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Valkyria Chronicles |OT| Beautiful art meets genre-redefining gameplay
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Isn't this the level where you runDarienA said:
from their giant Tank Marmota
I don't remember it being a difficult level, mostly boring in fact. Maybe you should
only deploy the leaders, for the bonus CPs they give, and one engineer... The more people you take with you, the more difficult it'll be to move everyone in time
I think there's three missions after this one. The next one can be difficult, but I was lucky to find a small "mistake" in the AI
rushing to the south-west camp can give you a chance to take down the objective without letting him repair itself
especially if you use well the smoke grenades
(those are not exactly spoilers, not even ideas of strategies, in fact, but I prefer hiding them if some disagrees)
Yes... The game was not seen by everyone as a real diamond, but there's enough fans of this game so that more and more people discover it. I'm always happy seing this thread on the front page. It's my favorite game on PS3, currently.Durante said:I find it amazing (and encouraging) how often this thread is still being bumped by people who just got the game. And the vast majority of them seem to enjoy it
Durante said:I find it amazing (and encouraging) how often this thread is still being bumped by people who just got the game. And the vast majority of them seem to enjoy it
Well it's a good game, and apparently a slow burner. I'm just happy there is a thread for newbies like me to post in since I got some really useful tips here. I can't believe I missed that I can save mid-mission. I'm gonna savor this game, I think. It's one of those rare games that dares to be different. I like that. I have rather broad game tastes, and I get bored with the same old rather quickly.
That and the game looked like a combination of Fire Emblem and Skies of Arcadia, two of my favorite games from last generation. I pretty much had to check that out. I did not expect
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Giolon
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Generally, I agree. But holy crap, once your "Power" Scout rifles start gaining extra shots over the Accuracy version, they are way better. More shots = more chances to hit and more headshot crits. By the time they become available, your Scouts' innate accuracy skill is usually good enough to offset the loss of Accuracy rank on the gun.
Durante said:I find it amazing (and encouraging) how often this thread is still being bumped by people who just got the game. And the vast majority of them seem to enjoy it
Heh, I got the game a while back (upon release), just finally had a chance to sit down and play through it... and yes I'm loving it, one of the few games of recent times where I can't wait just to sit down and play.
radiantdreamer
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Durante said:
I don't get it. Why are people having difficulty in finding out that you can save mid-mission? It's one of the first things I discovered.
Is it because I expect there to be a save option that typically SRPGs have?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
i noticed the in-mission save right from the start, but i've been consciously avoiding using it. the reason is that most of the time when i screw up a mission it's not because of bad luck (though that happens too) but mostly because i've done something strategically stupid earlier on in the mission. so it makes more sense to replay the mission from scratch, with the knowledge of past tactical mistakes.radiantdreamer said:
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i am a butthurt babby that can only drool in wonder at shiney objects
I think it's just training that a lot of Japanese SRPGs don't have mid-mission saves, or at least just have "save states" that delete themselves when they're reloaded. I know I thought that with Devil Survivor until I learned they were permanent (although there was only one slot.)
I'm glad they've been doing away with that lately, it was a really irksome design element.
I'm glad they've been doing away with that lately, it was a really irksome design element.
radiantdreamer
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what really?
I must be playing the wrong SRPGs then, because most of the ones I play seem to have it...
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oh. right. The last few SRPGs I've played were for handheld. That probably explains it.
I must be playing the wrong SRPGs then, because most of the ones I play seem to have it...
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oh. right. The last few SRPGs I've played were for handheld. That probably explains it.
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The 'H' stands for hentai.
NeoZylom said:
Just keep playing, over and over until you beat it.
Giolon
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NeoZylom said:Clunkiest thing in the gameplay is the tank control. I don't like them at all. May be when I'll get use to it I'll appreciate my tank more
Also, about the scout, the farther they are from the ennemies, the more damage they do right?
No, almost the opposite. Each weapon type has a Range stat. Once you are outside that distance, damage drops off considerably. You'll know you're outside the range because enemies will have some ridiculous "Hits to Kill" number listed on them like 35 instead of the more normal 1-10.
radiantdreamer
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It gets even worse when it says ?? instead of a number.
You'll notice the number changes depending on if you target the body, or the head.
You can do more damage with headshots. Of course, your accuracy at the beginning sucks. Basically the orange circle means the possible range of where the bullets may end up going. Snipers eventually get pin-point accuracy that it becomes impossible to miss (unless the enemy rolls a safe evasion).
