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Video Shows US Border Agents Make 16-year-old Boy Drink Liquid Meth Until He Dies
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Trojita
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He made the choice and paid for it at such a young age.
CBP should not be enabling something like this under coercion.
Bro, what the fuck is wrong with you?
WaterAstro
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Is there no quick drug testing available?
isaacnukem
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I can't believe people are defending the border patrol.
It's just a prank!
jasminlovesyoux
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I really don't understand why it wasn't confiscated and the kid detained. It's obviously not juice. There's no pretending that is was, so why was everyone involved so stupid as to let this "game" play out??
FinaruDensetsu
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In the officer's defense he was brown.
Why would a 16 year old have meth?
Khaos Kontrol
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AlexFlame116
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There is. Only one of the elements that makes this as completely fucked up as it is.
I hope those two agents have terrible tragedies happen to them for the rest of their lives. No shame.
He's sixteen years old, sixteen years olds do stupid shit when put upon. Even if he wasn't the fucking drink test ain't protocol. Stoping people the benefit of the doubt for no reason.
They could've tested the liquid instead that deliberately gambled this kids life on a gotcha.
Monocle
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
Yeah, it's hardly fair to frame this in terms of choice when you're talking about a 16-year-old in a coercive situation, lol.
DontBeThatGuy
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You should always expect a defense "force". Always.
After they said drink it to prove wrong at that point wouldn't you just come clean?
Edgy. If they knew it was meth, they knew if he drank it in liquid form it would mean certain death.
Young and scared. People do dumb shit all the time when put in tough situations, especially by an authority figure.
FinaruDensetsu
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Lol.
So if he had had a gun and lied to the officers that it was just a toy gun, they should have made him point it at his head and fired.
Huh? I already said he probably didn't think it would kill him, especially if he was a randomly recruited drug mule.
sixteen-bit
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fucked up
Baroquemantic
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Wow, what the fuck.
ShironRedshift
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Yeah, and that option shouldn't have been on the table at all if they at all suspected anything, which they clearly did. That's not a game you play chicken little about. The kid might not know better, but the officers should be better than making something like that a stupid game. Just say they don't believe him and confiscate and test it. No need to make or dare him to actually dare him to drink the stuff, under ANY circumstance. That's completely unacceptable to play with people's lives like that, and no matter what you want to say about him, we should expect better from officers. Or should they be held to the standards of some 16 year old? Because I sure think not.
BlueTsunami
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So Border agent protocol is... find possible illicit substance...
A) Confiscate it and test it
Or
B) Have a minor possibly drink a dangerous substance as proof
I cant believe someone is actually arguing this middle aged gentleman (sarcasm) made his choice. Sixteen years old!
You know, it takes some set of balls for these people who likely believe this person has an illegal substance on him and just straight up tell him to drink it. More than once.
What the fuck did they think was gonna happen? I can't even rationalize this.
Did they assume the kid knew what it was and come clean?
Did they assume small sips weren't that bad?
Did they even fuckin' care?
What the fuck did they think was gonna happen? I can't even rationalize this.
Did they assume the kid knew what it was and come clean?
Did they assume small sips weren't that bad?
Did they even fuckin' care?
Again he wasn't forced too he coulda said yea i lied at that point.
isaacnukem
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised. But it is still depressing.
biggersmaller
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Arrest those pieces of shit. How have they not broken a fucking law here?
Well fuck.
I suppose I get to guess what your viewpoints on immigration policy are so your heinous here can decree whether I'm pro-immigration enough to be anti-murder.
What a piece of shit post. Especially given the speed at which this tragedy is being usurped to troll.
Well fuck.
I suppose I get to guess what your viewpoints on immigration policy are so your heinous here can decree whether I'm pro-immigration enough to be anti-murder.
What a piece of shit post. Especially given the speed at which this tragedy is being usurped to troll.
TAJ
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Even going by this sociopathic reasoning they were still destroying evidence.
Even just handing him the evidence could have blown the case for prosecutors.
Firefoxprime
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Should people take responsibility for their actions? Absolutely. What happened here was WRONG. On BOTH sides.
