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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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Not sure if it's been discussed here before, but after watching the latest episode again today I realized Jorah touches Daenerys when they're about to go down into the pit, and neither of them had gloves on.
Isn't greyscale highly contagious? Do you guys think this was just an oversight by the director? You can see it at minute 47:50 if you use HBO Go.
Isn't greyscale highly contagious? Do you guys think this was just an oversight by the director? You can see it at minute 47:50 if you use HBO Go.
I think a group stabbing by Jon led by Aliser would be good. Olly could try come running in, tears streaming down face but is held back by a brother.
Could end the scene with a close up of Olly's face.
I feel like the directors want us to assume/believe that you need to be fully converted to infect someone. Jorah seems to be touching everybody.
Could end the scene with a close up of Olly's face.
I feel like the directors want us to assume/believe that you need to be fully converted to infect someone. Jorah seems to be touching everybody.
Jorah has also touched multiple Meereenese fighting pit contestants, Tyrion, and probably others.
Maybe it's only contagious if you're a stone man. Otherwise it just kills you?
I don't think Alliser will join in.(Even though everyone would expect him to). He's an asshole and hates Jon but I don't believe he's the type that would murder his commander.
schlongdog
Banned
Pls no
Ape Gone Insane
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I really hope Alliser doesn't take part or approve. It would feel a little out of character in a weird way.
CitizenVectron
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Book character means nothing in the show.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Nailed it.
Higgins113
Banned
It would be weird for the show to have people act out of character
Ape Gone Insane
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He offers his not-infected hand and he's all wrapped up in cloth and leather. In the books for sure people have stopped greyscale by hacking off afflicted limbs, so it's possible it only transmits by contact with afflicted flesh.
Here's some thoughts:
http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/ask-the-maester-dragons-human-sacrifice-and-more-dragons/
We don't really have a way of evaluating what "highly" contagious entails as we've only seen one person become infected, and that was during direct contact with a full-blown Stone Man who's infection, unlike Shireen's, never stopped spreading. In that same encounter, Tyrion made similar-but-maybe-his-clothes-were-between-them contact with a full-blown Stone Man and he isn't (we don't think) infected.
would allow show watchers to speculate his revival as book readers have haha
I would be more disappointed with Alliser stabbing Jon than with Olly doing it. Unless they did a good job of showing that he was genuinely doing it "For the Watch," and with a heavy heart.
schlongdog
Banned
I just don't want to see Olly's face up close that's all
hipsterpants
Member
Maybe it's just the disappointed book reader in me, but isn't it way too early to be doing that stuff (though I can't remember if she got needle out in the books so...)? Rather than having her do cool/clever assassin stuff like the coin poison first they're all like HEY LOOK THIS GUY IS A PEDOPHILE BET YOU CAN'T GUESS HOW ARYA WILL GET HIM.
What if they shock us all and it's actually the featured extra who played Bowen Marsh that one time.
But Edd understands the problem now more than most. That would be worse than Olly tbh. Same with Alliser.
Edit: To be clear I'm still on the losing side of #teamollysaves
Edd won't choose to kill Jon because of the wildlings. He'll do it because Jon, after all that talk of banding together and defending the wall, wants to support a southern king with what limited resources the wall has.
Jon will have broken his vows by taking Davos' offer. I have a feeling Davos will also conveniently know about Jon's sister.
All of this will convince Jon to ride south personally.
Narratively speaking, it will connect back to that scene when Edd, Pyp, and Grenn bring Jon back.
Jon proposes leaving again and Edd confronts him. "For the watch!" etc.
Jon will have broken his vows by taking Davos' offer. I have a feeling Davos will also conveniently know about Jon's sister.
All of this will convince Jon to ride south personally.
Narratively speaking, it will connect back to that scene when Edd, Pyp, and Grenn bring Jon back.
Jon proposes leaving again and Edd confronts him. "For the watch!" etc.
Also, isn't Stannis' letter itself an act of treason?
The night's watch may kneel to Stannis' superior numbers, but they serve Tommen.
If they even found that letter, sent to Jon promising him political favor in exchange for watch supplies, horses, etc., that would be a broken vow.
It would make Jon look pretty shady.
The night's watch may kneel to Stannis' superior numbers, but they serve Tommen.
