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[CuteFaceJay]

Extra funny that it happened to grummz. That guy is a grifter of epic proportions.

Having said that, it's pretty absurd people still get banned for this in any game.

"Still"? This is the first time I've heard of folks getting banned for this.

 

[Laptop1991]

They probably banned him without knowing who he is.



…Because they were making Starfield



It's been banned for a while now. Here's a 2020 post from the ESO forums

Odds are that Grummz did this knowing this would be the outcome. And it worked. He's got another story to push hard now.

No they wern't making Starfield when they were making ESO and Starfield isn't an excuse either, Obsidian offered to make a new SP TES and a Fallout and Zenimax turned them down which means Bethesda did as well! lol

 

[hemo memo]

Every game has the right to shape their ToS to suit whatever they feel is best for their players. If people lack the emotional control not to break it or lack the creativity to get around it, don't complain when you get the boot. Trolling people or just flat out being awful isn't a virtue.

Imagine if FIFA listened to this post. Would they ban player celebrations because it hurts the other team's feelings?

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Who tf gets offended by teabagging in games?

Never understood that.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

Blizzard removed a bunch of emotes from WoW a few years back to cater to snowflakes.

/spit - you spit on another player
/shake - you shake your butt at another player
/moon - your drop your pants and moon another player

Even /pounce, which says you pounce on another player (many druids used this while in cat form, cause you know, cats pounce on things).

All removed because they were considered too aggressive or sexually compromising to "vulnerable" players.

Yep. Modern gaming and modern audiences.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Imagine if FIFA listened to this post. Would they ban player celebrations because it hurts the other team's feelings?

Celebrating a win is significantly different than giving a "fuck you" to the enemy team. It's wild that people can't separate the two.

 

[Ozriel]

Imagine if FIFA listened to this post. Would they ban player celebrations because it hurts the other team's feelings?

You mean like when they give people yellow cards for excessive celebration in real life football games?

FFS, you guys are ridiculous. Punishing excessive or mocking celebrations is literally in FIFA's rulebook

 

[Shubh_C63]

Imagine if FIFA listened to this post. Would they ban player celebrations because it hurts the other team's feelings?

Goal celebrations are present in real life, teabagging isn't.
Not defending teabagging, just saying not a fair comparison.

Mimic of real life in digital platforms is never the issue, actually it is preferred by agenda makers and companies.

 

[Bombolone]

Everyday I am given the gift of perspective to have gratitude for growing up in the 90s/2000s.
lol, lmao even.

 

[digital_ghost]

God bless Microsoft for letting me getting away with teabagging on halo so many years.

 

[Itchy Tickles]

What if you get accused of teabagging but you say you identify as a woman and its actually a coffee beaning?

I remember a year or 2 ago some fucking IQ challenged attention seekers were saying that teabagging was sexual assault... Can you imagine it gets to the extreme of being accused and imprisoned of sexual assualt / rape because someone had a dream you did it?

Convicted of rape based on a dream, man relishes freedom after 28 years

In 1987, a woman accused Clarence Moses-El of a brutal assault yet a recent ruling is the latest twist in an embittered campaign to exonerate him

www.theguardian.com

The world gives some people too much attention and power instead of medical intervention or at least education not done on social media.

 

[nikos]

I would have thought an appeal telling them to read the chat logs would have cleared that up quickly

My appeal was denied today. I did tell him he was a fucking idiot before disconnecting because he was mocking everything I said like a child. Apparently that's a slur.

 

[killatopak]

On one hand we have in game lore of the emperor Reman cumming on his fallen enemies.


Then we ban teabagging.

 

[nikos]

The internet was a mistake. It has elevated idiots, rotted our brains, and given too much power to those who shouldn't wield it.

@nikos' overwatch anecdote just reminds me how fucking toxic every online game has become. You literally cannot play with anyone but friends or hell breaks loose. Between cheaters, griefers, bad sports and thin skinned pussies, it's just too much.

