Sho_Nuff82
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Have people been living under a rock? MS has never been about graphics, they are pushing the next xbox to be an entertainment hub with surface and kinect etc
That's some revisionist history if I've ever seen it.
Have people been living under a rock? MS has never been about graphics, they are pushing the next xbox to be an entertainment hub with surface and kinect etc
Ugh. 10MB gifs. Thanks... I guess.
Nothing is confirmed yet. But if it is more powerful it's up to Sony to be able to actually show the difference to the casual who usually doesn't give a shit or can't tell the difference.
So the consensus is basically exactly as you would expect:
PC>>>>>>>Orbis>Durango>>>Wii U.
Durango GPU is between Radeon HD 7750 and 7770.
Orbis GPU is between Radeon HD 7770 and 7850.
Does this come off to you all as real insider knowledge, or someone just listing off modern GPU knowledge and applying it to the known SRAM use cases.
Not as good as Orbis (on paper) but should be cheaper to produce.
Personally I want a good balance of performance and price.
Deja-Vu, explain?
Are you sure? Do Xbox 360 and PS3 perform significantly better than a PC with a triple core processor, a video card with 250+ GFLOPS and unified shader architecture running games at console equivalent settings (720p, low/medium without high resolution textures)?
Well, it does actually. That's why the PS3 manged to catch up the one year advantage of Microsoft. They would have even before that if it wasn't for Kinect.Yeah it's almost weird that Sony would try again to go for the more powerful console, given how history has proven that the general public doesn't give a rat's ass about power.
I think Durango's GPU will be slightly better then the 7770. Even though the RAW flows are almost identical, I think with good use of the ESRAM, developers should be able to achieve better results than what they could have done with a straight up 7770.
While Orbis is by raw numbers more powerful, is the difference between a hypothetical 7770+ and a 7850 enough to make a substantial difference.
Yeah but the PS3 gets a lot of stick in the press because of worse graphics, lower/stuttering framerates, not everyone cares about numbers no, but if both consoles launch close, with similar prices and one looks and plays better/more fluid than the other then its a no brainer.
Entire console, yes. GPU has 1,4GFLOPs, which is comparable to 7770.
Have people been living under a rock? MS has never been about graphics, they are pushing the next xbox to be an entertainment hub with surface and kinect etc
Ugh. 10MB gifs. Thanks... I guess.
So...
If 360's GPU is 100% (240GFLOPs)
Wii U's GPU is ~200% (400-480GFLOPs)
Durango's GPU is 500% (1.2TFLOPs)
and Orbis's GPU is 768% (1.843TFLOPs) (600% for graphics 1.433TFLOPs)
That means, Durango will be ~2.5X Wii U, and Orbis will be ~3X Wii U
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Have people been living under a rock? MS has never been about graphics, they are pushing the next xbox to be an entertainment hub with surface and kinect etc
If Durango runs Windows 8, how taxing will that be on the system itself?
I thought so. It reads like the GCN expose on The Register. Nothing really exciting in todays update.The latter.
I know it's still significantly more powerful than the 360's GPU, so we'll see some really special stuff from Durango.
It's just disappointing compared to Orbis.
Well, it does actually. That's why the PS3 manged to catch up the one year advantage of Microsoft. They would have even before that if it wasn't for Kinect.
Power only doesn't matter if you have something else that makes up for it. The PS2 had all the games, Wii had the Wii-mote controls. What will Durango have?
What negativity?
Microsoft isn't sweating a few hardcore gaming forums opinions about two unannounced and unreleased consoles. The only thing Microsoft is working on is probably shutting down these leaks. They are definitely not in "panic"mode, and are going to change their business plan on whim.
lol are people really saying MS is done because Sony is going to have more powerful hardware? What year do you think this is 2005?
Rough especulation, but unless it's highly gimped it will most likely take 2 cores and 2-3 GB of RAM.
Are you the creator of the gif? It is very good job.
Are you the creator of the gif? It is very good job.
If the general consumer gets a whiff that PS4 is more powerful and is the same price, they'll buy it.
Well, it does actually. That's why the PS3 manged to catch up the one year advantage of Microsoft. They would have even before that if it wasn't for Kinect.
Power only doesn't matter if you have something else that makes up for it. The PS2 had all the games, Wii had the Wii-mote controls. What will Durango have?
360 over ps3 last time, this time, the other way around
Last time I did a comparison Orbis's GPU should be slight more than a 7850 on paper. But maybe some people are counting out 4 of the CUs wrt 'compute optimisation'.
They're banking on the ps2/wii formula I guess. Seems like they really did lose their edge this gen. Assuming these numbers are true at least.
Checking some of the numbers more closely - the registers, caches, local memories etc. - it all matches up with regular GCN.
The VG Leaks article also describes why aegies was saying tessellated models might be more of an issue on Durango - because of compressed depth data, I guess - but every GPU now compresses depth and color buffers, right? So Durango would not be unusual in that respect.
I get the impression some of the people who had access to this information before it was public read it as if all the low level details and caveats - positive and negative - were somehow distinct to Durango's GPU.
People that were not going to buy it regardless are saying they are not going to buy it? Well, that for saying it again!Yeah, some of these statements are reminding of 2005/2006 all over again.
I would argue that it is disappointing across the board. It is by no means what you would expect from a brand new console. Even Orbis's GPU is nothing special in PC terms, imagine how disappointing Durango's seems right now.
Are you the creator of the gif? It is very good job.
uhm. desktop 64bit Win8 needs <700mb
Xbox will not run desktop Win8.
not quite right, see belowDurango GPU is between Radeon HD 7750 and 7770.
Orbis GPU is between Radeon HD 7770 and 7850.
AMD is more comparable (same architecture)Can someone place this thing in the spectrum of say, the nvidia gtx series, power-wise for those of us who don't see the world in 1's and 0's?
Does this come off to you all as real insider knowledge, or someone just listing off modern GPU knowledge and applying it to the known SRAM use cases.
Media capabilities are overestimated when it comes to game consoles IMO. That stuff is important for mobile phones. And price? Say you have the new CoD on Durango here and the gimped 1080p version on Obrias there. Even for the casuals it's pretty clear which version will be bought.Media capabilities; price.