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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 4 - Sundays on HBO

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Or hey whoever gets the top post on every page in this thread needs to edit thier first line to be red and yelling "This is the spoiler thread yo!"
 
ehhhh it's whatever. I kind of already got spoiled on Joffs death by some asshole on a twitch livestream. but this just confirms it D:

my fault for not paying attention I guess. will stray far away from here in the future :p
 
ehhhh it's whatever. I kind of already got spoiled on Joffs death by some asshole on a twitch livestream. but this just confirms it D:

my fault for not paying attention I guess. will stray far away from here in the future :p

Use subscriptions. Subscribe to the non book thread and don't click on any of the GoT threads you see pop up in the list of OT threads.
 
One of my friends, who was firmly Team Stark last season, just told me Oberyn is his new favorite character.

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Also, Ramin Djawadi did some solid work for this episode. That slightly guitar-like theme for Oberyn is badass, I love it.

On an unrelated note: reading the non-book thread, it's pretty crazy how many people have no idea what's actually going on. The show really didn't do a thorough job explaining the history.
 
On an unrelated note: reading the non-book thread, it's pretty crazy how many people have no idea what's actually going on. The show really didn't do a thorough job explaining the history.
for a casual tv watcher I imagine this show being pretty complicated. There's just so many characters to remember and different motivations and whatnot. And I guess it's tough to google anything because then you run into spoilers. So I guess that thread is the only place they can ask.
 

3rdman

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Jon's voice sounded less whiny. I wonder if he's been taking feedback from us.

If there is one big issue I have with the adaptation is Jon. In the books, he's by far the most talented and able bodied man on the wall but in the show, he is a talentless fuck...He's lucky to be alive.

Hopefully this episode marks a change for the better. I'd like to see him portrayed more as he is in the books. Smart, resourceful, talented, and compassionate. He has his faults (as does everyone in Westeros) but how they've treated him has been infuriating.
 

pr0cs

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Pretty good start to the season.

- introduction to Red Viper very good, actor is killing it, and I always thought Indira Varma was smoking hot so I'm happy, even with the sexposition
- Jon Snow was at least less emo than usual, I don't think Harrington is a bad actor, just with a weak script his chops show, at least his dialog thus far has been quite good. I wonder how many people will remember Janos Slynt from previous seasons and Tyrion sending him to the wall
- Don't really care that they've portrayed the Thenns as cannibals, though as was echoed earlier I am concerned that they're going to do 2 major battles at the wall at once, which would suck
- don't like how Jaime and Brienne are both at the Red Keep at the same time AND Sansa is there. To me it really diminishes both characters transformation in the books. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a book snob and understand the mechanics of why they did it in the show but I really think it hurts their arcs, though not as bad as Snow/Qhorin, Arya/Harrenhal, etc
- Arya scene was pretty good, though after reading TWOW sample chapter I know I will miss that scene if they cut it in the TV series, the book scene had more gravity IMO

I will agree, that this is probably the strongest premiere they've had, yes lots of set-up but with enough new content worth watching.
 
I think it's even complicated at times for people who HAVE read the books. I watch every episode with my dad. I've read through them once and he's read through all of them twice and without fail he'll still end up asking me questions about people and things that have happened. Maybe it's because he's older though haha.
 

Famassu

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Hopefully this episode marks a change for the better. I'd like to see him portrayed more as he is in the books. Smart, resourceful, talented, and compassionate. He has his faults (as does everyone in Westeros) but how they've treated him has been infuriating.
They pretty much have to start making him more of a leader and less of an uncertain rookie if they don't want the whole being chosen as the next Lord Commander to seem like a total joke. I guess the first attack on the wall could be the moment where they really show him starting to take his first big leaps into being a decent leader, to really take control when things otherwise seem to be falling apart.
 

Drazgul

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One of my friends, who was firmly Team Stark last season, just told me Oberyn is his new favorite character.

After we finished watching the ep, my brother said: "That guy from Dorne is gonna teach the Lannisters a lesson."

I'll miss being able to smile knowingly once the show passes the novels.
 
for a casual tv watcher I imagine this show being pretty complicated. There's just so many characters to remember and different motivations and whatnot. And I guess it's tough to google anything because then you run into spoilers. So I guess that thread is the only place they can ask.

Pretty much. I've lost count of times people asked me to explain something they didn't understand, like what the White Walkers are or why Danaerys isn't in Westeros.
 
Oberyn was another great casting.

What was the
Winds of Winter line Arya said?
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Haven't read the new preview chapters.

Winds of Winter- In the preview chapter
she gets Raff to recite the line "You need to carry me" before she kills him with needle.
 
I think it's even complicated at times for people who HAVE read the books. I watch every episode with my dad. I've read through them once and he's read through all of them twice and without fail he'll still end up asking me questions about people and things that have happened. Maybe it's because he's older though haha.

It's been over a year since I finished them and my knowledge of the books is fading fast. Not big plot points, but the little things.
 
I enjoyed the episode.

I agree that the show does a piss-poor job of giving history on Rhaegar/Lyanna/Mountain but its not really their fault, there is just so much content to get through.

This is a show where EVERY scene is important. Talking to my (non-book reading) brother after the episode. I had to explain that even something as short as Sansa meeting Dontas and him giving her a necklace is important.

But as far as R + L stuff, since the show slid it in there today, I felt I had to give him the whole history of Robert's Rebellion, and he will now be able to appreciate the upcoming events more.
 

Famassu

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- Don't really care that they've portrayed the Thenns as cannibals, though as was echoed earlier I am concerned that they're going to do 2 major battles at the wall at once, which would suck
Eh... There's nothing pointing to this direction. If anything, that the wildlings back up arrived in first episode already and they showed them quite near the Wall, it would indicate that the first attack on the wall will probably happen within the next 1-2 episodes (probably episode 3, with 2 focusing mostly on the purple wedding). Then, the attack from the North will probably be season 4's Red Wedding/Battle of King's Landing and be THE big event that happens in Episode 9, with episode 10 having some of the aftermath (Jon being picked as the Lord Commander and the stuff between him & Stannis).
 

Frost_Ace

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Good opener, a bit too much of exposition but I guess it was to be expected to keep the non book readers up to date. The red viper is A+ ,great casting for him and Ellaria, also psycho Aria was awesome.
 

Zabka

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I've already had 3-4 people ask me about that line and why it was there. I think they needed another line reminded people they were talking about Lyanna. It seems easy to forget for most tv watchers.

The point was to not spell it out completely. There's no reason for everyone to completely understand the whole story yet.
 
Just another quick reminder for book readers to please stay out of the other thread. Most of you have been doing a good job with that so far.

Also, thanks for spoiler tagging TWOW content like you're supposed to.
 
FOR THE NON-BOOKIES, THIS IS THE SPOILER THREAD. GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

Cake/pie!
Boltons!
Team Stannis!
Also at 25 seconds you can see Joff chopping Tyrion's book in half. I loved that scene in ASOS.

The whole wedding scene in general was brilliant. I totally wasn't expecting it and had to reread it like three times before it finally sunk in.
 
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