arya at the end were the highlights. Loving how Jaqen's theme plays whenever Arya kills someone.
They seemed to have nailed Oberyn as well, can't wait for next weeks episode.
Oh yeah and seeing as how Sandor survived the bar fight and Gregor seems to be in the area, what are the chances The Mountain kills The Hound to help build up the Oberyn fight?
Could've sworn that was KL, haha quite tricky of them.
Moff
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the shadow of drogon?
no, thats clearly the red keep, and not a pyramid
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Yeah, I had always assumed it was KL and just some kind of dream or promo image, but Meereen definitely makes a lot more sense.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Yeah haha. Everyone in the non-book thread is like "OMG SHE'S GOING TO KING'S LANDING".
Also, should the person with the first post of a page mark it that this is the book thread for non-bookies? I'm cool with it, but I just wasn't sure what everyone else thought.
smokeandmirrors
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yeah I like this idea
Cornballer
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I'll edit it in as best I can at the top of the page.
The Artful Dodger
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Abandon All Hope ye Non-Book Readers.
Could it be a dream sequence, after all? What's confusing here is that there's some differences in the castle if you compare the first and second pic (maybe on purpose, someone remembering the details wrong?), but the natural rock foundation's a dead giveaway. Also, that kind of castle would look awfully out of place amidst all those meereenese ziggurats.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Might be a bran sequence, he is touching a tree next episode
Moff
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as I said, it is 100% kings landing with the red keep under drogons shadow, NOT mereen, I dont know where that is coming from
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Oh I guess you're right. It's either a dream sequence or Bran's vision.
Because there's no reason for Dany to be in KL at this present moment, so Meereen is the only other option.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Everyone in Westeros would freak out if they saw Drogon at KL; it would change the overall plot and the direction of Dany's arc completely.
sssstententen
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Yup, people have to remember a huge part of the plot hinges on the idea that most of the world still thinks the dragons are a fairy tale.
Moff
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we already discussed that a lot when it was in the first trailer
its probably a dream/vision, although I would love it even more if it was from bran, which would mean we would see more flashbacks though him in the future.
since we didnt see bran in the first episode, he will surely be in the second and the trailers have shown him touching trees before being connected to them in bloodravens lair, so there is actually a good chance it could be from bran.
but my money is still a vision from dany, very much like the one she had with the frozen throne room.
its probably a dream/vision, although I would love it even more if it was from bran, which would mean we would see more flashbacks though him in the future.
since we didnt see bran in the first episode, he will surely be in the second and the trailers have shown him touching trees before being connected to them in bloodravens lair, so there is actually a good chance it could be from bran.
but my money is still a vision from dany, very much like the one she had with the frozen throne room.
NekoFever
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Interesting how you can actually see it becoming less and less slavish in following the books' structure.
You could see it even moreso if they expanded the chart to show Feast/Dance, since season 3 was pulling Theon stuff from there. He'll, you could argue that this season is already pulling from Winds with that Arya dialogue.
Red Arremer
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Will be happening next episode. It doesn't make for good TV if your season opener has too many plot strings. It's also why most of the scenes that did happen were fairly long. Stannis' plotline didn't end on a cliffhanger (like Jon's and Arya's), and wasn't to introduce new character or to set up what happens in the next few eps, so it wasn't vital to be done in the first ep of the season.
You'll get plenty of Stannis the Mannis in the season I'm sure.
Yeah, in the books the Thenns are more sophisticated than other clans. However, much like the Baratheon bastards, the Essos mercenary companies, or the Tyrell sons, they folded some of the wildling clans together into one. It makes sense, because there's not much value to exploring the wildling clan structures.
But they can't show him 100% die, as he's not dead in the books, right?
At least there were very strong hints that he was not dead.
So for the show to have him 100% dead, would be a bit of a let down for book readers as we sort of expect him to not be dead.
KuwabaraTheMan
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It's kind of lame to see the more nuanced Thenns of the books being replaced with a group of cannibals who seem to exist mostly as TV villains. I think the show has done a pretty poor job in general of making sense of the wildlings, and that's rather unfortunate.
Higgins113
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Why is it "split her in half with his longsword"? I thought it was "bashed her fucking head in" in the books? Does this mean Oberyn will be split in half instead or was it just some sexual euphemism
TheCowboyPoet
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So if the Thenn's are cannibals and (seemingly) savages now, does Jon still marry the Karstark girl to Sigorn?
I was thinking maybe they'll have Brienne actually catch up to Arya and the Hound. Brienne and the Hound could both injure each other, but the Hound manages to escape with Arya and "die", and Brienne gets picked up by the Brotherhood for the Stoneheart reveal.
Also, they're going to build up a Grey Worm-Missandei relationship, give us some intense-ass cuddling, and then have Grey Worm be the Unsullied that the Sons of the Harpy kill early next season, aren't they?
bodyofanamerican
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I doubt it. Why have this image in Hunger magazine if his book death wasn't coming?
Cornballer
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One more clip from HBO:
- The Hound & Arya in the tavern (list as a "red band" clip due to violence)
- The Hound & Arya in the tavern (list as a "red band" clip due to violence)
The Artful Dodger
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They probably just change the tribe Sigorn belongs to
Red Arremer
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I kinda agree. I felt like the merry adventures of Jon and the Free Folk in Season 3 were actually pretty good, because it showed that the wildlings aren't just barbarians that kill each other over nothing. I am sad they have folded the Thenns into being cannibals, and would've preferred if they would've used another name for the cannibalistic tribe, particularly because Jon DOES mention the actually cannibalistic ice river clans when he talks about Mance Rayder's army of wildlings.
Polliver's death was pretty quick and she was taking a lot of satisfaction out of it. She still is in the process of learning and getting comfortable with what killing a man means and all.
I think that the last image of the preview is Drogon flying over King's Landing during one of Bran's visions. Some people at the Unsullied tread are even giddy about the possibility of Daenerys going to King's Landing in this season D:
I think that Benioff and Weiss will need to speed up Daenerys plot A LOT or start deviating far more from the books. Daenerys never, ever getting to Westeros is one of the biggest unfulfilled promises of the book. It is going to affect the show numbers for sure.
This is inevitable, I think. Even moreso as the next seasons will take the obvious "boiled leather" approach to merge both AFFC and ADWD.
I think that Benioff and Weiss will need to speed up Daenerys plot A LOT or start deviating far more from the books. Daenerys never, ever getting to Westeros is one of the biggest unfulfilled promises of the book. It is going to affect the show numbers for sure.
This is inevitable, I think. Even moreso as the next seasons will take the obvious "boiled leather" approach to merge both AFFC and ADWD.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Ugh. So good.
Hah, nice stealth spoiler. Reminds me of that South Park episode from a few months back where "G.R.R. Martin" casually tells Butters Joffrey gets poisoned in midst of all the wiener-jokes.
eot
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I think the kids were the ones who got bashed, Aegon at least.
Red Arremer
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