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[il Diavolo]

In the end? It's been disappointing since the season 4 finale.

 

[rgoulart]

Well, you're only gonna get as disappointed as your expectations allow. I loved the ending of LOST but others hated it, probably because they expected something else.

To be honest I have no idea what to expect in these last six episodes and I'm fine with whatever they come up with, I'm sure some people will love it while others will hate it. GoT has amazing production values anyway. Also the first season will always be the best for me.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Of course it will. They won't have the balls to let the White Walkers win

 

[WaffleTaco]

I think we're being far to critical of this show. I'm guilty of it. When looked at outside of that bubble, even if the finale ends up being Season 5'esque, Game of Thrones will still be regarded as one of the greatest television shows of all time.

Seasons 1-4 had great drama and plot twists while Seasons 5-8 have had great spectacle based on the set-up earlier in the show. There has been a dip in quality writing and plot wise, but a large step-up in terms of effects and action.

Season 1 to me was great. Had some bad bits but overall it was really great and left me psyched for the next season. 2-now have had highs and lows but have never come close to the first season for me and have been disappointing. Maybe I just really love Sean Bean.

Season 1 is great, it's easily my favourite. Season 2 can be considered disappointing because it wasn't as fun to watch (introduction to Stannis was poor, not as many twists, Dany's plot was eh).

 

[Neece]

I think its mostly in their heads. Dialogue even through this season is persistent with early seasons and even better in many ways.

Uh, no it's not. Seriously not even close.

Go back and watch the earlier seasons and pay attention to the dialogue and compare it with seasons 5-7. Its a huge step down.

The only truly memorable GRRM-esque dialogue I remember from season 7 was Jaimie and Olenna, and even then it was the acting, which has continued to remain strong, that truly sold the scene.

 

[TuXx]

I enjoyed season 7, with all of its flaws and inane storytelling quirks, it was super entertaining.

Having said that; shortening the last two seasons was a massive fucking mistake.

Spoiler

Yes, Arya needed more screen time, besides taking out house Frey, she didn't do much else this season

High Garden and Casterly Rock could've easily been an entire episode that was brutal

They could've also stretched the journey beyond the wall for two episodes.

Plus, Sam saying fuck this Maester shit after just getting there felt rushed as fuck.

 

[The Artisan]

Season 6 was almost just as bad as season 5.

why was season 6 so bad?

Season 6 was better than 5, but overall still much worse than the first four seasons. Three good episodes don't make up for 9 mediocre ones.

other than the sandsnake storyline I don't think season 6 was bad. it started becoming cliche but how long are you going to have the good guys suffer? there's no payoff to their suffering if that's all that's ever happening

 

[Surfinn]

"Pretty damn mediocre drain seven finale"

That's probably my favorite episode in the series.

So bring on more mediocre

 

[InstigateAndInquire]

The single most frustrating thing about Game of Thrones is that they are a sitting on a story, and like GRRM, don't know how to tie it all together.

They have GREAT material to work with but they don't know how to work with it. Just look at Season 7, all those characters in the background. The Stark reunion, fell flat, weak dialogue.

 

[TheOctodad]

Don't worry, Linda Antonsson will write all the haters a better ending and make a fan film of it.

 

[secondspace]

A subversive ending would be good, but I think we're well past the point where anyone expects it.

 

[Surfinn]

The single most frustrating thing about Game of Thrones is that they are a sitting on a story, and like GRRM, don't know how to tie it all together.

They have GREAT material to work with but they don't know how to work with it. Just look at Season 7, all those characters in the background. The Stark reunion, fell flat, weak dialogue.

The dialogue in EP7 was great.

 

[SporeCrawler]

People aren't going to be upset with how Game of Thrones ends they are going to be upset knowing how it will end. In seasons 1-4 and even bits of 5&6 there was always an element of surprise and twists while the writers paved way to the end game. Now that we are here & major plot pieces are set in stone there's nothing else to do but end it and a lot of the fans that watch this show to be surprised and stunned are absolutely going to be let down.

The only thing those types of fan have working in their favor was GRRM's original outline/interview that's been floating around discussing how he DOESN'T want a fairy tale ending like LOTR. I guess that leaves some hope that we might get some last second twists towards the end but at this point I wouldn't bet on it.

Only real shock value scenes I think we could see would be:

Spoiler

1. Bran is the NK, Jon has to kill him (Yawn)
2. Jon sacrifices himself to become the NK to save the world
3. Tyrion becoming a villain
4. Lady Stoneheart

...And No.4 I threw in their just for the hell of it. That shits not happening.

