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[Dyne]

Chapter 7 is not bad once you get the hang of it.

It may take multiple tries.

My strategy was, deploy 5 lancers, and expect at least one to die.

First, put Rosie on the southern deployment and climb the hill to the south of her IMMEDIATELY. Sit in the trenches and watch her rip through every single unit that is thrown at her from the north-east.

Next, have one go to the south east to take out the ruins (by hitting the grey blocks so they fall over right away, DON'T take them out), have two stationed just below your west/middle base, and have two stay where they are in the top deployment, that follow the Batomys one the guns are out. Hammer the guns with the tank and your lancers safely. Keep the tank BACK. Don't deploy it past the second base. It will get demolished. Instead, keep it behind the ruins to the right of your first base. If you plan it well, you only need to the Batomys to fire three times. Just keep your lancers trailing behind it and hammer it in the radiators whenever you get the chance.

Once it's killing time, hit it with your lancer's ammo first until it runs out (all five, including the one hiding in the south ruins after taking out all the blue ruins.) Pound that mother. You should be able to take it out in two turns, exactly when Selvaria catches up to the tank and hides behind it.

Fairly simple; I can see how you'd fail easily if you didn't drop the ruins in time though.

 

[rykomatsu]

You are preaching to the choir.

You and like...4 others in the thread != choir

 

[Hcoregamer00]

You and like...4 others in the thread != choir

That's okay, the Lolicons have their character, the fetishists have theirs, the Tsundere fans have their character so everyone wins.

(except furries, of course no one wants them to win)

 

[Baha]

My strategy was, deploy 5 lancers, and expect at least one to die.

First, put Rosie on the southern deployment and climb the hill to the south of her IMMEDIATELY. Sit in the trenches and watch her rip through every single unit that is thrown at her from the north-east.

Next, have one go to the south east to take out the ruins (by hitting the grey blocks so they fall over right away, DON'T take them out), have two stationed just below your west/middle base, and have two stay where they are in the top deployment, that follow the Batomys one the guns are out. Hammer the guns with the tank and your lancers safely. Keep the tank BACK. Don't deploy it past the second base. It will get demolished. Instead, keep it behind the ruins to the right of your first base. If you plan it well, you only need to the Batomys to fire three times. Just keep your lancers trailing behind it and hammer it in the radiators whenever you get the chance.

Once it's killing time, hit it with your lancer's ammo first until it runs out (all five, including the one hiding in the south ruins after taking out all the blue ruins.) Pound that mother. You should be able to take it out in two turns, exactly when Selvaria catches up to the tank and hides behind it.

Fairly simple; I can see how you'd fail easily if you didn't drop the ruins in time though.

Eh, I didn't lose anyone that map because of 2 things, 1) between turns where the radiators weren't exposed and enemy ground troops were already died as well as the turrets on Batomy were destroyed, I saved a lot of CP and 2) all my lancers + engineers were on the bottom of the map hiding near ruins when Selveria appeared and the Edelweiss could easily wipe out her elite unit in 2-3 moves. The ruins on the left side of Batomy where Selveria was guarding the last radiator helped me sneak my lancer in for the kill and get out safely. I had enough CP left over to wipe out the Batomy before Selveria could move and the Batomy itself provided cover from her while my lancers on the right side attacked. It actually worked to my advantage to have the last radiator on the left side since Selveria would stay there and defend it rather than hunt down my lancers on the other side.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

If you look hard you can make out what's in each picture.

Yeah, they pretty much ruin all the major plot twists before it is supposed to happen. They really need to fix this for the next game (if there is one)

spoiler for the entire game

Spoiler

They ruin Isara's death, Alicia turning into a Valkyria, Selvaria's death, etc

 

[Shadow780]

That's okay, the Lolicons have their character, the fetishists have theirs, the Tsundere fans have their character so everyone wins.

(except furries, of course no one wants them to win)

Not enough boobies, Selvaria is lonely...

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Not enough boobies, Selvaria is lonely...

No she isn't, the cast has some well endowed females that are not as obvious as Selvaria

Spoiler

*Cough* Alicia and Elanor *Cough*

 

[TheExodu5]

Yeah, they pretty much ruin all the major plot twists before it is supposed to happen. They really need to fix this for the next game (if there is one)

spoiler for the entire game

Spoiler

They ruin Isara's death, Alicia turning into a Valkyria, Selvaria's death, etc

WHY DID I HIGHLIGHT THAT!? I don't know why my brain always highlights stuff when I not I'm not supposed to. It's a twitch reaction.

