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dag i would love to play some new necromunda. too bad i have no friends who feel the same. maybe i'll buy it anyway and just rub the rulebooks against my skin.

edit: speaking of rulebooks .. does GW still make nice big paper rulebooks? i haven't purchased one of these games since the late 90s. wouldn't surprise me if it's just like "download this PDF now!" these days ..
They do paper and digital rulebooks :)
 

Bradach

Member
Upgraded my phone to an S8 so now taking pictures of minis is way easier. Bonus shot of my workspace. What you can't see is tons of paints, a box of tools, and unopened boxes and uncut spruesright above.



Can't believe I didn't notice until now that the plug on the second guys chest isn't painted brass. Guess they're not so finished after all.
Fine work! How did you do the rust on the swords?
 

Leunam

Member
It amazes me how you all blend colors so well from one to another. Those Death Guard look amazing.

Thanks! If you're talking about the guts it's just a basecoat of Rakarth Flesh followed by a wash of Druchii Violet and a wash of Carroburg Crimson where it meets the armor. The horns and bone are also basecoated in the same color but instead Agrax Earthshade is used in successive layers to give an impression of fading the close you get to the point. Both methods are very easy to do.

Fine work! How did you do the rust on the swords?

Thank you! The swords are done with a base coat of Leadbelcher, a coat of Typhus Corrosion for texture, and then build up rust with a dry brushing of Ryza Rust, little by little until you get the desired result. Finally, use a bright silver like Stormhost Silver to give the illusion of chipped rust along the edges.
 

Ohnonono

Member
Thanks! If you're talking about the guts it's just a basecoat of Rakarth Flesh followed by a wash of Druchii Violet and a wash of Carroburg Crimson where it meets the armor. The horns and bone are also basecoated in the same color but instead Agrax Earthshade is used in successive layers to give an impression of fading the close you get to the point. Both methods are very easy to do.



Thank you! The swords are done with a base coat of Leadbelcher, a coat of Typhus Corrosion for texture, and then build up rust with a dry brushing of Ryza Rust, little by little until you get the desired result. Finally, use a bright silver like Stormhost Silver to give the illusion of chipped rust along the edges.

Rakarth FLesh is what my highest highlight on mine I posted on the last page after all the washes and stuff. Had to try lots of colors to find it. I was tyring to use lots of sepia wash to give it that Blanch type of coloration. It worked great but then when you need to clean stuff up later you have to find the color that happens to match all the crazy stained color.
 

manfestival

Member
Since I have joined this game in December I have noticed that gw loves releasing limited time products to promote their main game and then what was once loved lives in eternity and gets ignored. Not sure if I like this at all. Kinda wish there were skirmish rules like kill team still around instead of shadow war which even seems to be almost forgotten.
 
OK, everyone! I think I am done. This is my first big undertaking, having only done a handful of space marines from 8th edition starter, so any honest criticism would be greatly appreciated. I've decided at this point I'm done messing with it, and am ready to move onto my Stormraven. But I would like to hear about things I could possibly do better or work on. For instance...I've done no highlights except dabbing each dimple on the top with a slightly, slight brighter red and no dry brushing, as every attempt ended in nightmare. I would eventually like to get better at those two things. I also originally planned on having 4 diamonds on each knee pad, but when I started rubbing each of the decal/stickers off, I realized they were individual and I couldn't slide them off in groups of 4. Then I panicked, because I knew I couldn't re-arrange them in a shape of 4 without looking like crap. So I slipped one diamond on each knee and moved on.

And yeah...my color scheme is all over the place. I love white. I love black. I love deep red. But...my white was clumpy and complete garbage, so I started using red way more than I originally intended to.

 

Nazo

Member
OK, everyone! I think I am done. This is my first big undertaking, having only done a handful of space marines from 8th edition starter, so any honest criticism would be greatly appreciated. I've decided at this point I'm done messing with it, and am ready to move onto my Stormraven. But I would like to hear about things I could possibly do better or work on. For instance...I've done no highlights except dabbing each dimple on the top with a slightly, slight brighter red and no dry brushing, as every attempt ended in nightmare. I would eventually like to get better at those two things. I also originally planned on having 4 diamonds on each knee pad, but when I started rubbing each of the decal/stickers off, I realized they were individual and I couldn't slide them off in groups of 4. Then I panicked, because I knew I couldn't re-arrange them in a shape of 4 without looking like crap. So I slipped one diamond on each knee and moved on.

And yeah...my color scheme is all over the place. I love white. I love black. I love deep red. But...my white was clumpy and complete garbage, so I started using red way more than I originally intended to.