If they even found that letter, sent to Jon promising him political favor in exchange for watch supplies, horses, etc., that would be a broken vow.
It would make Jon look pretty shady.
Looks like Myrcella loses an ear after all.
http://watchersonthewall.com/david-...ahead-at-the-game-of-thrones-season-finale-2/
Edit: to clarify, that's speculation on my part, not info on the finale.
http://watchersonthewall.com/david-...ahead-at-the-game-of-thrones-season-finale-2/
Edit: to clarify, that's speculation on my part, not info on the finale.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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I'm hoping for more slap fights, but extreme! Very extreme!
schlongdog
Banned
I wonder if they'll actually kill Myrcella, seems like it would be something significant to move the plot, and I just can't see what sending her back to KL with Trystane would mean
The coin can still happen, but Trant has to be killed by Needle. The Thin Man is a kill for the Faceless Men and the Many Faced God, Trant is for Arya.
Holding a siege like Storm's End takes serious determination and discipline. However, his biggest achievement is defeating the Ironborn off Fair Isle.
Ah that makes sense then.
From reading the books I always assumed it was super easy to spread by just skin-to-skin contact, but that is never very clearly spelled out.
hendersonhank
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I don't know why people are so annoyed by Davos saying it was 20 men, maybe less (other than the fact that Stannis didn't correct him with "fewer"). Obviously he can tell by the tracks how many men it was.
TheOctodad
Member
But they should have shown him looking at the tracks, and then had a flashback to his tracking training to explain that. We have to show every possible thing.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Someone wrote an essay analyzing Stannis as a military commander. It's lengthy, but a good read. Stannis is probably the best military commander in the series. Not Show Stannis though, Show Stannis is a fucking moron.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
I think a lot of people actually don't understand how vulnerable humans are in that they assume these champions are super warriors who can whirlwind 20 people away with a single blow. The people in Game of Thrones are human. They have human limits (outside of magic users). A dog can bite you and rip your flesh off. If an Unsullied is stabbed in the gut or back they're not going to just walk it off--this doesn't apply to people with plot armor (which lends itself to bad writing).
Why do some of you keep posting unspoiler-tagged info about upcoming episodes?
Probably because it's all pretty well laid out except for the some details about Ramsay/Stannis/Sansa/Roose already. The rest of it has already been written.
The watch doesn't serve Tommen. How is Jon *receiving* a letter treason or a broken vow?
His biggest claim to fame was smashing the Iron Fleet when Balon rose up the first time. He also lead the assault on Great Wyk, so he's got a major W at sea and a major W on land setting siege. He was Master of Ships on Robert's small council.
Also I guess he beat the King Beyond The Wall lol.
Actually yeah. Olly has me all caught up on the Wildlings, but this makes sense too. Kinda hope they go with this now.
Admiral Woofington
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But he couldn't beat 20 good men
No one can. Except for the Fookin Legend of Gin Alley.
No, the night's watch is an established order that swears that they will take no part in the politics of the seven kingdoms. However, by default they respect the rule of the king in power, which means they do not actively oppose it.
Jon Snow is actively opposing the rule of a sitting king in possible exchange for future political favor. The only difference is that now Stannis is not at Castle Black to shield Jon from his own men.
So I ask again. How is Jon Snow now not both a night's watch oathbreaker and a traitor to the crown if he helps Stannis?
While greatly outnumbered. When has he done well against a small force of 20 good men?
She's in Star Wars too? Who isn't in that movie?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
No it's not. I don't want confirmation of those kinds of things.
Admiral Woofington
Member
20 good sith?
He's a traitor if he does it to help himself, but not if he does for the watch (in this case it's a trade, food for men to defend the Wall).
harriet the spy
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Twist: it ends up with a close up of Olly's eyes turning white.
Contempt for their viewers intelligence by not allowing them to put 2 and 2 together?
Poor contrivances that totally go against established lore that the show's already set (unsullied) and bad pacing leading to an event having less impact has been par for the course this season. If you have to go for "human nature" and "sometimes people are lucky in real life" to defend this, then lol.
I mean, what's the worst that can happen? The Tyrells or the Lannisters aren't going to send their armies all the way to the Wall to punish the 50 or so people that still work there.
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