Spoiler

:

:*(

 

[Shadow780]

No she isn't, the cast has some well endowed females that are not as obvious as Selvaria

Spoiler

*Cough* Alicia *Cough*

Which looks like cherry compare to Selvaria~:lol

 

[Hcoregamer00]

WHY DID I HIGHLIGHT THAT!? I don't know why my brain always highlights stuff when I not I'm not supposed to. It's a twitch reaction.

Spoiler

I warned you, it is your fault for doing so when I gave clear warning.

Which looks like cherry compare to Selvaria~:lol

Yeah, if your standard is porn stars.

 

[TheExodu5]

I warned you, it is your fault for doing so when I gave clear warning.

Thankfully I only saw the first point...I noticed the second name and completely blanked out after that.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Thankfully I only saw the first point...I noticed the second name and completely blanked out after that.

Don't feel bad, I was spoiled to this plot twist when I was in the Japanese thread for this game. It doesn't take away the impact when you see it happen.

Personally I don't mind if I am spoiled to a plot twist as long as the developer does a good job developing the storyline. Frankly, I find it far more interesting to see what led to the plot twist rather than the event itself. The Japanese do it all the time when they preview the next episode for the anime.

 

[Durante]

Tycho wrote about it on Penny-Arcade today!

"I could write a thousand words every day for a week on either the design or the art. It's an index of our progress as a species that you can get both on the same disc."
Wow. I thought I was gushing. He's right of course.

But wow, it's so satisfying to watch the sniper round fly towards the enemy's head

I agree, the (extremely floaty) ragdoll physics also help with that feeling of satisfaction. I love it when an enemy on the other side of the battlefield almost flips over after I hit him :lol

 

[Dyne]

I agree, the (extremely floaty) ragdoll physics also help with that feeling of satisfaction. I love it when an enemy on the other side of the battlefield almost flips over after I hit him :lol

Oh hell yeah, there's nothing like a team attack on a poor unsuspecting sniper from behind.

 

[Baha]

I'm up to chapter 16 now and I'm really taking my sweet time with this. I've been spending most of my time lately to unlock potentials for every recruit and fill out their personnel pages. Btw is the 3rd paragraph only filled out after you beat the game or can you fill it out earlier.

Oh and just for kicks, I did skirmish 2 with an all trooper team and I can't believe just how badly I decimated the enemy. I can take out other soldiers in 1-4 hits and the tanks only take 10 hits to the radiator. Really can't wait for new game+.

 

[HylianScribe]

That's okay, the Lolicons have their character, the fetishists have theirs, the Tsundere fans have their character so everyone wins.

(except furries, of course no one wants them to win)

Selvaria reminds me of and looks to much like C.C. from Code Geass. I was half expecting her to bust out some "code" nonsense with Maximillian trying to make the perfect empire with their pact...

 

[Facism]

"I could write a thousand words every day for a week on either the design or the art. It's an index of our progress as a species that you can get both on the same disc."
Wow. I thought I was gushing. He's right of course.

It feels like a game i would have rushed out on friday morning to buy and play all day on my Dreamcast.

 

[JumpJeff84]

Fuck. Still can't find this anywhere in Vancouver....

 

[UpperCaseN]

I'm about 3 hours in so far.

Major contender for my personal favorite game of all time. I'll make that decision after I finish the game, but I absolutely adore this game right now.

 

[∀ Narayan]

Man. I'm on Chapter 14 and now I have 42 hours clocked in.

I have those three Ellet Reports to do, and then I have to skirmish... Just so I can level everyone up again.

This game is wearing me down. I think I'll take a break from it, for now.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Played demo today and enjoyed it. Will buy it when my backlog shrinks some more. But sooner than later. (Thinking xmas)

Good thing I am working over break...

 

[Dyne]

Fuck. Still can't find this anywhere in Vancouver....

I was going to say "man that sucks" but I decided to search four random future shops. Here are the results.

They all apparently have it.

 

[Farnack]

Fuck. Still can't find this anywhere in Vancouver....

Yeah, they aren't made too visible.

Bestbuy Metro had it in the cage and no box on the shelf.

Futureshop told me they were all stolen when I was there.