The rest is shit everyone wants to see that we already know about.

Spoiler

Cleganebowl, Jamie V Cersei, Jon + Danys child, the Great War, etc.

Varys plotting against Danerys with Cersei maybe?

 

[y2dvd]

Since when has being critical of something so frown upon here anyways? I think its worst to be a blind fan that sees no faults. We are just stressing how something could have been better.

 

[talkingood]

I really enjoyed Season 7. I've been rewatching the earlier seasons recently and was surprised to find that there were always instances of questionable acting and bad writing, and the CGI was pretty bad early on.

I'm okay that the show is more spectacle now, I think in order to really culminate it was inevitable. We've had years of slow burn, it was time to throw some accelerant into the fire.

 

[nubbe]

Season 7 wasn't perfect, but it got what was needed done
Season 8 won't be perfect but it will be good enough like season 7

 

[mcfrank]

Funny to me that people complain that the show has gone down hill since they passed the books, but Hardhome, Battle of the Bastards, and Winds of Winter which are 3 of the best episodes of television ever are not from the books. Also the 4th and 5th book are pretty bad and meandering.

 

[TheOctodad]

Since when has being critical of something so frown upon here anyways? I think its worst to be a blind fan that sees no faults. We are just stressing how something could have been better.

I think it's because culturally it seems like people don't just enjoy anything or have fun with it. Shows like GoT are analyzed so people can feel superior and people who claim they enjoy it are met with disdain (see some of the responses in this thread).

There are other options between the false dichotomy of "blind fan that sees no faults" and critically picking apart every piece of it. Even in this thread theres a torrent of ideas for how they should solve it that conflict and compete. The idea that these fixes are simple or that the creators are "hacks" just feels like people who don't know what they're talking about but want to look better than the average person who likes it.

I'm not saying that there isn't room for critique - there is. But man it's like a no fun zone in most of the Game of Thrones threads unless you are joining in the dog pile of making fun of everything.

TL;DR It is easier to critique than create and the thousands of people who spend their time just consuming to critique become more tiresome than a creation that is imperfect.

 

[poppabk]

I mean there is already a schism between people who want a fast pace and those who like the pace of the previous seasons.

 

[Thud]

I think I stopped watching after season 4.

Adapting works always comes with a price unfortunately.

 

[TRUE ORDER]

Dissaponting?
It could happen given how much story still needs to happen and there's only 6 episodes left.

Hopefully that won't be the case.

 

[VDenter]

why was season 6 so bad?

Nothing about it made any sense. It would be a much shorter to just list things that were not terrible about it. Which were probably just the Jon,s plot and maybe Bran's but even that was underwhelming.

 

[Phased]

People hold the books to way too high of a standard. The first couple were great but they've been going down in quality.

They're still good but the show has taken all these random plot threads and turned it into something somewhat cohesive while at the same time diverging from a lot of the really out there stuff.

Sometimes it feels like a lot of the delays suffered are because he has no clue how to begin wrapping everything up it's all gotten so convoluted.

This season was pretty great to me.

 

[Surfinn]

People hold the books to way too high of a standard. The first couple were great but they've been going down in quality.

They're still good but the show has taken all these random plot threads and turned it into something somewhat cohesive while at the same time diverging from a lot of the really out there stuff.

Sometimes it feels like a lot of the delays suffered are because he has no clue how to begin wrapping everything up it's all gotten so convoluted.

This season was pretty great to me.

Yup this is where I'm at. Only it's my favorite season. So many awesome character moments.

And the incredible series of scenes when it starts snowing.. The imagery, the music, the foreshadowing, while Jaime is traveling..

One of the best subtitle GoT moments ever. Damn I wanna go watch it again now

 

[CloudWolf]

why was season 6 so bad?
other than the sandsnake storyline I don't think season 6 was bad. it started becoming cliche but how long are you going to have the good guys suffer? there's no payoff to their suffering if that's all that's ever happening

The weird thing is that if they had followed the books, the payoff to the suffering of the heroes would've started way earlier than it did in the show, with stuff like

Spoiler

Lady Stoneheart, the Great Northern Plot, Doran Martell's plot, Aegon's return and Jaime's, Cersei's, Theon's and Stannis' book plotlines.

But for some reason they decided to cut all that stuff out and give us standard movie hero trash.

 

[The Hermit]

I'm hoping for a twist ending.
The snow melts and holy shit, the Statue of Liberty.

