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Valkyria Chronicles PC |OT| May the bloodline live forever
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That's a good thing. No one's perfect.
TaroYamada
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For all the Hans lovers I've prepared a special selection:
One thing is for sure, if someone had asked me a few months ago when VC would appear on Steam, I'd have said "when pigs fly".
That's the deep philosophical metaphor. Gallia will take the imperial army down when pigs fly. Not unlike Finland vs Russia in the winter war.
Need a mission on a giant map filled with respawning enemies and only Marina and some engineer as playable characters. Kill 505 enemy soldiers to win the mission.
ShadowSoldier89
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if you dont mind doing skirmish missions to make up for lost XP, I would say definitely play whatever way makes the fights more fun to you.
Isn't that one of the challenge missions.
yeah, I think I'm going about this with the wrong mindset (screw you, Advance Wars). Haven't yet felt the need to replay any of the skirmishes since the missions are quite manageable so far
Basileus777
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But Finland lost the Winter War.
Aisha: "I wanna be a soldier."
Military: "No."
Aisha: "I REALLY REALLY wanna be a soldier."
Military: "Damn, look at those puppy eyes."
Uh~ I look forward to this.
What.
They didn't have flying pigs.
the 12yo soldier is definitely the biggest offender of 'what the hell is this' to me
it's them attempting to apply the 'child genius' archetype to a grunt and using that as their justification for her existence with little afterthought
so basically she's the root of the evil found in VC2
meanwhile, i really wish shock troopers had more AP. i wanna just rambo things with jane but she can never get to anywhere in time
it's them attempting to apply the 'child genius' archetype to a grunt and using that as their justification for her existence with little afterthought
so basically she's the root of the evil found in VC2
meanwhile, i really wish shock troopers had more AP. i wanna just rambo things with jane but she can never get to anywhere in time
... but then they'd be completely imbalanced. I mean, the only thing scouts really have going for them is their AP, and that alone makes them almost too good already
Well that and their super high range and accuracy.... but then they'd be completely imbalanced. I mean, the only thing scouts really have going for them is their AP, and that alone makes them almost too good already
Nightengale
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Just like the 'Ragnite', 'flying pigs' and the "Valkyrian superhumans", the teenager enlisted soldiers are part and parcel of the 'Valkyria universe', for better or worse.
They do try to justify that in-universe logic, because military education is compulsory in Gallia, thus we have common civilians with military-level arms proficiency, etc. It's awkward, but it is what it is.
They do try to justify that in-universe logic, because military education is compulsory in Gallia, thus we have common civilians with military-level arms proficiency, etc. It's awkward, but it is what it is.
Lostconfused
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Yang Wenli.
Speaking of which. Somebody should give us the the amazing looking Legend of the Galactic Heroes videogame
Snipers are much better in both of those though. It really comes down to AP.
Or better yet, Lin Shu Rock Yalulug Dril Hydal Jinto
Game would be so much better with an APC for driving snipers through the map.
fluffydelusions
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That first tank mission where you had to wait for welkins? Yeah died about 5 or 6 times on that one. I was concentrating on killing all the soldiers and stuff.
Then I just waited for welkins and 2 shotted the tank in the blue radiator.
Yes, but the effective shooting range really adds to this. If they were only very fast and nothing else, they wouldn't be so strong. Objectives are guarded and if they were not able to effectively kill guarding Shocktroopers, being fast alone wouldn't bring as much to the table. It's really both - movement and effective range that makes them almost broken.
Retreating at one camp and re-joining at another does almost the same thing. With a one turn delay of course, but that's a good thing because even with that delay it's very useful.
Lol.
Or wait, are yo utalking about the DLC skirmish missions? Because if so, you really shouldn't attempt those until the endgame.
Hey, at least he's 22, not fucking 16. Goddamn teenage heroes.
Is there some more documentation anywhere about the file formats?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I don't get the criticism on this either. Small nation, no large military requiring conscription in time of war, it would be natural to promote university students into junior officer roles. It's not like he's leading a company or batallion or regiment.
Though I did find it odd that Varrot is lead of a regiment and not a company, given that she's just a Captain. Could just be that Gallia's lacking enough senior officers to fill things out properly, or they're just mixing up the terms company and regiment and the Gallia militia has a different structure.
i never said my request was reasonable! i just wanna make those dirty imps pay... but then they'd be completely imbalanced. I mean, the only thing scouts really have going for them is their AP, and that alone makes them almost too good already
Only source I know is that thread on xentax with the Blender script.
Especially since his father was a legendary war hero. Just keep in mind that General is in his job mainly because his grandfather was a great war hero, not because he is very competent.
And sometimes you'll get new potentials for the classes you level up.
Given that a squad leader is a Lieutenant, I'll guess that Gallia does not follow the standard military structure.
You guys can joke about flying pigs, underage military brass, vegetables, wacko characters, the power of friendship and love, etc. all you want.