 

[JEKKI]

I beat Chapter 7... it took me like 3 hours -_-

this game is ass... I mean it's good but it throws strategy way the hell out the window when all your shots miss.

I completely figured out the level and ended up beating it with an A, but I had to restart it A LOT of times coz hella times my Lancers would miss all 3 shots, recharge them with my Engineer, still misses, use my accuracy command on them, STILL misses

-_-

 

[Phthisis]

I beat Chapter 7... it took me like 3 hours -_-

this game is ass... I mean it's good but it throws strategy way the hell out the window when all your shots miss.

I completely figured out the level and ended up beating it with an A, but I had to restart it A LOT of times coz hella times my Lancers would miss all 3 shots, recharge them with my Engineer, still misses, use my accuracy command on them, STILL misses

-_-

I've had shots with the Edelweiss where I'm aiming at a soldier literally 5 feet in front of me, and the shell comes out of the barrel at a physically impossible angle because the game decides it's going to make me miss. Pisses me off; that's just poor design. The whole accuracy thing ruined the game for me; if you're going to make me manually aim, then you can't take my aim skills away from me and make them invalid.

 

[tehbear]

I've had shots with the Edelweiss where I'm aiming at a soldier literally 5 feet in front of me, and the shell comes out of the barrel at a physically impossible angle because the game decides it's going to make me miss. Pisses me off; that's just poor design. The whole accuracy thing ruined the game for me; if you're going to make me manually aim, then you can't take my aim skills away from me and make them invalid.

You aren't using your skills to aim any more than you are using your skills to select a target. You can take all the time in the world so I wouldn't treat that part as "aim skills" until they make it real time or something. Movement seems to be more of a skill to me.

 

[Farnack]

I beat Chapter 7... it took me like 3 hours -_-

this game is ass... I mean it's good but it throws strategy way the hell out the window when all your shots miss.

I completely figured out the level and ended up beating it with an A, but I had to restart it A LOT of times coz hella times my Lancers would miss all 3 shots, recharge them with my Engineer, still misses, use my accuracy command on them, STILL misses

-_-

Get a little closer next time. There is a crosshair with a circle showing you the accuracy. The strategy is getting into a good position for a real good shot.

 

[Dice]

Yeah, they pretty much ruin all the major plot twists before it is supposed to happen. They really need to fix this for the next game (if there is one)

Heh, who needs the chapter pictures when you have the intro movie? That thing showed way too much, I wish I could have forgotten it.

 

[Shouta]

I just started this game, man it rocks.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Heh, who needs the chapter pictures when you have the intro movie? That thing showed way too much, I wish I could have forgotten it.

Very true, I mention that many times.

For you new Valkyria players IGNORE THE OPENING MOVIE.

I just started this game, man it rocks.

Hope you enjoy the rest of the experience, it gets even better.

 

[Facism]

For you new Valkyria players IGNORE THE OPENING MOVIE.

You know, i watched it a couple of times because of the music, and none of what i saw ever stuck in my mind.

Good for me D:

 

[crowphoenix]

Very true, I mention that many times.

For you new Valkyria players IGNORE THE OPENING MOVIE.

Unfortunately, I was in here when you guys were talking about it last and had a stupid case of "Ooooo, Spoiler! Nooo!" Ah well. It's still likely to be another month before I play it so I'll probably forget.

 

[jmonteiro]

I'm playing to many games at the same time but tonight I'm finally going to do Chapter 7. I hope it's as challenging as people say

 

[DarknessTear]

For you new Valkyria players IGNORE THE OPENING MOVIE.

I ended up seeing the spoiler on the demo when it came out. :lol

 

[Volcynika]

PS3 Fanboy posted their review: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/17/ps3-fanboy-review-valkyria-chronicles/

OH NOZ NO MULTIPLAYER.

 

[fistwell_old]

Really can't wait for new game+.

How's the game+ handled? Do you keep levels and equipment, with tougher enemies?

You know, i watched it a couple of times because of the music, and none of what i saw ever stuck in my mind.

Same here. The only thing that stood out was

Spoiler

welks and alicia having a moment... near the tank... how romantic...

I'm playing to many games at the same time but tonight I'm finally going to do Chapter 7. I hope it's as challenging as people say

As has been said, it's not all that difficult. It's just kinda long, with several opportunities to fuck up, and some of the things you need to do could have been more clearly stated.

Spoiler

I thought i was supposed to blow up the walls, which was taking forever. Was relieved to see a single grenade at the base would bring them down.

