Video: Why Can't Blacks Get Over Racism? Because It's Still Happening

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Something I've always found interesting is, as has been pointing out, people saying that Blacks/Browns are looking for racism where it's not actually in existence. Saying they are pulling the "race card."

What Whites don't realize is that saying somebody is using the "race card" is actually using the ultimate trump card in discussions about racism. A Black man's legitimate complaint about a racial issues can be thoroughly dismissed and destroyed by simply saying that man is using the "race card."

It's odd, but the only people that have the ability to really play the "race card" is the dominant individual in the discussion.


This is true and sad. Every now and then I take offense when the race card is pulled out. I think a lot of white people of my generation have a gut reactions to shrug off racism in certain situations because if someone gets accused of racism when it's not necessarily the case, that could be me. Like in this video... the people calling the police on the vandals are probably not racist. But seeing the video, it's hard to deny what happens.
I think young people often see racism as something that belongs to older generations, and to see another person be pigeon-holed as racist can feel unfair, even if the person does something that is a symptom of racism, like in this video.

It's very much the same with the gender card. I can feel offended by aggressive feminism and feel the need to nuance whatever argument is put forth. This is a pretty unsophisticated personal reaction that comes from not wanting to be the bad guy, plain and simple. When this happens in a discussion, it's an ugly thing because obviously women and black people have it harder in today's society compared to the white man. But the ego wants to distance itself from all that because, hey, it's not me, and also it's not that bad anymore, so I'm tired of hearing of it. That's an insensitive reaction, mostly for lack of reflection.

It's something to be aware of. Being offended that someone gets offended is a manifistation of self-righteousness that's probably best to leave behind.
 
I would have loved for the people doing the experiment to show, those who claim that race had nothing to do with it, the video of how many people passed by when the white kids were doing it
 
I would have loved for the people doing the experiment to show, those who claim that race had nothing to do with it, the video of how many people passed by when the white kids were doing it

All they would say is, had they witnessed the White kids doing it (instead of the Black kids) they would have still called the police.

The problem is, you get plausible deniability and there isn't really anything you can do to prove otherwise.

The only proof we have is the starkly different reactions (in the same neighborhood) to the same incident.
 
It's so much nicer to see a video uncovering racism with a calmer, less suggestive tone.

I believe on an interpersonal level, racism is best met with tolerance and love

What do you mean? How is this calmer? The people surrounding the black guy weren't calm at all.

I was PISSED watching the difference with the white guy and the black guy. Then I just laughed and rolled my eyes watching the guys helping the lady out. Something else.
 
Schattenjäger;47223174 said:
In future experiments, the sets of teens should both be wearing the same clothes

You know, you're right. Clearly, based on everything we know about American history and culture, the minor differences between the clothing worn by the different sets of teens makes a much larger difference then the color of their skin, or the fact that some of them were vandalizing a car and the others were sleeping.

You're being goddamned ridiculous.
 
Schattenjäger;47223174 said:
In future experiments, the sets of teens should both be wearing the same clothes

They are. That's your subconscious trying to justify your own biases so you can sleep tonight.
 
Schattenjäger;47223174 said:
In future experiments, the sets of teens should both be wearing the same clothes

Hey assholes, are we going to keep ignoring THE BLACK PEOPLE WHO GOT 911 CALLS BECAUSE THEY WERE SLEEPING IN THEIR OWN GODDAMN CAR?

This is what happens to racism. People ignore it, push it away, accuse victims of playing the race card.

Fuck you people that think this way.
 
Hey assholes, are we going to keep ignoring THE BLACK PEOPLE WHO GOT 911 CALLS BECAUSE THEY WERE SLEEPING IN THEIR OWN GODDAMN CAR?

This is what happens to racism. People ignore it, push it away, accuse victims of playing the race card.

Fuck you people that think this way.

That kind of attitude helps nothing. Anger and hate is where racism comes from in the first place. You should want that person to become enlightened instead of condemning them.
 
That kind of attitude helps nothing. Anger and hate is where racism comes from in the first place. You should want that person to become enlightened instead of condemning them.

"Let's not address the problem, let's bitch about the people who want people to address the problem."
 
That kind of attitude helps nothing. Anger and hate is where racism comes from in the first place. You should want that person to become enlightened instead of condemning them.
The attitude that he is angered over is FAR more toxic, however.

They were alseep in their own car. They had the cops called on them.

Why?
 
You know, you're right. Clearly, based on everything we know about American history and culture, the minor differences between the clothing worn by the different sets of teens makes a much larger difference then the color of their skin, or the fact that some of them were vandalizing a car and the others were sleeping.

You're being goddamned ridiculous.

They are. That's your subconscious trying to justify your own biases so you can sleep tonight.

Hey assholes, are we going to keep ignoring THE BLACK PEOPLE WHO GOT 911 CALLS BECAUSE THEY WERE SLEEPING IN THEIR OWN GODDAMN CAR?

This is what happens to racism. People ignore it, push it away, accuse victims of playing the race card.

Fuck you people that think this way.

This is par for course with Schattenjäger when race is being discussed.
I doubt anything any of you say will change his outlook on race at this point. Don't waste your breath
 
This is par for course with Schattenjäger when race is being discussed. I doubt anything any of you say will change his outlook on race at this point. Don't waste your breath
I can't say that I know who Schattenjäger is or if what you say is true but I will work under the assumption that it is not. Besides, he is not the only person reason responses to his post.
 
Not blatant racism, not to the extent that it was during the civil rights movement. But there is still a whole heck of alot of hidden racism going on.

As seen clearly in this video.

