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[SolsticeZero]

we have gotten way off topic in the theme of the thread... and my question is even more off topic...

but if that is all you wanted why not get a PC... for a little more than the cost of the wiiu (450-500) you could get a gaming rig that would be able to push 1080p no problem and steam has trophies. you also would have had access to much cheaper games, a much bigger library, and had far more control over your games.

don't like how something is controlled.. change the keys...
don't like an aspect of a game, find a mod ect.

anyways more on topic... I finally am putting the final touches on my persona 4 first look review... just need to have one more person read it to make sure I don't have any huge errors before I try to set it loose on the wild.

As a PC gamer, I concur with your statement. My guess is there are two factors people are looking at with the Wii U:

1) Nintendo owned franchises
2) Off screen play

Now buy Hot Shots Golf, damnit!

 

[kassatsu]

Here's my Urban Trial Freestyle review... http://fyfyi.com/2013/02/19/urban-trial-freestyle-vita-ps3-review/


Im sure kass will have his up any minute. The embargo is over. I assume it generally will get strong reviews - it's a ton of fun at a good price. The PS3 version is superior though - of course.

They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

Vita version has better leaderboards I think and is on the go. But it has gimped levels and scoring system. (no points gone for crashing)

PS3 has better levels, hazards x10, the better scoring system. But the leaderboards aren't as good.

 

[famousmortimer]

The screen tearing on the ps3 is a bit bothersome also - but it's 60fps. The vita is 30 but the IQ is great. They definitely did a good job of working to strengths of each platform.

 

[kassatsu]

Oh, PS Vita games? Hotline Miami? Plenty more. We’re just getting warmed up. And it’s not even tomorrow yet.

That is one from one of the SCEE dev relations people

 

[SolsticeZero]

The screen tearing on the ps3 is a bit bothersome also - but it's 60fps. The vita is 30 but the IQ is great. They definitely did a good job of working to strengths of each platform.

So the Vita version doesn't have tearing? Because I will buy the version without tearing. Nothing is worst than screen tear.

 

[BlackLagoon]

Sei Madou Monogatari trailer is up.
So it is more like Mystery Dungeon type of dungeon crawler, hmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87dUiQd08Zs

Obviously not the most lavish production, but then roguelikes have traditionally been ASCII text. Having put numerous hours into Angband, I'd love to have something similar on my Vita.

EDF is decent, but $40 is way too steep of a price--it's not hard to find the PS3/360 version of this for less than $15, so keep that in mind as you consider paying the "digital only, Vita game" tax.

There's no PS3 version of 2017, only the far less entertaining Insect Armageddon. Also the Vita version adds the Pale Wing, online co-op, and a bunch of new weapons/support items for Storm 1. Flying around with the Pale Wing, or using a Limit Booster to overcharge the mech is so much fun, I would never recommend someone the Xbox version instead.

 

[kassatsu]

So the Vita version doesn't have tearing? Because I will buy the version without tearing. Nothing is worst than screen tear.

You get baby levels then. All of the hazards they throw at you in the PS3 version are gone.

 

[Totobeni]

Here's my Urban Trial Freestyle review... http://fyfyi.com/2013/02/19/urban-trial-freestyle-vita-ps3-review/


Im sure kass will have his up any minute. The embargo is over. I assume it generally will get strong reviews - it's a ton of fun at a good price. The PS3 version is superior though - of course.

I wanted to avoid mentioning Trials HD and/or Trials Evolution at all in this review of Urban Trial Freestyle, because I felt like it’s a bit unfair that UTF is seen as a ‘copycat’ game.

the next paragraph.

Urban Trial Freestyle is a better and more varied game than Trials HD

:|

Otherwise, UTF is exactly what you would expect from a Trials style game. The physics are solid, the sense of speed can be intense, the track design goes from tame to HOLY CRAP HOW AM I NOT DYING?

so, it is indeed another clone with nothing new to the genre.

The tracks, especially on the ps3, are very interactive in that things happening in the background will become part of the track right before your eyes.

The Vita tracks are a bit more static than the PS3 version, like you are seeing the aftermath of the PS3 tracks

In the end it comes down to which version makes more sense for you. If you want the best version – that’s easy, go with the PS3.

Vita is the gimped version confirmed.

