God I hope WunWun smashes that kid's head between his toes GRRM style.
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God I hope WunWun smashes that kid's head between his toes GRRM style.
Precap:
Honestly, I don't think Benjen is in it at all. I'm sure that would have been leaked at some point. He will probably be mentioned, but we won't see him pop up. I do think that Trant is going to reveal that he never killed Syrio IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. We might not see the actor, but we could see his face in the hall of faces.
Fuck Olly.
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Pretty sure if any interaction happens he will confirm he killed Syrio in detail to taunt Arya.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
I want Jaquen to switch into Ned Stark's face just to screw with Arya and give the show watchers a heart attack...
Also, did the following line of dialogue ever happen:
Ygritte: You know nothing Jon Snow.
Jon: I may not know much... but I know what love is.
Where is that from? It's been in my head for a while.
Pyramid head
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I hope we get a good long shot of Olly's face when the White Walkers breach the wall with an "I've made a huge mistake" expression, before he's impaled on an ice spear and tossed into a fire.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Forrest Gump?
The Smoking Bun
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HAHAHAHA! You're right. Jon's is more Forest Grump though
Just seal the deal, have Arya reveal her identity to Trant who in turn would brag about fucking Syrio's corpse or something equally ridiculous and then Arya kills him
Basileus777
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There's no narrative reason to keep him alive that I can see. It'd be a pretty dumb twist. But people have been speculating about him being alive since the 90s.
The show just needed to make Jon into more of an idiot like book Jon. Have him change character rapidly based off a sketchy letter and break his oaths.
That chapter was jarring and rushed as hell in the books. It felt like the plot forcing character actions.
WrenchNinja
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If he says For the Watch it won't be earned anyway.
Cpt.Underpants
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Odd that Aliser and Odd never interacted during Jon's episodes
Previously on theory:
I'd be shocked if Benjen didn't appear in some form, you don't need 20 seconds of footage in the meticulously done recaps if you are just going to have expository discussion on him.
He will probably just show up at the end to assist in Jon's survival, but here are some book passages I think could be relevant.
He will probably just show up at the end to assist in Jon's survival, but here are some book passages I think could be relevant.
A corrupted but conscious Benjen could appear at the gates, Alliser & co. would want to put him down, and Jon going out to talk or allowing him through could be the tipping point for FTW. If he can drop R+L=J, first, all the better
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Olly needs to show concern for the state of the Night's Watch exactly two times to earn it. One time is not enough. Three times is too many and obvious.
Well surely that's a problem with Olly being the one doing it on his own if that's the case. It will be dumb if it's literally just Olly who stabs him. I don't think it will be though
usp84
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Boiled leather made this point this week. It is only "heavy handed" because we as book readers" know what is going to happen. The unsullied have been provided appropriate clues so when it happens, it doesn't seem out of nowhere.
Yeah, I don't think he'd risk his life for Jon but I'm kind of hoping we see Thorne try to get his brothers to stop.
shanshan310
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I was kind of hoping they'd take a different path with the show but seeing the giant come back to castle black last episode made my heart sink 
EDIT: uhhh those pre cap spoiler tags still make it pretty easy to figure out who you're talking about. Time to leave the thread till the episode airs :/
EDIT: uhhh those pre cap spoiler tags still make it pretty easy to figure out who you're talking about. Time to leave the thread till the episode airs :/
It's too obvious Jon won't be dead, he's like the main character. It's just a case of the following:
1) He's just wounded, appears dead, but survives and is saved. Maybe Davos comes saves him. Maybe Olly as people have guessed?
2) Dies but is resurrected somehow. Melisandre most likely.
3) What would be a crazy twist - Dies and is revived by White Walkers and becomes the new bad guy.
And the other case would be whether we get to see 1 to 3 in the Finale or Season 6. He's going to get stabbed in finale, it's just whether they leave it as a cliffhanger like the books or not.
EDIT - I guess the show could change it up from the books on this but I doubt it.
1) He's just wounded, appears dead, but survives and is saved. Maybe Davos comes saves him. Maybe Olly as people have guessed?
2) Dies but is resurrected somehow. Melisandre most likely.
