Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
huh... I thought it was more than that. I can only think of a handful that don't support it, at least. Oh well.
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Upscalers, CRTs, PVMs & RGB: Retro gaming done right!
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huh... I thought it was more than that. I can only think of a handful that don't support it, at least. Oh well.
yeah but you need to sort by quality, most games that are worth it have a 480p option, while crapware don't.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Super Monkey Ball doesn't support it, which is a little disheartening.
sixteen-bit
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damn, I guess Nintendont does what Nintendon't
Yup. I just played through Resident Evil 3 Gamecube release in 480p thanks to Nintendon't, and it worked flawlessly. You get the sharp 480p graphics of the Dreamcast, with the slightly faster camera transitions of the Gamecube release. Best of both worlds.
This is sort of off topic but can anyone recommend a decent power strip that has a layout that accommodates the bulky power supplies of retro consoles? I'd like to have my PCE, SNES and Genesis all plugged in that the same time and just cut the power to the strip when not in use.
Can force it with Swiss!!
In the case of Super Monkey Ball, it's Nintendont does what Segadidnt.
New pc crt pick up, an IBM P275 21", It's a really nice picture although I think the sweet spot for practicality is 19"!
Only way I can get the Wii to look decent is on a pc crt:
Horrible moire in this pic
A little blown out but you can see how nice the image looks on the left
Bonus faint 480p scanlines
What did you use to achieve this? I mostly use my huge 21" monitor for Dreamcast/Xbox 360 shmups/occasional retro themed, 4:3 aspect games. Wouldn't mind using it for my progressive scan consoles too!
Yep, pretty much all the Gamecube games I tried did 480p. That's why I love using it for Gamecube games over playing on the Gamecube itself!
NormalFish
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isn't the gamecube library already overwhelmingly 480p? what non-480p titles are there worth playing? Not including GBPlayer stuff.
PumpkinSpice
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Tales of Symphonia
I use that one too. It's a true surge protector that will protect your electronics, unlike the Belkin with the pivot outlets.
NormalFish
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Both good games, fair enough. Neither of which are really for me, for better or for worse, though.
Looks like there are some multiplats (iirc) that also don't support it such as the Super Monkey Ball games and Beyond Good & Evil.
Wario ware actually seems to support it. Dunno how to enable it, though. Could be an error on wikipedia.
Only 200 out of 660 Gamecube games do 480p on a real Gamecube.
NormalFish
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What are those games, though? I mean if the vast majority of that 460 are licensed titles without much value, does it matter?
Regardless, overwhelming majority isn't correct.
PumpkinSpice
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GameCube 480i looks pretty good anyway, especially if you have good de-interlacing on your TV or a Framemeister.
It's annoying as fuck to capture though because a deinterlacer is required to make it look acceptable and get 60FPS.
Is this only listing 480p native titles, and not taking into account the titles that can be forced into displaying at 480p via Swiss?
Yep, native only.
NormalFish
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I count 21 without 480p?
The rest don't seem to support it, thus not listed.
NormalFish
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But then why list other games that don't support it? seems more likely that there isn't data, which tends to be indicative of poor or super niche titles. factoring in the gamecubes small and centralized library, that seems to confirm that lack of 480p on the ngc is all but a none issue.
I have no clue.
theclaw135
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The present list isn't only for 480p. Widescreen and PAL60 are alternate modes too.
davidwhangchoi
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show off your new arrangement =)
Shin Johnpv
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Soon! I actually need to go buy a couple new power boards so I can have individual switches, and a longer aux extension cable, but otherwise everything is in place.
And the bassinet looks good in the spare room!
These pictures are from a Mayflash Component (YpbPr) to VGA (RGBHV) transcoder but I've also just received the GARO transcoder from the people that made the Hanzo/Toro dc vga boxes.
I recommend the GARO for the best no hassle option, to me it looks like the same picture quality as the Mayflash which uses a really great chip for the transcoding. Also has a scanliner and a SCART output built into it.
I was going to put up a more in depth impression once I played around with the GARO but I'll list up some pros/cons here:
GARO
+ No desynchs for Wii (So far..) - Where as the Mayflash would lose synch on bright white flashes e.g the lighting in Mario Kart Double Dash the Garo holds perfectly (I need to test on Ps2 but it should hold synch too. VGA monitors need the signal from these machines to be attuned somewhat. Never experienced a desynch on the original XBox with Mayflash)
+ Scanliner built in
+ Build quality
+ Passes audio through to SCART
+ Picture quality (Testing various transcoders, the saturation would be off or there would be excessive colour bleed, no issues here)
- Price? at $85 it's a fair bit more than the Mayflash which I suspect is mostly down to the scanliner built in, I already have the Hanzo so it would have been nice to have a cheaper option sans scanliner
- Requires a 9v-12v 1A psu, not provided
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MAYFLASH
+ Picture quality
+ Runs off USB
+ Price - Can be had for £11/$14
+/- No scanliner
+/- No SCART
- Loses synch on bright white flashes, No More Heroes when powering up and doing supers in Capcom Fighting Jam (Appears to handle the Xbox fine though, assuming that signal doesn't exceed the peak level vga needs to hold synch?)