Jesus that would so hilarious

 

[KojiKnight]

Part of what made GoT so great at the beginning was the fact that there was no such thing as plot armor. Everyone was at risk always. No one felt safe.

These last two seasons however feel more like a traditional TV show. The good guys (Starks and Danny) are scoring win after win after win without any real repurcussions. The drama falls flat because there isn't any real tension. They tried to fake some this season (sansa-arya, danny-jon, cersei-jaimie) but it was all empty 'threats'.

I'm really hoping that this final season will be brutal, but I don't think it will. Even if it is, it's still going to be a happy-ish ending. The backstabbing is done (or laid bare as with Cersei) the intrigue is done, all that's left is the action sequences in the finale which will be good no doubt but that's about it.

(edit) As for payoffs, who said there needs to be? It doesn't necessarily have to be suffering, but it doesn't necessarily need a feel good ending either.

 

[Hindl]

The only thing those types of fan have working in their favor was GRRM's original outline/interview that's been floating around discussing how he DOESN'T want a fairy tale ending like LOTR. I guess that leaves some hope that we might get some last second twists towards the end but at this point I wouldn't bet on it.

What? He's specifically said the ending WILL be like LOTR in that it'll be bittersweet. And this is going off the books, in which LOTR did have a bittersweet ending

Funny to me that people complain that the show has gone down hill since they passed the books, but Hardhome, Battle of the Bastards, and Winds of Winter which are 3 of the best episodes of television ever are not from the books. Also the 4th and 5th book are pretty bad and meandering.

> Mocks people complaining about season 7
> Cites 3 episodes not from season 7

And one episode doesn't make up for the rest of the season anyway

 

[bratpack]

"it's too predictable"

I didn't know one of the dragons would go down
I didn't know little finger was gonna get it in the finale
or olennas death either

predictable my ass if your reading/forumng about a show with people your bound to come across one of the possible outcomes for the season ahead imo

 

[bratpack]

These last two seasons however feel more like a traditional TV show. The good guys (Starks and Danny) are scoring win after win after win without any real repurcussions.

the Dragon going down to me was a major character death in that battle was it for anybody else?

 

[mcfrank]

What? He's specifically said the ending WILL be like LOTR in that it'll be bittersweet. And this is going off the books, in which LOTR did have a bittersweet ending

> Mocks people complaining about season 7
> Cites 3 episodes not from season 7

And one episode doesn't make up for the rest of the season anyway

Season 6 was past the books. Figured people could pick up that on their own without me explaining. Guess I was wrong.

 

[The Artisan]

Nothing about it made any sense. It would be a much shorter to just list things that were not terrible about it. Which were probably just the Jon,s plot and maybe Bran's but even that was underwhelming.

what didn't make sense? is this a book reader thing? going from seasons 1-5 and then 6 I didn't find any real jump in the narrative style

The weird thing is that if they had followed the books, the payoff to the suffering of the heroes would've started way earlier than it did in the show, with stuff like

Spoiler

Lady Stoneheart, the Great Northern Plot, Doran Martell's plot, Aegon's return and Jaime's, Cersei's, Theon's and Stannis' book plotlines.

But for some reason they decided to cut all that stuff out and give us standard movie hero trash.

I wouldn't say it was trash. come on, this was satisfying as fuck:

I will agree that perhaps it would've played out better had they followed the books but that ship has sailed, so as long as they wrap the story up within the spirit of how the story started then it'll be satisfying. you can't make everyone happy.

 

[V1LÆM]

i don't think it's possible to have an ending that'll satisfy everyone but i think it'll be fine. i'll just be glad we finally have an ending to the story. GRRM doesn't seem to care anymore and HBO has come in and helped put it to bed.

i've loved all 7 seasons. i'm sure they'll do a good job of S8.

 

[120v]

it was a fun ride. i'm not too fussed over how it wraps up

fantasy has always been fairly straightforward. i don't think it's one of those shows people will be picking apart years later coming up with their own theories and interpretations (yeah i know GoT theories are a cottage industry now but it's basically regarding how everything will play out)

 

[Geist-]

The weird thing is that if they had followed the books, the payoff to the suffering of the heroes would've started way earlier than it did in the show, with stuff like

Spoiler

Lady Stoneheart, the Great Northern Plot, Doran Martell's plot, Aegon's return and Jaime's, Cersei's, Theon's and Stannis' book plotlines.

But for some reason they decided to cut all that stuff out and give us standard movie hero trash.