To not fail so easily, always pull the trigger to check your range once in a while. If the enemy starts to shoot at you, immediately pull the trigger to "pause" the gameplay and shoot down the guy shooting at you (unless you had another strategy planned).
The yellow/blue/orange sight lines point to enemies on the field. Different colors represent different states. Orange means the enemy has spotted you, and know you're there. Get too close and they'll shoot. I think yellow means you've spotted them, but they haven't spotted you, and blue are your nearby comrades. (is that correct? I can't remember)
Enemies have to reload too. The best time to jump out of cover and make a break for it is when they are reloading. Get as close as you can to them, and pull the trigger just before they start shooting again.
Take your time with moving the tank. You're indestructible during your turn.
Use commands. Sometimes, just using a command can turn the battle completely in your favor if you know when to use it.
You'll notice the number changes depending on if you target the body, or the head.
You can do more damage with headshots. Of course, your accuracy at the beginning sucks. Basically the orange circle means the possible range of where the bullets may end up going. Snipers eventually get pin-point accuracy that it becomes impossible to miss (unless the enemy rolls a safe evasion).
To not fail so easily, always pull the trigger to check your range once in a while. If the enemy starts to shoot at you, immediately pull the trigger to "pause" the gameplay and shoot down the guy shooting at you (unless you had another strategy planned).
The yellow/blue/orange sight lines point to enemies on the field. Different colors represent different states. Orange means the enemy has spotted you, and know you're there. Get too close and they'll shoot. I think yellow means you've spotted them, but they haven't spotted you, and blue are your nearby comrades. (is that correct? I can't remember)
Enemies have to reload too. The best time to jump out of cover and make a break for it is when they are reloading. Get as close as you can to them, and pull the trigger just before they start shooting again.
Take your time with moving the tank. You're indestructible during your turn.
Use commands. Sometimes, just using a command can turn the battle completely in your favor if you know when to use it.
It's indeed strange. To explain : it's relative to the camera (the tank want to move in the direction you use, as any character). But before rolling, it has to turn towards this direction.NeoZylom said:Clunkiest thing in the gameplay is the tank control. I don't like them at all. May be when I'll get use to it I'll appreciate my tank more
The tank choose the shortest turn to the direction you use. So it'll sometimes align its front, sometimes its back. If you want to go in one direction using forward (or reverse) gears, you have to make it turn in the good direction : use the direction of the front (back) and turn it towards the direction you want. Then, roll !
If you don't care, just point the direction you need, and wait for the tank to find the best way to go there. You can align the direction of the tank at the end, anyway.
Are you sure? I don't use the tank much, but I'm pretty sure you're not. Of course, since lancers and tanks don't attack during your turn, the damages will often be very limited, but I'd say that a couple of shots on the radiator on a damaged tank could be deadly...radiantdreamer said:
Definitely (so visit the cemetary several times each chapter, and keep points to buy orders), but it make the game really easy, too...radiantdreamer said:
radiantdreamer
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Koren said:
If you had like, 100hp remaining (that's damn near critical), it would take 100 shots in the radiator for your tank to blow up. All direct shots bounce off. If it was a scout shooting at you, it would take one whole minute and a half of sitting there while being shot at before your tank would blow up.
And early on in the game, as you're trying to learn how to maneuver the tank, this really is a non-issue.
I never move my tank beyond the enemy front anyway, so the radiator is almost never exposed.
Oh, I see what you meant. I fully agree that you shouldn't bother with enemies firing on your tank most of the time. I thought you mean real invincibility, and I was surprised (I think I remember once being scared by my tank HP running low because of shock troopers while I was trying to manoeuver to enter somewhere).radiantdreamer said:
Indeed, at the beginning of the game, the only threat to the tank is the opponent turn.
radiantdreamer
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Koren said:
Even to the later parts of the game, nothing can put a major dent in the tank unless it was a rocket or whatever, and those can't shoot you during your turn. So for all intents and purposes, your tank is indestructible.
Holy crap, chapter 7 almost destroyed me. Was able to do it in one go, and got a B (highest ranking since the first few chapters) where most missions have me playing 50-75% of the mission, seeing what twist shows up, and then getting my ass handed to me :lol Then next time I can have people in the right position, know where to go, ect.