- Very 'plasticy' build quality
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If you're handy with a soldering iron you could easily build a VGA attenuator (75ohm resistors on the RGB pins?) and use that in conjunction with the Mayflash to fix the desynch issues and save some cost:
These things have saved the Wii for me and with Nintendont I get to experience my GC library in 480p without spending an arm and a leg on GC component cables.
To my knowledge, every box includes the JP21 adapter and not scart.
It's this one I bought:
https://solarisjapan.com/collections/micomsoft/products/eu-tax-free-xrgb-mini-framemeister-compact-up-scaler-unit-eur-scart-adapter
I know it says it's EUR, I'm just paranoid.
That's convenient.
The bag that contains the adapter isn't labelled? I didn't even touch my JP21 cable, just left it at the bottom of the box.
Someone out there makes a VGA cable for Wii.
DarkConfidant
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This is the only exactly what I was looking/asking for, a few pages back!
No label on the bag, it's probably the correct one, but I'd rather not risk it. There was only one adapter cable in the box.
Repost from the setup thread....
pictured: 55" HDTV, my gaming PC (i7 4.0ghz, gtx 970), Japanese RGB modded N64, modded and region free japanese saturn, 50/60hz and csync modded region free asian Mega Drive, Framemeister, Wii U, chipped PSone, RGB modded SNES/SFC Jr console with optical digital audio output mod and my 5.1 sony surround sound - 4x mission speakers, one cheap tannoy centre speaker and a panasonic sub (not pictured)
all the mods (aside from the N64 which I bought premodded) were done by myself, so I'm pretty happy with how it all turned out - and not for an extravagant price either.
Oh and a bonus photo
pictured: 55" HDTV, my gaming PC (i7 4.0ghz, gtx 970), Japanese RGB modded N64, modded and region free japanese saturn, 50/60hz and csync modded region free asian Mega Drive, Framemeister, Wii U, chipped PSone, RGB modded SNES/SFC Jr console with optical digital audio output mod and my 5.1 sony surround sound - 4x mission speakers, one cheap tannoy centre speaker and a panasonic sub (not pictured)
all the mods (aside from the N64 which I bought premodded) were done by myself, so I'm pretty happy with how it all turned out - and not for an extravagant price either.
Oh and a bonus photo
Another option might be the OSSC, I don't have one but the reviews say the component transcoding is superb with zero desynchs. I believe that costs £150, but it does a bunch of other cool things so might be worth considering (Would require a DVI>VGA dongle).
@Rich! Great setup, love the logos on the switch boxes.
Ha thanks! I actually replaced them since that photo with ones actually cut out straight and not wonky as hell. Thought it'd be a good idea to have some sort of label on the switches and I had some spare glossy label paper! It's the same paper I use for my everdrive and repro labels that I design and print.
Bear in mind with the OSSC the waiting list is HUUUUUUUUUGE. Theyre made to order and shipping is so far less than 100 every two months. I'm placed in the low 700s and I very much doubt I'll get to buy one before 2017. Hence why I bought a framemeister until then.
Register at videogameperfection asap if you want in on it. I'm just glad I'm in the UK for once! I bought my RGB bypass amps and the digital snes audio board from them and they all arrived within one day as they are also UK based. OSSC would be the same! No customs shenanigans!
Ah yeah the waiting list! Good point.
Are you done with your setup now? it's so neat and tidy, must have some mad cable management skillz. No Xbox, Ps2 or Wii (WiiU's vWii not being all that great)?
My Xbox is under my bed...it's got a 160gb HDD set up and all that but I just have no desire to really use it.
My Wii is now connected to my 17" JVC broadcast crt in the spare room!
And...the cable situation is terrifying. I've just hidden it all out of sight. When I was building my house I made sure I had integrated cabling through the walls for audio and video as well as 8 power sockets behind where the entertainment unit is....they are all in use. I've had to add on a multiplug adapter.
My setup is really limited on room now. I can't fit anything else on. Apart from maybe a PC engine. I may even try rgb modding a NES myself if I can get a top loader or AV Famicom for the right price - I was looking forward to the AVS but £50 shipping to the UK put that out of the question for me. Sadly.
The integrated Audio and Video in the walls sounds amazing! My setup is a bit of a tip, I'm still playing with the setup and have cables spewing out everywhere not to mention one too many crts... I see that flat screen mounted on the wall and it all looks so perfect.
Got to get the xbox out for some Jet Set Radio or Panzer Dragoon Orta <3
Got to get the xbox out for some Jet Set Radio or Panzer Dragoon Orta <3
Heh yeah it's good! I made sure to have it set up for the surround sound too:
Crap photo as it's behind my sofa, but I have one of those banana jack panels for each surround speaker and a set of four inputs behind my surround sound unit. They run through the walls.
Behind the TV is a power outlet and an HDMI pass through, running through the wall.
Elegant when it's finished, a mess otherwise!!!
My place was a very large old outhouse that was converted into a large gym and then into a two bed place for me. Considering average rent here is £750 minimum per month for a SINGLE bedroom property I'm pretty fucking lucky. I live in the most expensive place in the UK by comparison to the residents incomes. Luckily I have a very easy and well paid job too!
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