There were several chapters before 7 that i had to retry several times, but i beat 7 on the first attempt, with a B. And it's not exactly exceptional either, several people did just that.

 

[badcrumble]

PS3 Fanboy posted their review: http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/11/17/ps3-fanboy-review-valkyria-chronicles/

OH NOZ NO MULTIPLAYER.

Ordinarily hitting an RPG for lack of multiplayer would be bullshit, but in the case of VC it's because multiplayer would be fucking INCREDIBLE.

 

[Hcoregamer00]

You know, i watched it a couple of times because of the music, and none of what i saw ever stuck in my mind.

Good for me D:

That is good for you, the opening movie really ruins the game.

Especially if you played the first couple of missions and got a handle of the basic storyline.

Ordinarily hitting an RPG for lack of multiplayer would be bullshit, but in the case of VC it's because multiplayer would be fucking INCREDIBLE.

I disagree with that, but we all have our own opinions.

 

[UpperCaseN]

been looking for figures, looks like they had a set of 4 pvc figures but are hard to find now. looks like a different set is set to release in february, but I want them now! weird how Welkin isn't any of them

 

[badcrumble]

I disagree with that, but we all have our own opinions.

Obviously it'd need some balancing/matching, but really I think that as long as it didn't lower the development time for any of the rest of the game, competitive multiplayer would be fun and very strategic and if you didn't like it you could always not play it. However, none of the stages in the game are really made with that in mind, so there would need to be special multiplayer maps. I'm genuinely curious though, why do you think it wouldn't be fun to go up against other people in this game?

 

[fistwell_old]

I'm genuinely curious though, why do you think it wouldn't be fun to go up against other people in this game?

They've had that discussion before, in this very thread i think. One reason cited was that you have all the time you want to play out your turn, so chances are you'd have to wait forever for the opponent to do his thing, now and then. Balance problems, also, because the game is geared towards your few guys taking out a lot of people.

For the record, i do agree with you. I can't think of any issue that couldn't be fairly easily addressed. But yeah, opinions are like buttholes.

 

[Kyoufu]

Multi-player? Are you guys kidding me?

 

[fistwell_old]

Multi-player? Are you guys kidding me?

No. We're RADICAL!

 

[Durante]

Ordinarily hitting an RPG for lack of multiplayer would be bullshit, but in the case of VC it's because multiplayer would be fucking INCREDIBLE.

While with a lot of tweaking it could be a nice addition, I think it's a very bad reason to give the game a lower score.

Basically it's like saying "the strategy gameplay in this is so awesome and far beyond other SRPGs that I want a multiplayer feature and it doesn't have it, so it gets a lower score" -- that seems to me like reducing the score because the gameplay is "too good" for the genre.

 

[badcrumble]

While with a lot of tweaking it could be a nice addition, I think it's a very bad reason to give the game a lower score.

Basically it's like saying "the strategy gameplay in this is so awesome and far beyond other SRPGs that I want a multiplayer feature and it doesn't have it, so it gets a lower score" -- that seems to me like reducing the score because the gameplay is "too good" for the genre.

Did they actually reduce the score for that? If so, yeah, that's bullshit.

I think the whole waiting issue with multiplayer could be very neatly addressed with a decent time limit - something like a competitive chess clock.

 

[fistwell_old]

Did they actually reduce the score for that? If so, yeah, that's bullshit.

I think the whole waiting issue with multiplayer could be very neatly addressed with a decent time limit - something like a competitive chess clock.

Yes and yes.

 

[∀ Narayan]

This doesn't need multi-player. I'd much rather have a deep single-player experience with high replay value.

 

[badcrumble]

This doesn't need multi-player. I'd much rather have a deep single-player experience with high replay value.

It doesn't need it, it's absolutely a complete and very satisfying package, but that doesn't mean that multiplayer wouldn't make it even better. It's ridiculous to dock the score for not having it but it'd be fun to try a competitive version of the game.

 

[bigswords]

I played the demo and it's awesome, going to grab this. Oh how do you use the engineer to give ammo to the other characters?

 

[UpperCaseN]

I played the demo and it's awesome, going to grab this. Oh how do you use the engineer to give ammo to the other characters?

while moving the engineer, just run up to whoever you want them to give supplies to, you'll hear a chime. You can run past them too, you don't have to stop and hit a button or anything, just make contact and you got it.