The anime trope which annoyed me the most was actually General Damon. His sole existence is to annoy and aggravate the shit out of you at every turn.
The anime trope which annoyed me the most was actually General Damon. His sole existence is to annoy and aggravate the shit out of you at every turn.
I'm gonna start consulting a guide. I don't know why I ever listen to people who say not to do it. I'm sorry, but I don't enjoy wasting 30-60 minutes of my time just learning what *not* to do in some games. Currently in a mission where I have to stop this armored truck and I have no idea how to do it. Doesn't help that when you first start the mission, you really have no idea what you're gonna have to deal with. So right off the bat, I had to restart because I didn't understand the sort of classes I'd need to deploy. And I'm still not entirely sure how do this effectively. I need to send multiple people out together cuz one person is useless cuz you can only attack once in a turn and you need that to deal with soldiers. But the game spreads single units out for you all over. I'm guessing deploy certain soldiers out to help the other ones? Doesn't help that there's no cover. You can hide behind walls but if an enemy runs up around the corner, you're basically dead. And then you've gotta waste a turn or two running somebody out to rescue them....sigh
And new orders. And don't forget that your classes become Elite when they hit level 11, which gives more movement and in some cases new weapons liek the flamethrower.
Is that really an anime trope? Incompetent military leaders who are in their position more because their family and blood than anything else aren't anything that only happens in anime. Hell, there were enough of them idiots in real life. Just ask Napaleon what he thinks of general Ney.
petran79
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a less serious version of Legend of the Galactic Heroes
yeah, it was the System option. thought it had only options like visuals and language, not save game! small difference anyway, game loads so fast compared to ps3 that this is not needed except later in the game. I prefer playing full battles from the beginning. When things get longer later on, I'll consider saving mid-battle.
Huh? You can save and load starting from the very first battle. In map mode, press triangle on the controller, or Y, or whatever it is on your pad
yeah, it was the System option. thought it had only options like visuals and language, not save game! small difference anyway, game loads so fast compared to ps3 that this is not needed except later in the game. I prefer playing full battles from the beginning. When things get longer later on, I'll consider saving mid-battle.
Hahahaha the armored car mission... I swear that mission was intentionally designed to make people feel like chumps
Not so much in theory as much as in execution. Right down to both Japanese and English VA.
You can beat it with 1 shocktrooper on turn 2 by NOT following the mission advice, and letting the car through that first point instead of blocking it with the tank. Then you buff your shocktrooper and go to town
Not so much in theory as much as in execution. Right down to both Japanese and English VA.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
True...plus Gallia's squads are closer to platoons than squads anyway, which would make the LT rank make a little more sense.
skLaFarebear
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Use your tank to block the path for the armored truck to make it take the long way around (or don't and lure it into a certain area), then you gotta get behind the thing and destroy it with your shocktroopers. Just make sure you don't use explosions or its game over.
A huge tip, use those orders from the edelweiss to buff your soldiers offense/defense. They significantly help in this mission and down the stretch of the game.
Its not too hard a mission, but I can see how it is annoying since you really don't know much about the terrain.
Nightengale
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GeneralFailure is a pretty universal trope that's employed by both western/eastern media of all target audience.
This mission can be really easy if you don't block the armored truck path and put shock troopers at the intersection the car's going to cross. Also you can attack multiple time during a turn, just select the same unit again.
Haunted
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Yup. The ranking system actively punishes you for playing the game in the most rewarding and fun way, making use of all of its tools. Or you can just run in with OP scouts and end most missions in 2 turns for an S ranking, lol.
It's the game's biggest design flaw, imo.
I actually didn't remember too many of these, but on replay... yeah. Some are worse than others. Especially that 12 year old cheerfully being conscripted into war really didn't sit right with me this time around.
After never having played this on the PS3, went ahead and grabbed it last night for PC. 4k --> 1080p via DSR working great on a G1 970 + 3570k (stock), vsync locked steady 60fps, Xbox 360 controller works great, playing on big screen TV. As others have mentioned, cutscene quality is gross, but in-game play is great. Looking forward to spending a lot of time in this game.
Yeah, that was what I discovered too, after trying so hard to do as recommended. But it's really nice to have a mission you can make easier by thinking outside of the path you are given.
Can't argue with that.
I bet you use all your underage child soldiers to clear mines.
That's a great idea, gotta keep that in mind when I get this 12-year old everyone keeps talking about
e: i'll teach him/her a life lesson by brutally forcing him/her to kill themself. that'll show the other kids how much fun war really is.
In my country you are lieutnant by 21 if you follow the standard path. We are a militia as well.
but also at peace.
They kinda have similarity too. Both have interest that unrelated to war but bolster their warfare skill somehow (history and nature) and turned them into great tactician. My word on Welkin is purely my interpretation since he's the in-game commander. If VC anime done similarly like LoGH, I bet most Welkin victories is the result of utilizing geographical knowledge to his advantage.
lol
If only VC have at least 1/10 of LoGH quality of tone consistency, VC will become 10x better.
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