So many people don't use voice chat anymore in fear of a ban or because they think (with good reason) that it will turn into an argument, which is horrible for team based games that really benefit from it.

Even when a few people are on voice and work together, the game feels so much better. It's a great experience and often turns a loss into a win.

 

[Nydius]

Celebrating a win is significantly different than giving a "fuck you" to the enemy team. It's wild that people can't separate the two.

If I had to guess, I'd say you're one of those thin skinned types who think "GG EZ" is so offensive people should be banned for it.

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

Yea this is the main reason I don't do MP. I do miss the days of WoW and Ventrillo. Back then you could get kicked from a guild or muted for awhile but you had to be over the top excessive. I have no idea what it's like now but wouldn't risk my characters.

You've reminded me of this classic



Those were the days

 

[Fortress of Regrets]

Haha. Grummz, what a baby-man. Dude is like 60, perpetually grifting his baby-flock and behaving like a 12 year old. He's like the proto-incel.

 

[lughnasadh123]

If I had to guess, I'd say you're one of those thin skinned types who think "GG EZ" is so offensive people should be banned for it.

Are you the one getting banned for it?

I play a shit ton of OW/2 and it's hilarious how many use GGEZ as a brain dead insult and then hiding behind "GG is just good sportsmanship" defense after. lmao. Also the type of players that only says GG when they win.

 

[mckmas8808]

It's been banned for a while now. Here's a 2020 post from the ESO forums

Odds are that Grummz did this knowing this would be the outcome. And it worked. He's got another story to push hard now.

It's so funny to see people just act like they don't know what he's doing. It keeps working because there's a market to selling outrage over and over and over.

 

[clintar]

Did they change the definition of physical?

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's so funny to see people just act like they don't know what he's doing. It keeps working because there's a market to selling outrage over and over and over.

That's the beauty of affirmation of mental illnesses. Endless revenue streams.

 

[Azure Crystal Gaming]

It's so funny to see people just act like they don't know what he's doing. It keeps working because there's a market to selling outrage over and over and over.

"harrassment" what a joke. I would tell these people to touch grass and get a life, but I think it is better for all of us if they just stay in their basement.

 

[adamsapple]

Imagine if FIFA listened to this post. Would they ban player celebrations because it hurts the other team's feelings?

If the players start teabagging the other teams players, yeah they're probably gonna ban it.

Or issue red cards at least

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

 

[DeepEnigma]

If the players start teabagging the other teams players, yeah they're probably gonna ban it.

Or issue red cards at least

Some of them would probably enjoy it.

 

[mckmas8808]

Some of them would probably enjoy it.

That's the conversation yall don't want to have.....

 

[Brigandier]

Essentially

This will never get old it's so relevant right now with how soft the world is especially online.

 

[themonk]

Every game has the right to shape their ToS to suit whatever they feel is best for their players. If people lack the emotional control not to break it or lack the creativity to get around it, don't complain when you get the boot. Trolling people or just flat out being awful isn't a virtue.

People have the right to complain about a TOS too…

 

[DeepEnigma]

This will never get old it's so relevant right now with how soft the world is especially online.

Yep…

Swiss writer who called journalist ‘fat lesbian’ sentenced to 60 days in prison

Alain Soral called Catherine Macherel a ‘fat lesbian,’ criticized her work as a ‘queer activist’ and said she was ‘unhinged’

nypost.com

 

[lughnasadh123]

People have the right to complain about a TOS too…

I don't think there's any rule or law somewhere out there that we haven't complained about yet usually follow or choose not to participate with it.

 

[Syphon Filter]

Calling me a green rat is physical harm, please just leave me be and let me play my Series S in peace, I ca t wait to play the new GTA6 onit aswell .

series s is trash. why not get an x at least.

 

[Spukc]

Blizzard removed a bunch of emotes from WoW a few years back to cater to snowflakes.

/spit - you spit on another player
/shake - you shake your butt at another player
/moon - your drop your pants and moon another player

Even /pounce, which says you pounce on another player (many druids used this while in cat form, cause you know, cats pounce on things).