*smh*


Anyway,from reading the review the game sound like it's nothing new(360 people might also just avoid it completely) and is better to get at $5 or lower especially for the gimped Vita version.

 

[kassatsu]

so, it is indeed another clone with nothing new to the genre.

It isn't kick you in the balls difficult either, which is what I wanted

 

[michaelius]

we have gotten way off topic in the theme of the thread... and my question is even more off topic...

but if that is all you wanted why not get a PC... for a little more than the cost of the wiiu (450-500) you could get a gaming rig that would be able to push 1080p no problem and steam has trophies. you also would have had access to much cheaper games, a much bigger library, and had far more control over your games.

My 2500K@4,5Ghz with 470GTX is feelin quite nicely

 

[famousmortimer]

Of course the vita version is the gimped version. The Vita isn't a PS3.

 

[wouwie]

Happy to see the review scores for Urban Trials. They all seem rather positive so far so i'm all over this one tomorrow (ps3 version though).

Anyone up for a small OT maybe? I'm no good with photoshop so i can't do it.

 

[Totobeni]

It isn't kick you in the balls difficult either, which is what I wanted

Game of the weak.

 

[famousmortimer]

Also totobeni, you could have atleast included my reasoning for comparing them. You make it seem like i said i wasn't going to and then inexplicably do. :/

 

[Diablo Rosso]

Why are the PS3 and Vita versions completely different? Doesn't make sense. I hope Trials comes over and it should since the dev is now waned by Ubisoft.

 

[btkadams]

Oh, PS Vita games? Hotline Miami? Plenty more. We’re just getting warmed up. And it’s not even tomorrow yet.

That is one from one of the SCEE dev relations people

where was this? that seems threadworthy...a lot of people aren't expecting any vita stuff tomorrow.

 

[famousmortimer]

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/02...ta/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


Sixthaxis's review.

 

[SolsticeZero]

Also totobeni, you could have atleast included my reasoning for comparing them. You make it seem like i said i wasn't going to and then inexplicably do. :/

That's because Toto is our resident Vita troll. Don't expect him to make sense.

 

[Moobabe]

where was this? that seems threadworthy...a lot of people aren't expecting any vita stuff tomorrow.

People don't respond too well to announcement of announcement threads - especially for the Vita. Make that thread an expect the usual trolling.

 

[CaptainTiptop]

As a PC gamer, I concur with your statement. My guess is there are two factors people are looking at with the Wii U:

1) Nintendo owned franchises
2) Off screen play

Now buy Hot Shots Golf, damnit!

Man, if someone could get that Wii U GamePad's off-screen play working with all my PC games I'd buy a Wii U just for that.

I assume it's not possible or it'd be very laggy, though. I guess there's always the Shield for that.

Oh, PS Vita games? Hotline Miami? Plenty more. We’re just getting warmed up. And it’s not even tomorrow yet.

This is pretty exciting, but maybe he just means PS games in general rather than PS Vita?

 

[VanWinkle]

Also totobeni, you could have atleast included my reasoning for comparing them. You make it seem like i said i wasn't going to and then inexplicably do. :/

You shouldn't have expected any less from him, famous.

 

[famousmortimer]

That's because Toto is our resident Vita troll. Don't expect him to make sense.

Just looked at his post history. Yikes.

 

[Twinduct]

Toto, use the toto scale when reviewing reviews please!

 

[famousmortimer]

This is pretty exciting, but maybe he just means PS games in general rather than PS Vita?

I've heard from inside sony that they are targeting a bunch of 'big' indie games. I think it's reasonable to expect Fez, Dust an elysian tale, limbo and others on the machine this year. If they are making that public tomorrow that's awesome.

 

[Sid]

I've heard from inside sony that they are targeting a bunch of 'big' indie games. I think it's reasonable to expect Fez, Dust an elysian tale, limbo and others on the machine this year. If they are making that public tomorrow that's awesome.

Expected, no big games then right?

 

[tamaster92]

I've heard from inside sony that they are targeting a bunch of 'big' indie games. I think it's reasonable to expect Fez, Dust an elysian tale, limbo and others on the machine this year. If they are making that public tomorrow that's awesome.

