EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I'll donate if they add in a third person cover system and health regeneration.
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Wasteland 2 Kickstarter project by inXile entertainment [Ended, $3 Million Funded]
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Hot Coldman
Banned
Some men, etc
That from a tactical, isometric viewpoint would be a pretty rad experiment.
bengraven
Member
First person perspective and scripted events or my money stays in my wallet.
I want DiCaprio to voice the main character.
Freddy Prinze Junior por favor.
Attackthebase
Member
After watching the video on Kickstarter, I was convinced to toss in $15. I never played this type of game, so I'm hoping for the best from it.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Fine whatever I'll back it like I give a shit.
I just happened to have this extra money here, that's all. I-I-It's not like I care if you hit your goal or anything.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Do we know if the plan is to use an isometric or top-down camera?
Messofanego
Banned
Oh cool, might then plop down $50 for this.
MightyHedgehog
Member
They have kept reiterating that it will follow Wasteland 1 and go top-down...presumably to simplify the needs for animation and art work while retaining the familiar grid for movement and map design. Personally, I prefer it this way just because isometric generally looks kinda wonky for 2D when you see how the pathfinding through those hexes/cells makes simple movements across decent chunks of the map look awkward and seem like you're wasting time traversing extra spaces (when you're actually not).
Everything that is wrong with gaming today right there. And from a mod, which makes it even more pathetic but explains a lot about why GAF is where it is today.
Pachterballs
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Wiktor
Member
I think he was being sarcastic :]
MMaRsu
Member
Haha another one bites the dust
Pachterballs
Banned
btw I didn't realise it was a video til after I kickstarted.
At about $650k soon.
@ Toma. that pic is terrible.
Pachterballs
Banned
Pachterballs
Banned
BrianFargo said:
Kotaku writeup. GAF love to Hate Jason Schreier wrote it though. But any writeup is good promo
http://kotaku.com/5892901/how-wasteland-2-went-from-hopeless-to-half-a-million-in-24-hours
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
That's hilarious (and awesome of him).
Technosteve
Banned
Any way to get copy of the poster for wasteland? Maybe they put that as a tier.
Thought we'd lost you for a while there, Astro.
I kicked in $100 and for a guy that refuses to buy most games unless they're on sale that's a pretty big commitment but I can't resist helping in some small way to see this guy's dream project come to fruition. Plus I've tried to play the original Wasteland and man, it's ancient, so frankly I'll pretty much be happy if all we get is a semi-remake with a modern UI and graphics/sound. (I'm talking Fallout 1/2 levels here, which I suppose isn't really that modern but in this case is miles ahead of Wasteland in playability.)
WorstUsernameEver
Member
I wouldn't take the "top-down" comment to mean much more than actually "the camera will be high up" meaning that there's a chance it could be isometric (OR CAVALIER OBLIQUE
) instead. They'll probably finalize this and some other basic choices after listening to the fans/backers' input.Astrolad's still got it.
I think he was being sarcastic. :]
Hah.
I think he was being sarcastic. :]
Hah.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
And MY axe!
I.e. Donated
I.e. Donated
MightyHedgehog
Member
I wouldn't take the "top-down" comment to mean much more than actually "the camera will be high up" meaning that there's a chance it could be isometric (OR CAVALIER OBLIQUE
Yeah, it's true that it could change. Cavalier oblique? Fallout 1&2-style? I guess, but I'd rather have the simple grid WL1 used mainly because it's easier to be precise in the spaces traveled in locations where random battles can occur. The two iso Fallout titles didn't have random battles in locations but only in the world map. Also, I'd love to see the large scale map or world map in WL2 follow Fallout 1 & 2 but allow animations and movements to conform to pathways and correctly traverse geographical features depicted on the tiles...even if we're viewing the world from a pseudo-satellite image and little dots represent each party member.
Wiktor
Member
I wouldn't take the "top-down" comment to mean much more than actually "the camera will be high up" meaning that there's a chance it could be isometric (OR CAVALIER OBLIQUE
Isn't this actually a screenshot? Or at least an artwork suggesting how it will look ingame?
