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US Vice-Presidential Debates 2016 |OT| Your Big Awkward Family Reunion

Who won the debate?


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Eidan

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Sure, they take the news negatively, I'm not sure what the lasting implication of that is though. And I'm not sure how salient of a line of attack it is versus policy questions or even questions about his business acumen, because when I read the information about the taxes, the first thing that seemed to stand out to me as an obvious line of attack is questioning his supposed and vaunted business skills.
It's less a problem of his business acumen, and more a problem of responsibility. Despite not liking taxes, and wanting them reduced, many Americans view taxes as a responsibility. Learning that a self-proclaimed billionaire who wants to lead America's armed forces, while not contributing taxes to said armed forces, didn't play well. Which is why Kaine is hammering it.
 
going after the clinton foundation? when the Trump foundation has literally been found to be a fraudulent enterprise this week?

Pence should get his ass nailed to the wall on that.
 

JordanN

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"Putin is a dictator. Are you listening America? HE. IS. A. DICTATOR"

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Pastry

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doesnt really matter who wins this debate, we'all be back to talking about Russia and taxes because it's all Kaine he mentioned lol
 

Xe4

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Kaine is attacking because Clinton can't. No one cares about the VP debate, so it's as good a time as any to hammer some points home. Bonus points if any of the shit Kaine says baits Trunp into another dumb statement or Twitter rant.

Wish he didn't interrupt as much, though.
 

Drakeon

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An acquaintance of mine posted this on my FB wall against Kaine:

"Stopped Iran's nuclear weapons program?! We handed them hundreds of billions of dollars and have guaranteed they will get a nuclear weapon. Delusional. Or more likely, worse, total liar."

Any one got a good response for me here? I'm not the most political guy, but I assume some of you are.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/7/12830688/us-iran-cash-payment-ransom

We didn't give them hundreds of billions of dollars and it has nothing to do with the Iranian nuclear deal.
 

Monocle

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okay so people trying to paint trump as a victim after this whole election and what's he's said and done, is pathetic and makes me feel ill
OK but you can't deny Trump is the victim of the most vicious insult-driven campaign in history. That's just a true fact!
 
I think the media will call this for Pence for showing a calmer side to Trump's ticket. Even if I appreciate Kaine trying to be aggressive.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Kaine should have at least five responses for this
 

Biske

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Kaine is doing what Republicans do all the time. Just repeating same things over and over again. And it's working like I've never seen before. It doesn't matter if he wins or looses the debate, Hillary barely took any danage from this debate and Trump has.

This.

This whole debate has been about Trump and what a douche he is.

Home run.


Thats all it takes. This election pins on who people think is the worst. A whole debate about Trump being the worst, is mission accomplished.
 
I think Kaine has won the debate pretty handily, personally. Pence seems calmer but is just as incoherent as Trump, and Kaine has kept forcing Pence to go on the defensive because of Trump's actions and statements.
 

bndadm

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"rebuild our military" what the fuck is wrong with these shitheads? How can you say that with a straight face when we are regularly spending trillions on defense? Fuck off.

It's not just that. It's modernizing our nukes but we don't want to use them but we will because we have American strength.
 

Drek

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One thing I'm glad about is Trump's tax returns will be the main headline of this debate.
Um, pretty clear that was Kaine's primary goal for this debate. VP debates only matter in controlling media narrative coming out of them. Kaine is hammering the taxes thing and Trump's insult heavy rhetoric to make sure it gets play this week. The fact that Pence has let him roll over while throwing out some lame "didn't say that" denials of shit on tape just means that Kaine's mission is going better than intended.

I don't think you can find 30 seconds of this thing that doesn't include a mention about Trump's taxes.
 
I love Kaine but he came into the game with a weak gameplan and didn't change anything. Pence is doing better on nearly every segment.

I hate to say it but one guy looks presidential and the other looks like a cheerleader.

Pence is doing better if you glance at the debate in its current form for a few seconds before flipping the channel. Pence has a more presidential look and stature, but he's not saying anything to rebut Kaine's points beyond lightly chuckling and saying "he didn't say that." He's on the defense, and the second you realize that he's been on the defense for most of the night he stops looking so presidential.

But yeah, flipping through for 20 seconds? Absolutely Pence looks like the leader here.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Glad Pence is trying the "rebuild the military" garbage. Most Americans are sick of war.
 

Xilo

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Kaine won this. Pence couldn't defend Trump once on his issues.

You'd be right if this was about defending issues. The debate is about who the American public feels is better, and feels like lied to them less. Pence may be spouting a ton of complete garbage, but he sounds completely confident and collected. Kaine sounds a bit looney.
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
Mmmm, Kaine, you give me them Clinton Foundation facts. Preach it! The right just refuse to believe "oh right, it turns out they did a ton of good."
 

Codeblue

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Clinton Foundation and e-mails in the same sentence? Should have said they were located in Benghazi and he would have had a hat trick.
 
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