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Upscalers, CRTs, PVMs & RGB: Retro gaming done right!
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speedlolita
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They even have the multisync Sharp CRT.
hnnng
No way I'd want to get one of those shipped to Europe, poor thing would probably perish.
hnnng
No way I'd want to get one of those shipped to Europe, poor thing would probably perish.
PumpkinSpice
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At this point, the only thing stopping me from buying a whole wack of old Japanese computers is the difficulty/risk in getting them to Canada.
The Dale Chihuly glass museum in Seattle has a display in the gift shop with a bunch of old CRT's. I wish I would have taken some pictures. I'll search later when I'm not on mobile...although I can't imagine many people took pictures of old CRT's in a glass museum gift shop, lol.
One day I'm hoping to come across an old Commodore 64 monitor. That's my holy grail of CRTs. Unfortunately as time marches on they're likely deteriorating more and more.
found one of these at a thrift store in june:
Great condition, only cost me $50.00.
Nice sharp image, no rgb though, but i did make an s-video adapter that hooks up to the luma/chroma inputs.
also recapped it.
My friend donated his C-64 to me and it looks perfect on it, as do all my other consoles.
Riesenfass
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My HD retrovision Genesis cable came today and I'm so glad I pulled the trigger - it looks way, way, way better on my Sony CRT than composite. If anyone is on the fence, and has a component capable CRT, go for it - you won't regret it.
RadarScope1
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found one of these at a thrift store in june:
Great condition, only cost me $50.00.
Nice sharp image, no rgb though, but i did make an s-video adapter that hooks up to the luma/chroma inputs.
also recapped it.
My friend donated his C-64 to me and it looks perfect on it, as do all my other consoles.
Killer. Give us a pic in action, man.
NOLA_Gaffer
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That red Magnavox I posted at least has composite.
saveweyard
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One day I'm hoping to come across an old Commodore 64 monitor. That's my holy grail of CRTs. Unfortunately as time marches on they're likely deteriorating more and more.
My Commodore 1084S monitor is just sitting in my storage room along with my Amiga 500. I wish I had the space for it in my setup, and the time to mess around with it more.
Phone camera makes it look washed out but here ya go from my super nes via s-video:
s-video modded atari jr:
c-64 not hooked up to it at the moment.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Just rub it in why doncha.
Nah I kid.
Nah I kid.
D.Lo
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That TV plus composite modded Family Computer, plus Famicom Basic Keyboard, plus Famicom Data recorder = 80s baller hacker.
NOLA_Gaffer
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So cheap
Been lurking for one of those for more than a year and only found one on an auction. It was 400$ though. Going to cry in the corner...
cyborgnumberblue
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Yeah, I think that will be something that we see within the next 2 years, for sure.
speedlolita
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That doesn't seem realistic to me at all.
sixteen-bit
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Not a chance. There's no way to justify the cost of manufacturing them.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
My brother lives in Tampa, but I've already blown so much this month on some Sega CD games and a set of SNES Component cables.
Impossibly expensive and I'm not sure I could trust a "hobbyist-grade" CRT. With plasma gone, low-input lag OLED or similar tech with self-lit pixels is the dependable future replacement anyway. LCD is the garbage stopgap we have had to endure!
IrishNinja
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so, the weird CRT colors i was getting definitely turned out to be the SCART to component adapter! tested on gunsmith's setup and yeah, it's that.
bought it last april but didn't have a chance to properly fuck with it for a while, good news is the seller is cool and is sending a replacement. can't wait for proper trinotron colors!
bought it last april but didn't have a chance to properly fuck with it for a while, good news is the seller is cool and is sending a replacement. can't wait for proper trinotron colors!
Isn't it one of those that need to be tweaked a bit? Like tuning pots from inside?
Yep, that's what I hate about that.
gingerbeardman
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My thoughts are more that we'll see a focus on old TVs with good tubes, retrofitted to add extra connections, better speakers, etc.
for sure
apparently there's a Japanese company that makes (or made?) metal chassis for modern PCs that resemble X68k towers. That would be neat for a build lol.
Whoa any idea who made them? I want one.
entremet
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No because of economies of scale. The supply chain and factories that used to make CRTs have been repurposed. Also the amount of people who would buy them would in the tens of thousands at most.
Not a huge audience.
IrishNinja
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exactly that (pretty sure you guys recommended it) but we tried that & was hoping, but still no greens! so yeah, hopefully soon
As always with CRTs. Replace the caps first
But I've got slight suspicion that it might be vertical deflection amplifier gone bad.
entremet
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These things have S-Video? Or are you using an S-Video to RGB converter? I though it was only RGB and composite--Front inputs.
I must say, one odd benefit of a 4K display is the ability to easily snap pictures of them. This is just an iPhone 6+ shot of Contra 3 running on an OLED display. Less bloomed in real life, of course. Not a 1-chip SNES hence the slight blur.
Looks great!
Requisite posting of the awesome music from that stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plo3YL1CATM
NormalFish
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720p looks better on a 4k set than a 1080p set, sure. as should just about anything.
I question that. Does 1080p (in general)also look better on a 4K set then on a 1080p set?
I have my doubts but some people have made that claim.
speedlolita
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Integers.
Why would that be analogous? 720p -> 1080p = not an even scale, 720p -> 4K = a 3x even scale, 1080p -> 4k = an even 2x scale
Barring other processes like CSC that can create more aliasing (along with the infamous chroma shift) if done improperly by many dispalys and devices, 720p resolution looks better on a 4K display than a 1080 one. 1080p is also an even scale to 4K. If the 4K display is good at what it does it will at the very least look identical to a 1080p display in processing a 1080 native image.
1080p is a 2x integer scale on a typical 4k display (1920 X 1080 -> 3840 X 2160).
Yeah I messed up my numbers. Somehow, I was off by like 4 pixels. lol
So yeah, 4K is an even scale for 1080p as well.
entremet
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What model tv is this?I must say, one odd benefit of a 4K display is the ability to easily snap pictures of them. This is just an iPhone 6+ shot of Contra 3 running on an OLED display. Less bloomed in real life, of course. Not a 1-chip SNES hence the slight blur.
No it has composite in the front and luma/chroma inputs in the back for commodore computers made at the time. I had to make a homemade s-video adapter that hooks into the luma/chroma inputs.
Laevateinn
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RetroRGB opened up pre-orders for SCART/JP21 switches again but they need 30 pre-orders or they won't make any JP21 switches. I feel so much despair right now.
Why do you guys use SCART instead of JP21? The XRGB-3 uses JP21 so it only made sense for me to buy all my cables in that form. Is it because there's more documentation on SCART? Can you make SCART run at 60 FPS?
Why do you guys use SCART instead of JP21? The XRGB-3 uses JP21 so it only made sense for me to buy all my cables in that form. Is it because there's more documentation on SCART? Can you make SCART run at 60 FPS?
It's the LG B6 OLED display.
For me it's because SCART accessories are much cheaper and easier to come by.
Here in Europe our TV's and systems mostly come with RGB scart options to begin with.
Bar81
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Thanks for updating. Sounds like it could be his last JP21 run one way or another. I'm in for two.
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