Ar¢tos
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Why not?
Nintendo recently invented the mouse.
WC/Jez: Microsoft's ambitious new Xbox: Your entire Xbox console library, the full power of Windows PC gaming, and no multiplayer paywall
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Nintendo recently invented the mouse.
mayham2199
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That's not a green rat. Your joining the PC master race. Using an APP doesn't make you a green rat anymore than using Steam makes you a blue walrus.
Mister Wolf
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You're going PC. Your new color is gold. Congratulations in advance.
awwr999999
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That's the whole point.
You can make your own Windows PC for much less and do all of those same things.
The point is to make Windows PC the best value option.
dgrdsv
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I'm about 99% sure that it won't be easy to use the thing for "PC purposes".
People expecting this h/w to just run your regular Windows don't really understand the model MS is pursuing.
This will likely still be a console with its own OS and own UI.
It just doesn't make any sense for MS to try and make a PC prebuilt - this market has close to negative margins as is, they won't be able to compete with huge OEMs on either price or margins.
So the h/w being closer to PC parts is fine - cuts down on R&D, allows for less platform specific optimizations needed, could potentially run a full Windows to allow running competitor's titles on the machine (for those who will care enough).
But the main s/w I'd still expect to be a console specific OS/SDKs.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Xbox Series sold 2M last year.
Likely around 1M (or less) this year given numerous stores around the world have either dropped them completely or severely reduced their stock in that time.
Who knows if there will even be a store presence for them by 2027, two years is a long time for Xbox with the current burning state it is in, and it's only going to continue getting worse, January is looming.
Shareholders will see it getting worse and continue to tear more shreds, who knows if Magnus will even be allowed to release once they're done, again, two years is a very long time.
bender
What time is it?
Team Andromeda
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I don't follow you, but I don't believe MS is they're trying to make out they're still losing up to $300 per Series X
BlackTron
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It's likely that the ability to customize, swap parts or run any software you wish will be traded off with being a simple box with console UI. Which is fine, until the price comes in. $1200-2k for a box destined to become dated with no way to limp it along with upgrades will only seem appealing to a niche. They know this which is why their success has been de-coupled from hardware with it. Wanna pay for a niche product? Great. Don't? Also great, that's why Halo is multiplat.
Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Pretty much. I could live with it, if it seems somewhat fair price wise and lasts at least 7 years. I spent $1000 already this gen on PS5 and Xbox together, and had PS+ for a while. For a very niche audience, it could be super cool.
HeisenbergFX4
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That's the question, would people spend more up front on a much higher powered system that you likely get a full generation out of vs those of us (like myself) who grab mid gen refreshes like the PS5 Pro because we want more power
I think the casuals will clearly say no but enthusiasts?
I dunno
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
reinking
Gold Member
Depending on where I am with Xbox, I will end up doing both. I am viewing I the next Xbox purchase as a mini/TV PC more than I am a console. It seems like it will offer me more of what PC gaming on a TV does now. I can see this being a big deal for gaming enthusiasts but passing by the traditional console market. I am excited to see what MS offers but sad if it weakens the overall console market.
Humdinger
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Yeah, that's my question, too. MS doesn't have a great track record with regard to Windows or the Windows Store, and this is going to be all about Windows. They're promising a "curated" console-like experience, smooth as a baby's bottom, but it's easy to make promises, and it's easy to get excited about plans on paper. We'll see how smoothly the actual product functions.
BlackTron
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Therein lies the problem...casuals don't want that much expense/power, they want to get their foot in the door. Meanwhile enthusiasts don't want to spend big money on a PC with all its PCness stripped away. You're left with a niche enthusiast audience caught between both.
It's better for them to target a niche with hardware and serve that one segment they can profit on very well than targeting everyone and ending up underwater (just ask men in boxes)
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
You were talking about the hit MS was willing to lose on the console in the old days. They were losing $200-$300 per Xbox Series sold, not $50.