If the vita basically becomes a place for PSN/xbla games plus some vita specific big titles then that's a success for me. I'd love it till the end of time

 

[CaptainTiptop]

I've heard from inside sony that they are targeting a bunch of 'big' indie games. I think it's reasonable to expect Fez, Dust an elysian tale, limbo and others on the machine this year. If they are making that public tomorrow that's awesome.

Sweet. I want FTL. It could work pretty well with a touchscreen.

 

[famousmortimer]

Sweet. I want FTL. It could work pretty well with a touchscreen.

The guy i was talking to is a producer, he asked me for a list of games that I thought would work well on the system saying he would pass it on. FTL was at the top.


I don't know if that means anything, but atleast one person in there knows it's wanted

 

[famousmortimer]

Expected, no big games then right?

There are still big games coming. In fact they have something as big if not bigger than Assassin's Creed coming this fall from a western third party. But I can't be the one to make that reveal. Hopefully it's mentioned tomorrow.

 

[tamaster92]

There are still big games coming. In fact they have something as big if not bigger than Assassin's Creed coming this fall. But I can't be the one to make that reveal. Hopefully it's mentioned tomorrow.

:0:0:0:0

 

[Andrefpvs]

Just got this:

I AM SO, SO EXCITED! YES!

 

[Moobabe]

Sweet. I want FTL. It could work pretty well with a touchscreen.

If the Vita became an indie machine I would pick it up in a heartbeat: FTL, Fez, Braid, Lone Survivor, Hotline Miami, Frozen Synapse, Binding of Isaac, Legend of Grimrock, Limbo, Superbrothers, Defcon, Uplink...

Fuck.

 

[zulux21]

I've heard from inside sony that they are targeting a bunch of 'big' indie games. I think it's reasonable to expect Fez, Dust an elysian tale, limbo and others on the machine this year. If they are making that public tomorrow that's awesome.

the creator of dust actually just started chatting with the monogame people
what monogame does

Our goal is to make it easy for XNA developers to create cross-platform games with extremely high code reuse. We currently support iOS, Android, Windows (both OpenGL and DirectX), Mac OS X, Linux, Windows 8 Store, Windows Phone 8, PlayStation Mobile, and the OUYA console.

which Dust would be awesome on the vita, his hints point towards him being focused on a PC version for now... and while the 360 version didn't do terrible, it sounds like he earned around a break even point, so he likely isn't going to jump right to the ps3/psv if he ever does... he will likely have to do it one step at a time with it on PC first trying to get a fanbase built up, and then think about a ps3/vita version. I could be wrong though as Dean is pretty quiet about his plans.

 

[Totobeni]

I've heard from inside sony that they are targeting a bunch of 'big' indie games. I think it's reasonable to expect Fez, Dust an elysian tale, limbo and others on the machine this year. If they are making that public tomorrow that's awesome.

Well if this is Sony "new strategy" for Vita then it'll need something really popular like DayZ or Minecraft.

 

[famousmortimer]

If the Vita became an indie machine I would pick it up in a heartbeat: FTL, Fez, Braid, Lone Survivor, Hotline Miami, Frozen Synapse, Binding of Isaac, Legend of Grimrock, Limbo, Superbrothers, Defcon, Uplink...

Fuck.

Frozen Synapse and Binding of Issac are already confirmed, aren't they? If not - oops

 

[Moobabe]

Frozen Synapse and Binding of Issac are already confirmed, aren't they? If not - oops

Yeah they are - I threw the others in to try and sneak something else out of you

 

[Sid]

There are still big games coming. In fact they have something as big if not bigger than Assassin's Creed coming this fall from a western third party. But I can't be the one to make that reveal. Hopefully it's mentioned tomorrow.

Cool,Vita needs big system selling games.

 

[FrankCaron]

the creator of dust actually just started chatting with the monogame people
what monogame does


which Dust would be awesome on the vita, his hints point towards him being focused on a PC version for now... and while the 360 version didn't do terrible, it sounds like he earned around a break even point, so he likely isn't going to jump right to the ps3/psv if he ever does... he will likely have to do it one step at a time with it on PC first trying to get a fanbase built up, and then think about a ps3/vita version. I could be wrong though as Dean is pretty quiet about his plans.

Frozen Synapse and Binding of Issac are already confirmed, aren't they? If not - oops

Also, Divekick. There's definitely a compelling story there to tell for the press conference.