You have 2 turns to rescue dead people right? If that is so, I almost had 4 people gone forever after
showed up. Hot damn that thing is POWERFUL, and don't even think about moving anywhere close to it
You have 2 turns to rescue dead people right? If that is so, I almost had 4 people gone forever after
the blue bitch
rhfb said:Holy crap, chapter 7 almost destroyed me. Was able to do it in one go, and got a B (highest ranking since the first few chapters) where most missions have me playing 50-75% of the mission, seeing what twist shows up, and then getting my ass handed to me :lol Then next time I can have people in the right position, know where to go, ect.
You have 2 turns to rescue dead people right? If that is so, I almost had 4 people gone forever aftershowed up. Hot damn that thing is POWERFUL, and don't even think about moving anywhere close to itthe blue bitch
I just did chapter 7, too. Yeah, the reinforcements on that level are brutal. I actually used the
giant enemy tank
Selvaria
By the way, anyone think
Maximillian
giant tank
The next mission kicked my ass, though. Wonderful change of pace, but wow, one mistake in that mission and it's over. This game is one of those games that would like to inform you that, yes, it has heard of "mercy", it just chooses not to show any. It's not as evil as Fire Emblem, but this is not an easy game. Good, I like it when the games fight back. I'll probably get the second half of 8 done today. I wonder what nasty twist this mission will have...
Actually, you can play withrhfb said:You have 2 turns to rescue dead people right? If that is so, I almost had 4 people gone forever aftershowed up. Hot damn that thing is POWERFUL, and don't even think about moving anywhere close to itthe blue bitch
Selvaria...
Remember that enemies only fire on troops the see, and they have a limited field of view. Use someone (but remain far, be quick, and use heal) to take their attention away, and then sneak behind them with another soldier, they won't spot you.
I used this technique to use a ladder that was maybe three meters away from Selvaria in my first try of this mission, probably one of my best memories of the game since her arrival was indeed a shock... I thus managed to get away without casualties and without retrying against bad odds, which gives a sense of achievement...
You can also win the map before the reinforcements
simply by destroying the three (or at least the two last) radiators in a single blow... It's tricky, but can be done using mortar
KILL THE HERETIC!zoukka said:Just started this game and a few thoughts.
The game is fugly. (DQVIII looks a lot better for example)
The story seems pretty bad. Super cheesy. (Can love bloom on the battlefield
But the gameplay seems fun ebough for me to continue.
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I checked 4 Walmarts in my area last week and found nothing. Are you just talking about your local Walmart?mjc said:
On Chapter 13's mission right now. As someone mentioned above, I used to have more patience for these types of games when I was younger, but now that one little thing that causes you to wipe is starting to wear on me. Still, I love the episodic nature and doing those earlier Skirmishes seeing how stacked you are now compared to then.
I feel like this should see a bump in sales during the holiday season with people picking up the Slim. I know it had been on my radar for a long time as one of the first games I was going to buy after getting a Slim. I have a few friends who feel the same way.
I just wish they would've announced VC2 for PS3 and not PSP...
I feel like this should see a bump in sales during the holiday season with people picking up the Slim. I know it had been on my radar for a long time as one of the first games I was going to buy after getting a Slim. I have a few friends who feel the same way.
I just wish they would've announced VC2 for PS3 and not PSP...
Darkpen said:
I owe you fuzzy wuzzys some more in depth whining about the visuals.
The enviroments are blocky, barren and the texturing is minimal. The ugly photoshop filter is a hit & miss, because it kinda masks the simple graphics while looking annoying. The character models are very simple and crudely animated. But the worst thing about them is the anime style that has nothing original going on. Very uninspired.
I guess it was the whole "happy style and anime" that got people together and praise the games visuals. Nothing else can explain it really.
And my god at the cliches in the body language of the characters... and they underline this by playing them so slowly D:
Just beat the first few levels and rushing in for headshots seems a good strategy so far. This game is so ridiculous in portraying any kind of "strategy" or war. But still it's pretty fun so far. I guess you need to shoot that glowing weak point on the tanks in the future...
radiantdreamer
Member
zoukka said:
I agree with you in terms of the art. But there aren't many anime games on PS3, so I welcomed this game with open arms, and grew to like and understand their art direction.
My initial knee-jerk reaction of the art and its characters wasn't really justified in the end. Many people seems to have that same reaction (like you Zoukka). I know you'll grow to appreciate what this game gives. And if it doesn't, I do hope you enjoyed every moment of the gameplay, (and if not, I hope you rot in hell).