3) What would be a crazy twist - Dies and is revived by White Walkers and becomes the new bad guy.
And the other case would be whether we get to see 1 to 3 in the Finale or Season 6. He's going to get stabbed in finale, it's just whether they leave it as a cliffhanger like the books or not.
EDIT - I guess the show could change it up from the books on this but I doubt it.
Only if he gets a kickass frost dragon to ride on in the final battle.
shanshan310
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Almost everyone I've talked to thinks Melisandre will resurrect him, but I'm not really convinced. Even if she knows how, she's way down near winterfell anyway and iirc the resurrection needs to be done asap.
I'm hoping that he'll be saved or injured, but realistically I feel like at best he'll just end up warging into ghost.
His being a main character could save him though. I hope
It can be subtle, for example the foreshadowing that Stannis would betray his family in season 2.
My prediction is that there will be no stabbing, the Night's Watch and wildlings will get together and paint art, led by Tormund:
I had been thinking that if Mel does resurrect him in the books, they could have a sympathetic Davos offer to bring his body to Winterfell for burial when he returns to Stannis. Davos could confront Stannis, leading Mel to need a new AA and take desparate measures. Still takes time, and the Watch burns their dead but eh just a thought.
Shuggananas
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previously on is yet again some bullshit, seriously they should cut that shit
Eh it serves its purpose and is easy enough to avoid.
Also pretty sure people working directly on the show have very little to do with them.
This is BS, ignore it. Just wait and watch the show in a couple hours.
Frank the Great
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What if they replace Jon's death with (previously-on spoiler)
him being exiled north of the wall, only to eventually meet up with Benjen/friendly Others? As I type this I realize it is impossible because Olly is destined to kill Jon.
Stannis would have to die as well and she'd be trying to bring him back
Cornballer
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- Kate Arthur @ Buzzfeed: There Is No Game Of Thrones Backlash: Season 5 has been its most-watched season.
Basically what I've been thinking since the beginning.
This train ain't stopping any time soon.
Atraveller
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My father thought today is airing the eighth episode, when I told him it was the finale, he said "What? Barely anything happened this season!".
Admiral Woofington
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what an innocent man. He doesn't know about books 4 and 5
Atraveller
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Pfft, books are still much better.
elrechazado
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But I was told three episodes leaking meant that hbo should just give up and post the entire season online.
What an embarrassment that thread was.
Admiral Woofington
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i'd rather have this season than a whole book about Greyjoy politics
People got too hung up on that 5.4M first broadcast viewership for episode 7 and forgot that GOT seasons previously had a skip week during Memorial Day weekend.
I would imagine that HBO's new streaming service has also siphoned off some of their cable viewership.
Corpsepyre
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No, they are not. Book 5 has its moments for sure and was quite the captivating read (atleast more than book 4, much more so), but going through book 4 was one of the toughest things imaginable. Season 5 > books 4 and 5 in many ways, though not all ofcourse.
Atraveller
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I simply don't agree. To me this season has only one good episode, lots of horrible episodes, even the ok ones were sprinkled with bad stuff.
They obviously are, but book 4 came out 10 years ago. To think that people started reading the story for this season 10 years ago and the show's already past it might help your dad's perspective of it being a slow season.
Alternatively he may not have actually watched episodes 8 and 9.
Sansa is a Stark, and she is "worthy of the name" (whatever that means) -- indeed, much of her arc is about gaining greater appreciation for her roots. I'm not sure how her feeling a connection with her mother's family too is somehow a sign that she isn't a Stark -- as Arya angrily declared in her first chapter, "the woman is important too".
Watching the finale with several non book readers.
They have been upset hearing me complain about shit throughout this season. "ITS NOT THE SAME, THE CONTEXT IS DIFFERENT. MANNIS WOULD NEVER DO THAT."
They have been placing jon higher and higher. They all love him. can't wait to see the tears
They have been upset hearing me complain about shit throughout this season. "ITS NOT THE SAME, THE CONTEXT IS DIFFERENT. MANNIS WOULD NEVER DO THAT."
They have been placing jon higher and higher. They all love him. can't wait to see the tears
Atraveller
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The twist is Jon stays alive, all those Olly being shitty moments are just for trolling.
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