I was reading an article on pedophiles and the internet and I thought what was most interesting thing about the article is how the man in jail spoke about how the other men he met online turned his taboo hobby into a somewhat normal thing. Since they were all getting acceptance for each other from their sick hobby.

So I think the internet plays an important role on the "hidden" racism we see all around us that isn't becoming so silent anymore. You've seen all the racist tweets? I don't really know how to explain this or where I'm going with this... But I think that not here but elsewhere on the internet like youtube, twitter and other social media sites (without white knights) grow this racism that most teens come in contact with and start to portray.

I remember when I was growing up in the 90's- late 2000's I didn't see (or maybe I was just an ignorant kid growing up) this much hate among any minority as I do now. But who knows.
 
Schattenjäger;47223174 said:
In future experiments, the sets of teens should both be wearing the same clothes

Were the jeans and sweats the black teens more threatening then the jeans and sweats the white teens were wearing?
 
I can't say that I know who Schattenjäger is or if what you say is true but I will work under the assumption that it is not. Besides, he is not the only person reason responses to his post.

He thought Romney's birth certificate joke was fine and not based in race at all. He then called Obama classless for maybe saying something he interrupted as a blow job joke.

He also posted a thread asking why us blacks weren't offended by Biden's chains comment when we are so offended by some of the racist nonsense from the republican party

He posted this in Slay's thread:
Schattenjäger;47125130 said:
I know this thread was about the black community but one thing I need to get off my chest is when posters here talk about "white girls".

"Oh, white girls"
"White girls being white girls"
"Stop acting white"

That is just as bad as stereotyping black people
This had shit all to do with the thread.
It seems he likes to make racism comparisons whenever possible.
 
Ok, now, how about they do the opposite.

Go into a black neighbourhood and do the same. What happens?

Honestly I can see one of two things happening. Since no one would reconkize the care, the people will just steer clear of them. Or they will get confronted and told to get the hell from around there.
 
The fact that two people wre sleeping in a damn car and got two 911 calls is astounding.
I wouldn't have called whoever was vandalizing the car though, I would just stay out of it.
I'm not a very good human being :(
 
I had something of an eye-opening experience when I was pulled over while riding as a passenger with a black friend. I've been pulled over on two other occasions (speeding!), and while one of them had been thoroughly unpleasant, this felt very different. I think the thing that struck me the most, aside from wasting an hour of our time for a traffic stop that was little more than an excuse for a fishing expedition (they suspected we had drugs in the vehicle because one of the headlights was out and we were acting "suspicious" because we were fidgeting while talking to them... in 20 degree weather. Idiots.), was how my friend was acting; in particular he would announce his moves before he made them, such as saying that he was taking his wallet out of his pocket or something along those lines.

I guess it sounds silly to say, but it's something where I knew in the abstract that black people have different experiences when getting pulled over than white people do, but until I actually saw how much more ridiculous it was even for something that was more tedious than anything else, I don't really think I understood it.

I just want to get this on record: there are people here who will argue young white males are viewed with the same suspicion level as young black males, across racial lines? Get on record, I want to know what I'm dealing with here.

I think they are.
 
Ok, now, how about they do the opposite.

Go into a black neighbourhood and do the same. What happens?

Depends on what you mean by "black neighborhood". If you mean an urban setting with lots of abject poverty and crime, then you're hardly talking about the same experiment anymore, where all other factors besides race should be equal. Black people make up around 12% of the population, so I gotta think finding a similar suburban setting that is as predominantly black as this neighborhood is predominantly white would be a challenge.
 
I had something of an eye-opening experience when I was pulled over while riding as a passenger with a black friend. I've been pulled over on two other occasions (speeding!), and while one of them had been thoroughly unpleasant, this felt very different. I think the thing that struck me the most, aside from wasting an hour of our time for a traffic stop that was little more than an excuse for a fishing expedition (they suspected we had drugs in the vehicle because one of the headlights was out and we were acting "suspicious" because we were fidgeting while talking to them... in 20 degree weather. Idiots.), was how my friend was acting; in particular he would announce his moves before he made them, such as saying that he was taking his wallet out of his pocket or something along those lines.

I guess it sounds silly to say, but it's something where I knew in the abstract that black people have different experiences when getting pulled over than white people do, but until I actually saw how much more ridiculous it was even for something that was more tedious than anything else, I don't really think I understood it.

He announced those things because he was fearful of the police making assumptions and acting accordingly. He may have had a previous bad experience with the police.

You do know a guy was shot several times in NY for having a wallet that the police "mistaked" as a gun, right?

I think they are.

Serious question, after reading what you typed above, how can you honestly believe this to be true?
 
He thought Romney's birth certificate joke was fine and not based in race at all. He then called Obama classless for maybe saying something he interrupted as a blow job joke.

He also posted a thread asking why us blacks weren't offended by Biden's chains comment when we are so offended by some of the racist nonsense from the republican party

He posted this in Slay's thread:

This had shit all to do with the thread.
It seems he likes to make racism comparisons whenever possible.
You seem to have a knack for injecting the racism angle into anything.. All those points you made had all to do with politics and nothing to do with racism ..
and what exactly is wrong with my "white girl" comment? Do tell.

and having them both wear the same clothes eliminates another confounding variable.. When performing experiments, one should try include as much scientific control as possible
 
Would there be 911 calls on the white kids and not as many as the black kids?

A lot (all) of these videos are "go into white neighbourhoods and show how racist white people are".

I think in an equally affluent, predominantly Black neighborhood, you would likely see phone calls to the cops in both instances.

You would likely not get them calling the police because 2 White guys were sleeping in their own car.

Just a guess though.
 
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