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[Cooter]

So this really doesn't bother anyone huh?

Simple answer: Obama is behind it thus GAF is totally cool with it.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Simple answer: Obama is behind it thus GAF is totally cool with it.

No, it's the Jewish Saudi Reptile Alliance...isn't that what Alex Jones and his ilk are pushing? lol

 

[Clevinger]

Simple answer: Obama is behind it thus GAF is totally cool with it.

Tell us more about this GAF hivemind.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

GD look who's back....

Anyway, Let them determine their own fate. I know it's a civil war happening, but self-determination is the best result.

 

[East Lake]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485082&highlight=syria

Only a matter of time before Cinnabon moves in now.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485082&highlight=syria

Only a matter of time before Cinnabon moves in now.

Mmmmm Freedom is delicious.

 

[Nilaul]

Go to war, people forget about economic crises. A perfect distraction. Also you will make money by rebuilding Libya after war.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

How is this declaring War on a country?

 

[mavs]

Go to war, people forget about economic crises. A perfect distraction. Also you will make money by rebuilding Libya after war.

You need to rethink the concept of making money.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

You need to rethink the concept of making money.

He also needs to rethink the differences between Libya and Syria

 

[thefit]

It's a controlled leak designed to send a clear signal to all involved were this administration stands on the issue. Now let's see how Russia and China respond.

 

[Pctx]

Nope, I'm wondering what the odds are him skipping or him being pulled out of a drain. I must say Syrian needs to work hard to top the end of Gaddafi. I mean that had things like busting the palace doors open, boss dude wearing Gaddaifi's hat and scepter, and Gaddafi getting his just deserts. Granted I don't want to see people lobbing VX around Syria.

Pulling a gun and killing one man really make that much of a difference?

Not when you misrepresent it so.

So the US intervention in Libya was not a war then?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

You need to rethink the concept of making money.

Dick Cheney would reep the benefits. Republicans would be persuaded by defense contracting lobbyists.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Pulling a gun and killing one man really make that much of a difference?
Quality ending. Also saved a lot of money for the Libyan people and Europe all those death penalty issues they get so touchy about.

So the US intervention in Libya was not a war then?

No, it's not.

 

[el retorno]

How is this declaring War on a country?

It's not.

 

[Pctx]

Well of course a trick question for you folks since Congress never ruled on it.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Well of course a trick question for you folks since Congress never ruled on it.

That's not a trick question.

 

[SoulPlaya]

I would say most of the Syrian people fall in that category as well, tbh. With the younger generations it's more or less divided, but overall the country isn't exactly calling for his downfall.

As for him being a good and balanced leader, I don't know of anyone who complained about his leadership or just life in Syria in general, before this all started (though that's not to justify in any way what has happened since). I lived in Egypt for half a year and even then (09 iirc) it wasn't exactly a secret that there wasn't praising support and/or admiration for Mubarak amongst most people. He wasn't all-out hated by the general pubic, but there was certainly a sense of distaste for him all along. That's never been the case for Syria and Assad.


This is more or less true, you can make the argument that they (and Turkey) are arming/supporting the lesser of the two evils, but at the end of the day I have almost no doubt that either side is just fine with collateral damage at the civilians despair. Not to mention that a lot of those who are now armed, aren't even under a true political or structural guise like the free syrian army. Bringing in weapons only causes more chaos in the region and the people are the ones who are getting the brunt force of it.

Just quoting this as this is a very informative post.

 

[Guileless]

So this really doesn't bother anyone huh?

This situation illustrates the limitations of the "If something bad is happening, it's the fault of neocon machinations to consolidate American power and neoliberal orthodoxy" school of thought.

1. For months, the Obama Administration has not done anything besides attempt to enforce a cease fire in the UN, but is blocked by Russia and China.

2. The violence is escalating and the country is getting closer to collapse and wide-scale humanitarian disaster.

3. Regardless of what the US does, the rebels are being armed by Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

4. The Assad regime is a state sponsor of terror that is using planes and tanks against citizens and firing mortars into refugee camps.

5. The rebels are made up of various groups that do include jihadi elements. Whatever the breakdown, they are not a monolothic al Qaeda army.

6. There is an argument for directing aid to the less objectionable elements of the Free Syrian army rather than cede the job to Saudi Arabia and Turkey and hoping for the best.

7. The current strategy has not worked to curtail violence.

 

[Hypnotoad]

1. For months, the Obama Administration has not done anything besides attempt to enforce a cease fire in the UN, but is blocked by Russia and China.

Not quite, there were cease fires and compromises brokered by the UN mission, but the rebels refused them outright. They never compromised at any point, which escalated things by quite a margin.

 

[Guileless]

Kofi Annan (not the corporate media, not the Jews, etc.) primarily blames the government:

"The increasing militarization on the ground and the clear lack of unity in the Security Council have fundamentally changed the circumstances for the effective exercise of my role," he said. "The bloodshed continues, most of all because of the Syrian government's intransigence, and continuing refusal to implement the six-point plan, and also because of the escalating military campaign of the opposition—all of which is compounded by the disunity of the international community."

 

[Sirpopopop]

This situation illustrates the limitations of the "If something bad is happening, it's the fault of neocon machinations to consolidate American power and neoliberal orthodoxy" school of thought.

1. For months, the Obama Administration has not done anything besides attempt to enforce a cease fire in the UN, but is blocked by Russia and China.

2. The violence is escalating and the country is getting closer to collapse and wide-scale humanitarian disaster.

3. Regardless of what the US does, the rebels are being armed by Turkey and Saudi Arabia.

4. The Assad regime is a state sponsor of terror that is using planes and tanks against citizens and firing mortars into refugee camps.

5. The rebels are made up of various groups that do include jihadi elements. Whatever the breakdown, they are not a monolothic al Qaeda army.

6. There is an argument for directing aid to the less objectionable elements of the Free Syrian army rather than cede the job to Saudi Arabia and Turkey and hoping for the best.

7. The current strategy has not worked to curtail violence.

A fair analysis. Usually, we're on different sides of the argument, but I'll say you are being fair here.