When I look at situations like this, I ask myself two simple questions:
1. Could this outcome have been prevented?
2. Who/what influenced these people to make the actions they made?
I saw so many posters casting their views primarily at those law enforcement, and I really try to observe the large overview.
When I look at situations like this, I ask myself two simple questions:
1. Could this outcome have been prevented?
2. Who/what influenced these people to make the actions they made?
I saw so many posters casting their views primarily at those law enforcement, and I really try to observe the large overview.
Ravensmash
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This is an example of gross negligence.
If you suspect someone is carrying drugs, or you're at all wary of what said item is - take it and test it.
Basic logical procedure.
FinaruDensetsu
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Maybe he thought it wouldn't kill him? Or maybe he's afraid of what the cartel having him do this will do to him or his family if he's caught?
Any "benefit of the doubt" given to border patrol would probably be for the bolded. They thought enough about it to question him though so clearly an awful idea anyway.
A Link to the Past
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"Cruel joke"
Murdering a child is the cruelest joke I know, that's for certain
Murdering a child is the cruelest joke I know, that's for certain
Of course.
in the US criminals are seen as sub human animals and the WORST case the police are let off with a slap of the wrist.
I don't blame the cops.
I blame US as a nation where we've built up this culture of cops and robbers where if someone is the 'badguy' they get whatever they have coming to them (even its a minor crime or they are eventually found innocent).
Like for shame; and the most disturbing part of this is how some of the biggest proponents see themselves as law abiding good christian folk. Disgusting.
in the US criminals are seen as sub human animals and the WORST case the police are let off with a slap of the wrist.
I don't blame the cops.
I blame US as a nation where we've built up this culture of cops and robbers where if someone is the 'badguy' they get whatever they have coming to them (even its a minor crime or they are eventually found innocent).
Like for shame; and the most disturbing part of this is how some of the biggest proponents see themselves as law abiding good christian folk. Disgusting.
Host Samurai
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Trumps America
Morrigan Stark
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No one can possibly defend this ridiculous abuse of... oh who am I kidding 
Thats true ill say both sides are in the wrong. A 16 year old shouldn't have this product in first place..but border control shoulda stopped it going this far
ElBoxyBrown
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If the the law enforcements knew it was a suspicious liquid they should have confiscated it and had it tested. If someone had a gun and you wanted proof that is wasn't loaded would you tell the person to pull the trigger on themselves? There are procedures the officers should have followed but didn't cuz for some reason they wanted to be entertained.
yeah you're right, nobody is ever pressured by authority figures into doing something they would rather not do
molnizzle
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Arrogant Bastard
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Power, authority, and in general immunity to any wrongdoing.
FinaruDensetsu
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Both sides are wrong sure. One side is dead, the other laughed.
lol.
On both sides, huh.
I love this imaginary place where a 16 year old fucking up = deserving to basically get killed by adults who are supposed to be professionals at this kind of thing
Because ultimately it is on them.
Expecting a 16 year old kid who is under extreme duress to have the same rationale as a full grown ICE agent is insane.
What kind of professional who works for the government should be allowed to say "Lol drink it then, chicken"
Yes, the kid made mistakes, but it is not a time to victim blame.
That's why it's fucking illegal for him to have the product. We already covered that part of the problem. Now we should address the part where the police officers killed him extrajudicially for having it.
ShironRedshift
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And they could have ripped it away from him. They didn't have to let him drink at all, and on top of that they DEFINITELY didn't have to encourage him to keep drinking more, when they clearly knew what was in it. That happened on their watch, and they could have stopped it, but they not only didn't do so, but they encouraged him to keep going despite knowing exactly what was in it and exactly what would happen. They're purely responsible for that. That's not something they had to do, that was something they had no reason to do, but they did so anyway and then doubled down on it. That's on them and they should bare the consequences for them. Again, say whatever you want on the kid, but nothing can change those facts. Unless we're going to hold them to the standards of behavior of a 16 year-old and no higher, because I'd hope the bar would be a bit higher than that, but that's me.
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