Your Knight looks great! I know you didn't do it here but I really highly recommend doing highlights in the future. It actually makes a much bigger difference than you'ed realize! Dry brushing is also pretty easy for pretty great results so don't be afraid to give it a go! :)

You say the color scheme is all over the place but I think it works really well. The warmness of the red really helps bring out the cooler tones of the white and black and really makes it pop. Honestly, if you had less red you could have ran the risk of making it a little too monochromatic. If its any consolation, I really like the single diamond on the knee. Its very subdued but certainly eye catching.

The only other criticism I could give is, try and slap a few more of those decals on there maybe. At least on the Banner and maybe the shoulders. Other than that though the model looks stellar!
 
OK, everyone! I think I am done. This is my first big undertaking, having only done a handful of space marines from 8th edition starter, so any honest criticism would be greatly appreciated. I've decided at this point I'm done messing with it, and am ready to move onto my Stormraven. But I would like to hear about things I could possibly do better or work on. For instance...I've done no highlights except dabbing each dimple on the top with a slightly, slight brighter red and no dry brushing, as every attempt ended in nightmare. I would eventually like to get better at those two things. I also originally planned on having 4 diamonds on each knee pad, but when I started rubbing each of the decal/stickers off, I realized they were individual and I couldn't slide them off in groups of 4. Then I panicked, because I knew I couldn't re-arrange them in a shape of 4 without looking like crap. So I slipped one diamond on each knee and moved on.

And yeah...my color scheme is all over the place. I love white. I love black. I love deep red. But...my white was clumpy and complete garbage, so I started using red way more than I originally intended to.

That's very niiiice.

Did you come up with a backstory/House for it?
 

Bradach

Member
It looks great, very neat. I would do a recess shade in the gaps between the red panels with Agrax Earthshade if I were you.
 
I can't thank everyone enough for their kind words and giving feedback.

Your Knight looks great! I know you didn't do it here but I really highly recommend doing highlights in the future. It actually makes a much bigger difference than you'ed realize! Dry brushing is also pretty easy for pretty great results so don't be afraid to give it a go! :)

You say the color scheme is all over the place but I think it works really well. The warmness of the red really helps bring out the cooler tones of the white and black and really makes it pop. Honestly, if you had less red you could have ran the risk of making it a little too monochromatic. If its any consolation, I really like the single diamond on the knee. Its very subdued but certainly eye catching.

The only other criticism I could give is, try and slap a few more of those decals on there maybe. At least on the Banner and maybe the shoulders. Other than that though the model looks stellar!
I thought dry brushing would be easy, but I keep winding up with either too much paint on brush, and I accidentally paint over colors heavily, or too little, and I can't notice a difference with what I'm dry brushing. I definitely need to keep practicing. As for decals, you're right. I especially need to get something on that banner between legs.

That's very niiiice.

Did you come up with a backstory/House for it?
I haven't yet, but I'm thinking some BS background having to pertain to a House that knows part of or helps protect the secret history of the Blood Ravens. Sadly, I don't know a lot of lore to be able to make something up quite yet. But Blood Raven-y would be good.

It looks great, very neat. I would do a recess shade in the gaps between the red panels with Agrax Earthshade if I were you.
Like on the top red panel? I put some violet shade in there, but it isn't standing out very well, is it...hrm. Maybe I'll try Agrax to darken it up and give a bit more contrast.
 
you did fantastic, and painted it in a smart way. That is to say, down the road, years from now if you want to touch up the paint job its very easy to build on what you laid out.

fantastic job.
 

Nazo

Member
I thought dry brushing would be easy, but I keep winding up with either too much paint on brush, and I accidentally paint over colors heavily, or too little, and I can't notice a difference with what I'm dry brushing. I definitely need to keep practicing. As for decals, you're right. I especially need to get something on that banner between legs.

The best advice I could give is when you dry brush is to do very light flicks of the brush to gradually build up the color. Try and focus the top half of the bristles to be what makes contact with the edge your working with.

If you find yourself having too much paint on the brush. Try and remove enough paint off the bristles until the paint is hardly noticeable. Then you should be good to go.

Also, if you don't have one already. I'd recommend getting a small dry brush. It'll let you be much more precise and help you control where the paint goes a lot easier.
 

Leunam

Member
VA I think your color selection is good.

For white I've been doing Ulthuan Grey with a pure white highlight. Ulthuan Grey gives you more depth because you can highlight with pure white but if you use just pure white you're out of options for highlighting, can't go a step up basically. Agrax Earthshade is a good recess shade for white and red.

Looking forward to seeing the completed base.
 

Keasar

Member
Any Salamanders chapter focused books recommended? I see that there is a series of them called Tome of Fire but people seem a bit so-so to it.
 

Nazo

Member
Well I think I'm done with painting and modeling for a long time. My Gabriel Angelos model from Forge World got ruined today while I was painting because it slipped out of my hand and fell like half a foot but APPARENTLY that's a high enough drop to break the top half of the model and scrape off a bunch of paint.

That's $80 dollars down the drain.