All removed because they were considered too aggressive or sexually compromising to "vulnerable" players.

Yep. Modern gaming and modern audiences.

I miss spitting on store bought mount users

 

[BlackTron]

This is why you shouldn't play online games.

Say you are playing a game like this on PS5 and Sony bans you for it. You would lose all your games.

Screw multiplayer. If you play long enough, inevitably you will lose all your games.

Either that, or compartmentalize all your gaming.

Anyway, what made this especially painful for me was calling it physical harm. I mean if you want to make a policy change it's one thing, but at least have some bare minimum of respect for our intelligence. It's like they just write the very first thing that comes to mind and shove it out there like it doesn't matter.

 

[DAHGAMING]

series s is trash. why not get an x at least.

what do you take me for ?, Im a true Xbox warlord, I have an X aswell along with every other Xbox console .

 

[TheSHEEEP]

I'm saying every establishment has the right to make it's own rules, just like your house. And I think only fools willingly go in without meaning to follow that.

Nobody argues about that.
Your game, your rules, obviously.

What people are saying is those rules are nonsensically coddling and a sign of weak mindsets.
Also, that grummz is a chronically online fool who needs to take more walks in nature.

At least those two points are what I'm taking from this.

 

[Ponderling]

Next they will add crouch timers to ESO.

 

[GymWolf]

my arm broke last week from being tea bagged in CoD, it's a very serious issue.

Tbf, ducks have hollow bones easy to break.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Nobody argues about that.
Your game, your rules, obviously.

What people are saying is those rules are nonsensically coddling and a sign of weak mindsets.
Also, that grummz is a chronically online fool who needs to take more walks in nature.

At least those two points are what I'm taking from this.

That's a warped view when clearly those rules are meant to reign in the toxic players that actively risk pushing out other players from their games. If there was some kind of benefit than clearly companies would just say fuck it to rules altogether.

I don't know if you or anyone else has noticed, but that awful "it's ok because its not irl" behavior IS spilling over into regular interactions between people no thanks to shit behavior being normalized. You're not strengthening inviduals by allowing it, but saying it's ok by letting them continue to perpetuate it.

 

[TheSHEEEP]

That's a warped view when clearly those rules are meant to reign in the toxic players that actively risk pushing out other players from their games.

Nobody who will let a virtual action like that - a slightly trolly but ultimately harmless action that's about as vile as sticking your tongue out - drive them away had any business being online to begin with.
Contrasted with the stuff that's happening on social media, it's like breaking down mentally after someone calls you a wurstel.

Coddle people like that and they will break apart when confronted with the real world.
Teaching people to deal with things they don't like without running away or acting like a lunatic is one of the most important things you can do.
And yes, even video games can lead to such teaching moments.

If there was some kind of benefit than clearly companies would just say fuck it to rules altogether.

"Companies" allowed DEI and other stuff to drive their decisions for almost a decade - it got them no end of failures, skyrocketing production costs and a fleeing player base.
Companies in the games industry have no clue what they are doing half the time.
Their actions are no proof of sane behavior.

I don't know if you or anyone else has noticed, but that awful "it's ok because its not irl" behavior IS spilling over into regular interactions between people no thanks to shit behavior being normalized.

I have yet to see a tennis player teabag an opponent after a victory, but I'll buy you a drink when that happens.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Nobody who will let a virtual action like that - a slightly trolly but ultimately harmless action that's about as vile as sticking your tongue out - drive them away had any business being online to begin with.
Contrasted with the stuff that's happening on social media, it's like breaking down mentally after someone calls you a wurstel.

Coddle people like that and they will break apart when confronted with the real world.
Teaching people to deal with things they don't like without running away or acting like a lunatic is one of the most important things you can do.
And yes, even video games can lead to such teaching moments.

I guess the start of a disconnect is equating teabagging someone to sticking your tongue out when the former is clearly meant to be much more offensive and demeaning. That's the whole point of doing it! lmao. Then to call them names for being offended at intentionally offensive behavior is the cherry on top. Allowing behavior like that to fester is inarguably bad for the company - period. To deny that based on the companies own actions of moderating it is to deny reality.

