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US Vice-Presidential Debates 2016 |OT| Your Big Awkward Family Reunion

Who won the debate?


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That answer from Pence on social security made no sense. He acts like increasing tax spending (revenue) is a contradiction to the claim that the government will maintain commitment to social security, and then tries to act like that's going to raise the deficit more than cutting taxes and still paying out to social security.
 
People are thinking Pence is winning? What are you people watching?

If you listen to it as if were a foreign language, merely basing it on the tone, there's a point for Pence. Hell, that's how much of the country will take it. But if you listen to what they're saying, Pence is speaking nonsense calmly. Kaine is speaking facts erratically.
 
I think Kaine's content is helping to even out some of his issues with body language and anxiousness. Not sure the result of this debate will move the needle either way.
 

rSpooky

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So if Pence "wins" this debate based on appearance etc. then it sorts once and for all the argument that people want to hear policy and facts. THEY DO NOT!.. it is a crutch to not change their minds and when policy and facts are used they close their ears and tune out.
 

Velcro Fly

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Don't confuse Pence being a smooth talker for anything. He's lying and avoiding facts just as hard as Trump. He may look better doing it but he's still a lying scumlord.
 
If you listen to it as if were a foreign language, merely basing it on the tone, there's a point for Pence. Hell, that's how much of the country will take it. But if you listen to what they're saying, Pence is speaking nonsense calmly. Kaine is speaking facts erratically.
This is the election though where Donald Trump is the GOP nominee because "feelings are facts".
 

Ithil

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Kaine has been heating up. Pence seems a bit throw off now. Not the strategy I would suggest for Kaine--but I can tell by his smile he is comfortable and in the zone. But his focus egts narrowed and attack the small stuff that doesn't help his ticket.

It seems like Pence is well prepared with learned answers but is faltering when Kaine keeps interrupting the answers to challenge him on points.
 

Codeblue

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Kaine isn't bad when he's just speaking facts.

Pence is grimy as all hell, basically said he didn't care for figures earlier.

If Kaine would calm down, I think he'd be running away with this.
 
Kaine really doesn't play the bully well. He doesn't understand the timing or see where his openings are.

He's like a goofy kid who plays too aggressively and doesn't recognize his social awkwardness.

That said, it could be worse. He's filling his turn with plenty of intelligent talk, so he's not a blundering baboon like Trump.
 
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