 

[zulux21]

Well if this is Sony "new strategy" for Vita then it'll need something really popular like DayZ or Minecraft.

Minecraft is still under exclusive contract with microsoft, but notch has already hinted that once that is up he will be bringing it to other platforms.

 

[SolsticeZero]

Sweet. I want FTL. It could work pretty well with a touchscreen.

I'd punch a baby if it meant I could have FTL on my Vita.

 

[The Grim Heaper]

Just got this:

I AM SO, SO EXCITED! YES!

Nice. Good to see EU folk finally be able to play it.

 

[Moobabe]

Also, Divekick. There's definitely a compelling story there to tell for the press conference.

Removal of all barriers for independent developers to get on the Vita would be an amazing announcement. The indie scene is so vibrant, and so diverse that that would be worth more, to me at least, than CoD, AC, FIFA etc

 

[CaptainTiptop]

The guy i was talking to is a producer, he asked me for a list of games that I thought would work well on the system saying he would pass it on. FTL was at the top.


I don't know if that means anything, but atleast one person in there knows it's wanted

Eugh I love FTL. If I had it on Vita I'm afraid I'd probably miss a lot bus/train stops, haha. Hoping to see it.

There are still big games coming. In fact they have something as big if not bigger than Assassin's Creed coming this fall from a western third party. But I can't be the one to make that reveal. Hopefully it's mentioned tomorrow.

Oh now you're just getting me all giddy.

If the Vita became an indie machine I would pick it up in a heartbeat: FTL, Fez, Braid, Lone Survivor, Hotline Miami, Frozen Synapse, Binding of Isaac, Legend of Grimrock, Limbo, Superbrothers, Defcon, Uplink...

Fuck.

Four of those already coming, so it's looking good! Legend of Grimrock would be fantastic, too.

Sony also need to get working on making Terraria PSN cross-buy/play.

 

[Totobeni]

Cool,Vita needs big system selling games.

SCEJ thinks multiplat MH clones is what Vita need.

Minecraft is still under exclusive contract with microsoft, but notch has already hinted that once that is up he will be bringing it to other platforms.

Pocket Edition.

 

[SolsticeZero]

Eugh I love FTL. If I had it on Vita I'm afraid I'd probably miss a lot bus/train stops, haha. Hoping to see it.


Oh now you're just getting me all giddy.



Four of those already coming, so it's looking good! Legend of Grimrock would be fantastic, too.

Sony also need to get working on making Terraria PSN cross-buy/play.

I would punch a baby for Grimrock on my Vita.

 

[famousmortimer]

Minecraft is still under exclusive contract with microsoft, but notch has already hinted that once that is up he will be bringing it to other platforms.

They are definitely going after minecraft. That isn't news, obviously - I think we can assume everything and everyone is. I have no idea if they got a deal done or when MS's deal runs out... but I do know they are actively looking at it.

 

[btkadams]

There are still big games coming. In fact they have something as big if not bigger than Assassin's Creed coming this fall from a western third party. But I can't be the one to make that reveal. Hopefully it's mentioned tomorrow.

from ubisoft in particular?

 

[Sid]

SCEJ thinks multiplat MH clones is what Vita need.

That's all they can manage,pathetic.

 

[Moobabe]

Four of those already coming, so it's looking good! Legend of Grimrock would be fantastic, too.

Sony also need to get working on making Terraria PSN cross-buy/play.

Legend of Grimrock could be the Vita's answer to Etryian Odyssey.

And I'm just going through my list of Indie games on Steam imagining them on the Vita. A man can dream.

 

[FrankCaron]

Removal of all barriers for independent developers to get on the Vita would be an amazing announcement. The indie scene is so vibrant, and so diverse that that would be worth more, to me at least, than CoD, AC, FIFA etc

It actually makes a lot of sense, when you think about it. Vita development would be expensive for big teams trying to do AAA stuff but conceivably pretty cheap for smaller devs who are only focusing on the one device.

It could very well wind up that the Vita ends up being the ultimate analog stick-clad mobile indie machine as the PSP was the ultimate JRPG machine. Here's hoping Sony has the foresight to both do the dev relations work to make that possible and spin it to the press / public clearly.