US Police smash camera for recorded killing

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Jenga said:
i don't think a cop in texas knows about what some dumb shit in la is doing
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Police seemingly refuse to acknowledge the failures of other police. If there are good cops out there they seemingly want the respect of their fellow corrupt police more than the people they protect so they shouldnt be surprised when former pro-police people like me fear and despise them.
 
YYZ said:
Video showing a man being decimated by a barrage of bullets. Bleep out the swear words. America.
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Samething applies to boobs. You can show the whole breast practically but all of a sudden if nipples are exposed = ZOMG COVER YOUR EYES.

lol.
 
dankir said:
Samething applies to boobs. You can show the whole breast practically but all of a sudden if nipples are exposed = ZOMG COVER YOUR EYES.

lol.
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that's because in ancient american folklore, the nipple was seen to be the eye of satan himself. so when a pair of nipples are looking straight at you, it is really satan staring deep into your soul
 
Stairs said:
the cops did it to be safety...you shouldnt judge...guy deserves to go to jail for interfering with police matter..

their there to protect and serve
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they were destroying evidence, and that's a serious offense. The article makes a great point of technology being a check to abuses of power. Makes me wish i had a memory card in my iPhone that I could easily remove...I would stream that shit directly to USTREAM and post a thread on GAF to get you guys to watch.
 
Angry Grimace said:
The thing is, many cops actually believe it is illegal to film them, and many that don't actually think this believe it should be.

If it ever becomes illegal to film the police, it means it's time to move the fuck out of the country. The police as a whole aren't a corrupt entity, but the fact that the only people who can police the police are...the police (even good cops don't rat on other cops), means that they essentially can act as they see fit without repercussions.
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It's illegal in some states.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
100$ that the filmer is black.
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I actually have no clue where you're going with this, or why?

water_wendi said:
Police seemingly refuse to acknowledge the failures of other police. If there are good cops out there they seemingly want the respect of their fellow corrupt police more than the people they protect so they shouldnt be surprised when former pro-police people like me fear and despise them.
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You're referring to the Blue Code of Silence, i.e. that no cop rats out another cop, it just isn't done.

It doesn't surprise me that the Police want to make it illegal to film them: videos of them does nothing but get them in trouble. I mean, if I could pass a law in which it was stated that I could personally do anything I want without repercussions, I would, too.
 
Trojita said:
6/10 is better than average.

That shit is either a 0/10 or a 1/10 at best. His trolling isn't very good. His fucked up grammar makes it worse.
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Yeah I suppose you're right. I think I underestimate GAF sometimes, I was expecting that to cause a derail.
 
Trojita said:
6/10 is better than average.

That shit is either a 0/10 or a 1/10 at best. His trolling isn't very good. His fucked up grammar makes it worse.
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my dads in the cpast guard i take threats against cops seriously
 
At least the police in FL have to make an effort to get the footage. In IL, it's illegal to film on-duty police. Damn crazy.
 
Angry Grimace said:
The thing is, many cops actually believe it is illegal to film them, and many that don't actually think this believe it should be.

If it ever becomes illegal to film the police, it means it's time to move the fuck out of the country. The police as a whole aren't a corrupt entity, but the fact that the only people who can police the police are...the police (even good cops don't rat on other cops), means that they essentially can act as they see fit without repercussions.
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I believe that in some states it is illegal to film the police. At least people have been arrested for it. I'm not sure of the outcome.
Such BS.

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water_wendi said:
i think ive seen at least five or so videos of police harassing people video taping this month alone.
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AbsoluteZero said:
Five police officers = everybody, of course.
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Lol, you're suggesting that each of the five videos Wendi saw only contained one cop harassing somebody?
 
That filming cops is actually illegal in parts of this country is scary. It's the only method we have as citizens to protect ourselves from the power hungry pricks that enter the police force and abuse their position of authority. Any state that has such a law on the books should be challenged by its citizens.
 
Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:
I believe that in some states it is illegal to film the police. At least people have been arrested for it. I'm not sure of the outcome.
Such BS.

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I don't think we're beholden enough to the police to pass anything like that in California. The very idea is legitimately scary to me.
 
Gotta give it up to this guy. Putting the memory card in your mouth to hide it right before the cops start waving their guns in your face is some Jack Bauer shit.
 
My run in with the police was not violent, but they did violate my rights and even lied on the police report about it. If someone was filming the incident I could actually prove it, but police can usually do whatever they want because no one within the court system is going to side with a citizen facing charges when it comes to a he said she said with the cops. Any sort of film of the instance would have shown the truth, so to think that such filming is illegal makes me sick.
 
Stairs said:
my dads in the cpast guard i take threats against cops seriously
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How the fuck is recording police officers a threat?

Oh, btw. I have friends that are cops so I'm totally clean and allowed to say this. :D
 
Angry Grimace said:
The thing is, many cops actually believe it is illegal to film them, and many that don't actually think this believe it should be.
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Can you show me numbers for this? Oh I forgot we are on the internet. I'm glad these videos come out but on the bad side everyone just lumps all police officers together.
 
sans_pants said:
if they controlled the video they could just edit it all they want


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zioneyez/eyeztm-by-zioneyez-hd-video-recording-glasses-for
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It should be uploaded real-time and monitored by an independent federal agency as part of a sweeping Police Reform.

quickwhips said:
Can you show me numbers for this? Oh I forgot we are on the internet. I'm glad these videos come out but on the bad side everyone just lumps all police officers together.
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Can you point me to police that are against this anti-filming sentiment thats been building up? If you are a police officer and are against police abusing people filming police would you like to go on record by stating your name and where you are an officer?
 
Chavelo said:
How the fuck is recording police officers a threat?