I feel like this happens to me every time I paint something. Something horrible happens and ruins my models. I've been able to fix "or live with" this happening till now but today was the last straw.

I was so excited to paint Angelos and make him the HQ for my Blood Ravens army.

I'm honestly not sure if I'll come back to painting again...

:(
 
Well I think I'm done with painting and modeling for a long time. My Gabriel Angelos model from Forge World got ruined today while I was painting because it slipped out of my hand and fell like half a foot but APPARENTLY that's a high enough drop to break the top half of the model and scrape off a bunch of paint.

That's $80 dollars down the drain.

I feel like this happens to me every time I paint something. Something horrible happens and ruins my models. I've been able to fix "or live with" this happening till now but today was the last straw.

I was so excited to paint Angelos and make him the HQ for my Blood Ravens army.

I'm honestly not sure if I'll come back to painting again...

:(
Damn...I'm sorry. I would have loved to see this thing completed. How bad of shape is he in?
 

Nazo

Member
Damn...I'm sorry. I would have loved to see this thing completed. How bad of shape is he in?

Real bad. It also didn't help that after it happened I was so angry and defeated I spiked it into a trash can. So there is really no fixing it now. lol

It's such a bummer. He was coming along perfect too.
 
Real bad. It also didn't help that after it happened I was so angry and defeated I spiked it into a trash can. So there is really no fixing it now. lol

It's such a bummer. He was coming along perfect too.
Oh my god...lol. This is what you do. Pulverize it to a billion pieces in a blender, put it back in his box, then send back to Forge World for an exchange.

"Yeah. It arrived in like...a bunch of pieces. Dunno what happened. Oddest thing"
 

HariKari

Member
That sucks. :(

The more I read about them, the more I like them. They are actually one of probably few Marine chapters who truly cares about the people of the Imperium, even ready as to go so far to fight other loyalist chapters about it.

Yep, they're pretty much the good guy space marine chapter, which is why the lore needs more of them. I guess the upside to being in stasis is that nothing awful gets written and it gives them an opportunity to bring Vulkan back however they want. He seems like the next loyalist primarch to show up.

They're also one of the hardest armies to collect IMO. I feel like you need A+ painting and conversion skills to do them justice, which is fitting for a chapter renowned for their artisans.
 

Nazo

Member
The rumour is Dorn for the next loyalist Primarch, no?

(Which is boring.)

He's next for Horus Hersey. Forge World said so a few months ago.

Next loyalist to appear in 40k tho is still up in the air. It'll probably be either Russ or the Lion next.
 
Speaking of Salamanders.
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He's next for Horus Hersey. Forge World said so a few months ago.

Next loyalist to appear in 40k tho is still up in the air. It'll probably be either Russ or the Lion next.

I'm betting on Khan.
 

Ohnonono

Member
My regular audiobook report.

About half way through Know No Fear. It is really good. Some epic stuff going on in that book. After reading so much chaos it is nice to get back to some loyalists.

After this I think I am going to start Fear to Tread. Then Angel Executioner, then Vengeful Spirit. After that I got no idea.
 

War Peaceman

You're a big guy.
Gulliman should be the only Loyalist primarch. His characterization has been great and I hope it continues. Dark Imperium is well worth a read.
 

Tacitus_

Member
He be a bit cranky.

You could say that.

The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp.
Guilliman had no illusions. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp.
While the Emperor had walked abroad, He had cloaked His manipulations in love. He had let His primarchs call Him father; He had let them call themselves His sons. He had rarely spoken those words Himself, Guilliman now realised, and when He had He had done so without sincerity. Buffeted by the full might of the Emperor’s will unclothed in flesh, a cloak had been ripped from Guilliman’s eyes.
The Emperor had allowed them to love Him, and to believe He loved them in return. He had not. His primarchs were weapons, that was all.

He understood. He knew what his father wanted to achieve, and why. Facing things like Qaramar brought it home to him time and again. Knowing what opposed mankind made him see the utility of lies. Could Guilliman honestly say he loved all the men who called himself his sons? He barely knew them, especially now – Cawl’s blasphemous hordes in particular. They, too, were a means to an end. He and his ‘father’ had that in common. The mantle of rulership was weighty, and moulded the man that bore it.

‘My lord,’ said Mathieu into the primarch’s silence. ‘Please tell me, does the Emperor love us?’
‘The Emperor loves us all,’ lied Roboute Guilliman.
 

Keasar

Member
What he needs is a big friendly big "Don't-worry-about-daddy-Emprah-not-loving-us-anymore"-hug from his best brother Vulkan.

Seriously though, I just caught up reading the synopsis on the WH40K wiki and dude needs another Primarch stat to keep him company. He's been through shit and seen more shit. That amount of shit is bound to make anyone depressed at the state of things.

Interesting that he calls the Primaris marines blasphemous as well, wasn't he the one who put the order in for them?
 
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