Honestly, I'm not quite sure I'm not overly critical of D&D specifically because I hate them for cutting out all the spoilered stuff. So much story potential lost.

 

[radios shipping overview]

The only GoT ending that would not disappoint would be if Jaimie fulfilled the Azor Hai prophecy and killed the Night King/Bran.

Yeah, im part of the problem.

 

[TaterTots]

Probably. There's too much plot going on and they're not gonna be able to close it all up in a satisfying way in 6 episodes.

Exactly my thoughts. There is a lot of ground to cover and way too many loose ends to tie in only 6 episodes. It's gonna move fast and sloppy.

 

[Hindl]

"it's too predictable"

I didn't know one of the dragons would go down
I didn't know little finger was gonna get it in the finale
or olennas death either

predictable my ass if your reading/forumng about a show with people your bound to come across one of the possible outcomes for the season ahead imo

All 3 of those were pretty predictable tbh

They had to have a way to even the playing field for 3 dragons vs something weak to fire and I was skeptical the dragons would all live
Both LF and olenna had nothing left to offer in terms of plot so both deaths weren't surprising

Season 6 was past the books. Figured people could pick up that on their own without me explaining. Guess I was wrong.

But many of the people in this thread are complaining about season 7. Yes, there are people saying it's been bad since season 4, or even 2, but the majority of this thread, and this article, is talking about season 7s inconsistent and disappointing writing, and how that'll affect the ending

 

[Geist-]

Personally, I'm looking forward to the remake in 20 years.

 

[Shadowhelper]

To me the first 4 seasons are pretty magical. The next two are not quite as enjoyeable to me, although there are some amazing bits to them, and the threat of Ramsey Bolton is a great one.

But season 7 is a travesty compared to what came before. HBO either should've put their foot down and hired some other people to help with the workload, or D&W should've just cut a shit load of plot out.

They put in so much work, only to end it poorly because the showrunners are tired.

 

[pringles]

Something so popular will have millions of loud, disappointed people voicing their opinions. Millions more will be happy and not as loud about it.

Kinda like how it is now. Everyone I talk to IRL loves the show. Go online and you'd think it was the worst trash ever produced. Season 7 gave me big confidence they'll pull off a satisfying conclusion. Sure I wish they could have done 10 seasons x 10 episodes, with the books finished as material to draw upon and an budget and the time to film it all. But that's not realistic and what we're getting is imo the LOTR of the TV world. Quite possible nothing like it ever gets done again.

 

[Host Samurai]

I'd like for the series to end with the world progressing to a state society along with every citizen able to have access to information. Maesters should be a thing of the past as they've halted progress for 8,000 years.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Ok..

 

[Platy]

This season gave what everyone wanted except cleganebowl.

And most people hated.

So it will either give what nobody want and people will hate it or it will be like this season and people will hate it again

 

[Fancyarcher]

Well the current season hasn't exactly been the greatest, but I certainly enjoy it more then most people do if I'm being honest, some people can't be pleased though. The issue is that they've seem to blown their lids & a bit, and now they don't know what to do with the varying fractions of the series. Oh well!

Haha. Keep believing that and set yourself up for disappointment. Books have been on a downward trejectory and now he's rewriting like crazy cause he knows the fans reactions.

Books will be a mess if and whenever they happen.

Martin isn't rewriting because of fans, he's just taking forever to actually release his novel, because he's gotten a bit lazy unfortunately.

 

[JeffZero]

This season gave what everyone wanted except cleganebowl.

And most people hated.

So it will either give what nobody want and people will hate it or it will be like this season and people will hate it again

I don't know about most. I've spoken with plenty of customers at my job who liked the season overall.

 

[RDreamer]

This season gave what everyone wanted except cleganebowl.

And most people hated.

So it will either give what nobody want and people will hate it or it will be like this season and people will hate it again

I wanted good writing. I'm not in Game of Thrones for fan service. Or at least I wasn't. I was in it for the writing through about Season 4.

 

[Surfinn]

This season gave what everyone wanted except cleganebowl.

And most people hated.

So it will either give what nobody want and people will hate it or it will be like this season and people will hate it again

Most, lol. More like a very vocal minority. Have you seen critic and fan reception and reviews?

Some people are living in quite the bubble

 

[Starphanluke]

Mediocre season finale? 🤔

 

[Cindres]

Thing is I don't think the ending will really be an "ending" as such. There are hundreds of years of history to this world and there'll continue to be life in Westerns after the conclusion of the story we're currently following. So the end I think will still suggest things to come, even if we never see those stories.