Oh, btw. I have friends that are cops so I'm totally clean and allowed to say this. :D
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Oh idk only obstruction of justice lol
 
wenis said:
yes, because they're all bad based on this....go away.
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So where the hell are the good cops defending citizens' right to film them as a matter of holding on to public trust? Of course not all cops commit abuse of citizens, but none of them ever seem to speak out on how citizens can protect themselves from the bad cops. Why?
 
chaostrophy said:
So where the hell are the good cops defending citizens' right to film them as a matter of holding on to public trust? Of course not all cops commit abuse of citizens, but none of them ever seem to speak out on how citizens can protect themselves from the bad cops. Why?
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They speak up in public against a law or rule and they face losing their job and everything attached to it. They're people too, with families and bills. Would you sacrifice everything? Do you really think that most men and women would sacrifice everything personally for that? I'm sure they exist, but if they're good cops already, who's going to video tape that? no one. so the law most likely never comes up in situations they're involved in.
 
quickwhips said:
Can you show me numbers for this? Oh I forgot we are on the internet. I'm glad these videos come out but on the bad side everyone just lumps all police officers together.
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No offense, but wtf are you talking about? You can't express common sentiments you hear from people you personally know who are police officers without "posting numbers?" Give me a goddamn break, buddy.

Not only that, but there have been MANY stories in which police officers have confiscated cameras and/or told witnesses they were not allowed to film them, even though it is not illegal. You know, such as the story we are commenting on right now.
 
wenis said:
They speak up in public against a law or rule and they face losing their job and everything attached to it. They're people too, with families and bills. Would you sacrifice everything? Do you really think that most men and women would sacrifice everything personally for that? I'm sure they exist, but if they're good cops already, who's going to video tape that? no one. so the law most likely never comes up in situations they're involved in.
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No offense, but this sounds an awful like like, "everyone is out for themselves."

That doesn't mean it's correct. I totally understand WHY they don't like being filmed. There's nothing to gain for them and more to lose. Doesn't mean we should make it illegal simply because it provides potential for the police to get in trouble.
 
Because Mr. Benoit matched the description of one of the subjects just reported fleeing the scene and, further, because he ignored repeated commands as he quickly walked towards and entered his vehicle, he was detained by officers.
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"Oh shit black male! He matches the description get him!"
 
No one wants to be filmed doing their job. Unfortunately, public filming/recording is the only defence citizens have against bad cops. There is no other way to make an allegation stick.
 
Angry Grimace said:
No offense, but this sounds an awful like like, "everyone is out for themselves."

That doesn't mean it's correct. I totally understand WHY they don't like being filmed. There's nothing to gain for them and more to lose. Doesn't mean we should make it illegal simply because it provides potential for the police to get in trouble.
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I'm not saying it should be illegal to film btw. I've had this long discussion with my father about it (he's a retired Sheriff Deputy of 30 years) and he says that people should be allowed to film. Cops are people too and they make mistakes and when they do, they should be held accountable for their actions, held to a higher standard because that's what the badge brings.

At the end of the day though, cops will not speak out against it because they have far too much to lose. It's only human for them to want to protect theirs.

That's why it's up to normal citizens to actually get out there and fight against it. There's only so much that bitching on a forum can do, but if the people in this thread that hate the idea of a law against filming cops then go and do something about it. Be pro-active and nip it in the bud before the law comes to your state.
 
water_wendi said:
Also Miranda Rights needs to change. Anything police say should be able to be used in your defense.
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Agreed. Instead of Miranda being strengthened, the Supreme Court has weakened it for ordinary citizens.

dudeworld said:
no thanks, I'd rather not get arrested or shot
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In most places, filming someone doing their job is not a crime. The mere fact that you are as scared as you are for doing something that is entirely in your rights should tell you something about how different cops have acted in your experience than how they would act if they followed the law.
 
chaostrophy said:
So where the hell are the good cops defending citizens' right to film them as a matter of holding on to public trust? Of course not all cops commit abuse of citizens, but none of them ever seem to speak out on how citizens can protect themselves from the bad cops. Why?
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IIRC there was a cop in NY that was making records of the times they didn't follow up on rape cases so they could lower the statistic for the precinct, times they assaulted random people and a few other things. When his superior found out about this he falsified records to get the guy committed to a mental institution.
 
chaostrophy said:
If you look at the big picture throughout human history, the amount of harm done by official forces like police and military organizations vastly exceeds harm done by criminals.
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Well that's a bit of an unfair comparison since its not even close to our law enforcement now.

Since were looking at the bigger picture, if we didn't live in a world were people are willing to hurt or kill you for your shit we would not need law enforcement. So they are necessary and unfortunately have to be made up of people who for the most part are trying to uphold the law.

So I find ignorant statements by ungrateful people who group all officers together and are apparently clueless at what the world would be like with out them a bit annoying.
 
I heard about this story a couple weeks ago and it made me curious. So when a cop came in for some coffee I chatted with him about the topic of filming. He said he expected to be filmed at some point and if he was doing anything wrong he deserves to get caught. Who knows if he actually believed this or if circumstances could change his opinion, but it is a question I want to ask more officers when I get a chance.
 
Bulbo Urethral Baggins said:
I believe that in some states it is illegal to film the police. At least people have been arrested for it. I'm not sure of the outcome.
Such BS.

are-cameras-the-new-guns
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It's not illegal to film police, it's illegal to film anyone who hasn't given consent. That important distinction needs to be made because these laws could be cleaned up to allow the filming of cops as was discussed in that article.

Basically shitty cops are abusing a law to protect themselves, I don't think it's a huge deal in the long run because good cops won't have an issue being filmed so these things will sort themselves out. Sucks in the short term for anyone that gets a felony though.
 
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