Looks like 3d with camera high up, bassically what van buren was
WorstUsernameEver
Member
Isn't this actually a screenshot? Or at least an artwork suggesting how it will look ingame?
Looks like 3d with camera high up, bassically what van buren was
I'm pretty sure they haven't started working on things like assets or a prototype yet and that design is still in a flux because they want to hear the fans' opinions on the high-level elements and what they value. After a successful funding they should do 5/6 months of pre-production work to make sure they have their plan all set and development goes smooth, or so was the word from the Rock, Paper, Shotgun interview.
As for that image.. I honestly don't know? Might be just a mock-up or a piece of artwork.
bonesmccoy
Banned
That's a screen shot from Van Buren.
He means the background of the Fan Fund Wasteland 2 banner.
I know it won't be, but I really wish this game was sprite based.
i don't think it's Van buren. Van buren had completly 3d engine in works. That's look like upgraded Fallout tactics engine.
eddit:
oh my bad actually it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuDKrY7eW0
bonesmccoy
Banned
Of course! I'm an idiot. It does look like hastily assembled art work.
Now the art work that Fargo's been showing us from the people he's recruited, that stuff looks very impressive.
Spectacular Dr Dawg
Member
Pledged 65 for the boxed version. Never played Wasteland so I'm looking forward to trying this out.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Kickstarter is going to have a record year
aggro crag
Member
Just upped my pledge so I could get that collectors package.
Anticitizen One
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This is unfortuantly moving alot slower than I expected. Wasn't Schafer's game already at the $1.5 mil mark by now?
WorstUsernameEver
Member
It was slower than DF's Kickstarter since the beginning though. Not surprising considering the kind of goodwill Tim Schafer generates almost by himself alone. That said, even if it doesn't generate the same kind of money, I don't think there's any reason to be worried about it getting funded.
They're only around 200k from their initial goal in a little over a day. Don't think it's a cause for hand-wringing. It's moving at a nice enough clip. Can't expect everything to be the juggernaut that Double Fine's Kickstarter was. We may end up finding that it was unique in that respect.
Takeda Kenshi
blew Staal
For an extremely niche RPG this is doing fantastic. Can't bloody wait to get my hands on this thing.
HP_Wuvcraft
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https://twitter.com/#!/garywhitta
still nowhere on this wasteland2 thing.
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/as-double-fines-kickstarter-nears-an-end-wasteland-2s-begins/4031/
Dregs!
GB is missing the point. Kickstarter is about communicating ideas. I contribute to projects to help people see their dreams.
I never played Wasteland. Good game, bad game... Does not matter what W2 is. It is someone's idea.
I wouldn't take the "top-down" comment to mean much more than actually "the camera will be high up" meaning that there's a chance it could be isometric (OR CAVALIER OBLIQUE
If they will look at their own idea of goodle moderator ideas it will be isometric.
Also on last GDC with tim cain fallout post-mortem there were some fine things:
-Cost of making fallout 1 was estimated by TIM as 3mln$ but it must be known also that Fallout 1 development wasn't normal. It wasn't even a post nuclear game 6-10 months in production.
-Isometric wasn't truly isometric. it had 30 not 45 degree. (better for hex and level design)
-Game was almost 2 times canned. One ehn they lost license to GURPS and he rewrote it in two weeks with chris tylor, that's when SPECIAL was created and when Interplay got D&D license they wanted to relocate people to "bigger" projects, Tim begged Fargo to not axe it. And he gave Tim green light because he liked it much
- Perks were originaly created in 2 days (awasome pace) because Fargo thought that skill system need something more
- Game was supposed to be named Vault 13. Weeks before release Tim gave Fargo to play game. Fargo said to Tim they should name it Fallout and Tim loved that name.
Oh and game couldn't get win95 certificate for a long time since game worked with windows NT. Hilarious.