"Companies" allowed DEI and other stuff to drive their decisions for almost a decade - it got them no end of failures, skyrocketing production costs and a fleeing player base.
Companies in the games industry have no clue what they are doing half the time.
Their actions are no proof of sane behavior.

DEI has nothing to do with this. Stop it.

I have yet to see a tennis player teabag an opponent after a victory, but I'll buy you a drink when that happens.

And I'll let you contemplate long and hard why that is. Outside unregulated events it's shit.

 

[Jigsaah]

This has been a bannable offense for a long time. I stopped playing partially because of this and that pvp in Cyrodil and the sewers has largely taken a back seat to expansions on story quests.

 

[StueyDuck]

Tbf, ducks have hollow bones easy to break.

now you know why granny always said not to teabag the ducks.

I'm glad someone at the ESO moderation team is finally doing something about this,

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

This dude is like 50+ and regularly gets cyber bullied by videogames.

 

[Skifi28]

Blizzard removed a bunch of emotes from WoW a few years back to cater to snowflakes.

/spit - you spit on another player
/shake - you shake your butt at another player
/moon - your drop your pants and moon another player

Even /pounce, which says you pounce on another player (many druids used this while in cat form, cause you know, cats pounce on things).

All removed because they were considered too aggressive or sexually compromising to "vulnerable" players.

Yep. Modern gaming and modern audiences.

Wait, you can't spit on Alliance scum anymore? I'm glad I missed the game turning into World of Friendcraft, but it's still sad to hear. I imagine in PvP they replace all weapons with clown hammers these days, we wouldn't want anyone to think we could hurt each other now, do we?

 

[TheSHEEEP]

I guess the start of a disconnect is equating teabagging someone to sticking your tongue out when the former is clearly meant to be much more offensive and demeaning. That's the whole point of doing it! lmao. Then to call them names for being offended at intentionally offensive behavior is the cherry on top.

Where do you even get the idea that it is meant to be more offensive and demeaning? That's utter nonsense.
Video games are not real life - actions in them cannot be held to the same standards as actions outside of them.

Are you one of those people who think doing something in a game means you'll do it in real life? Because if not, your argumentation is based on complete fabrication, and if, I'm done talking to crazy people.

DEI has nothing to do with this. Stop it.

DEI is one proof of companies not knowing what they are doing, or rather not caring if what they are doing is actually good for them.
The idea of removing any kind of content that could offend a snowflake is also very much in line with the ideology behind DEI - you cannot reasonably separate the two, it's the same school of thought.
The ones who engage in A will engage in B.

Obviously, there is more proof than just DEI, such as producing games nobody asked for, for audiences that do not exist, in inexcusable states, etc. It's really just one piece of the puzzle.
All of it proves that nothing companies do can ultimately be used as evidence of reasonable behavior.

 

[Ozriel]

"Companies" allowed DEI and other stuff to drive their decisions for almost a decade - it got them no end of failures, skyrocketing production costs and a fleeing player base.
Companies in the games industry have no clue what they are doing half the time.
Their actions are no proof of sane behavior.

The ironic thing is that not taking diversity into consideration has also cost many companies dearly.

Choose your poison, I guess?

 

[TheSHEEEP]

The ironic thing is that not taking diversity into consideration has also cost many companies dearly.

When has that ever happened?
Gamers certainly don't care about that stuff at large. Parts of gaming media does, but they are dying like flies due to their irrelevance. Some devs do, but are they actually the talented ones or just the activists?

 

[GHound]

Bans are physical harm and the ESO mods should be arrested for their mass terror campaign.

 

[Kerotan]

Guessing this Mod never played Halo 3 during the peak.

He probably did and can't handle the PTSD.

 

[themonk]

The ironic thing is that not taking diversity into consideration has also cost many companies dearly.

Choose your poison, I guess?

No it hasn't in fact valve is one of the best companies in tech. The best companies hire the best people…..