Wasn't really a big fan of the Edy's Detachment DLC... the strategy seemed much too rigid and reliant on luck, especially to get the A rank. Also I hated being stuck with a buncha useless characters, I hardly ever used Engineers/Snipers in my playthrough of the regular game.
Now, on to Selvaria's DLC... and after that I think I am done with the game for now. Not gonna bother with Skirmish 9 or playing on hard or any of that jazz.
Now, on to Selvaria's DLC... and after that I think I am done with the game for now. Not gonna bother with Skirmish 9 or playing on hard or any of that jazz.
It may seems, but it's not...djtiesto said:
It's rather a clever hide'n seek party in the small streets: you're doing the same than in Largo's side mission, but in reverse. Don't even try to go front, it's useless... You can use the tower to snipe, though, it's helpful. And you REALLY need to turn your soldiers in the base to catch any enemy movement as soon as they go out of cover... fire during enemy turn may seem random and based on luck, but it's rather a matter of choosing position/direction of each defenders.
That's a problem... But both are indeed useful in this mission (engineers to resupply the lancer to quickly handle tank, snipers to lower the number of enemies when you try to go out of the base).djtiesto said:
Phife Dawg
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Just wait until youzoukka said:
get the order to up damage vs tanks-a scout can kill a heavy tank in two turns when shooting at the weak point :lol
Johnlenham
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Started playing this again yesterday and am on the mission where its just you and the girl sneaking through the woods avoiding the mortars and after fucking it up 3 times by getting shot to hell by two machine gun dudes i said nuts to this and turned it off :lol
Didnt realize you could midsave, that could have saved some time -_-
Didnt realize you could midsave, that could have saved some time -_-
radiantdreamer
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zoukka said:
I keep thinking Giant Enemy Crab on that one.
MASSIVE DAMAGE!
I just did this mission like 20 mins ago. Got a B rank, wasn't really that hard. The key to my success was the fact that the immortal guy you have to kill (well, I guess you don't have to) has such a short range, and when your two chars are next to each other, they help out on firing. No point in worrying about the searchlights as the map is basically setup where you can always find a safe spot to end your turn in.Johnlenham said:
I also think that all class are valuable (even if you can do everything with a powered-up Alicia ), but you can avoid using some of them if you don't want to optimize you strategy.
Kinda like Advance Wars, in fact: you can win all battles using a very limited number of units (mechs or tank swarms...) but if you want to really be efficient, all units are useful (yes, including cruisers)
), but you can avoid using some of them if you don't want to optimize you strategy.Kinda like Advance Wars, in fact: you can win all battles using a very limited number of units (mechs or tank swarms...) but if you want to really be efficient, all units are useful (yes, including cruisers)
It's even funnierPhife Dawg said:
to kill an heavy tank using two shots in the hull from a sniper at the opposite side of the map using orders (Penetrate, Demolition and Weak Point)
Well, I'm slowly but steadily progressing through the game. I'm having a little trouble getting good ranks on the missions, except episode 9. My first B. That was a nice chuck of EXP. Got a little flash of inspiration on that one and it worked perfectly. I could probably have ended it a turn sooner, but I didn't have the CP needed to pull it off. I noticed something, though. It varies how much CP I have, even from different attempts at the same mission. How do I know how much CP I'll have per turn?
I noticed Alicia, Rosie, and Largo each come with a CP icon on their portrait, which apparently translates into another CP recovered per turn, but are there any other ways to increase my CP amount? In a rather vague, non-spoiler way, do I get more CP granting characters? (The suspicious double break between the weapon upgrades and the Edelweiss upgrades and that it says "Outfit Tanks" suggests that I might.) I figure that more CP means I can finish missions faster and get more EXP.
Eh, if I'm running low on EXP, I'll just run some skirmishes. Got the first one down to one turn on normal now. Alicia is getting rather strong, when she's not getting shot by a Shocktrooper.
I noticed Alicia, Rosie, and Largo each come with a CP icon on their portrait, which apparently translates into another CP recovered per turn, but are there any other ways to increase my CP amount? In a rather vague, non-spoiler way, do I get more CP granting characters? (The suspicious double break between the weapon upgrades and the Edelweiss upgrades and that it says "Outfit Tanks" suggests that I might.) I figure that more CP means I can finish missions faster and get more EXP.
Eh, if I'm running low on EXP, I'll just run some skirmishes. Got the first one down to one turn on normal now. Alicia is getting rather strong, when she's not getting shot by a Shocktrooper.
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