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Welfare: Xbox sold less than 3m US consoles in 2024, worst year ever

Will Xbox manage 1 million sales in 2025?

  • Yes

    Votes: 137 51.5%

  • No

    Votes: 129 48.5%
  • Total voters
    266
RetroGamingUK

RetroGamingUK

Member
Only 2.7 million units sold in 2024



Yearly sales:

2021 - 3.7m
2022 - 4.5m
2023 - 3.8m
2024 - 2.7m

If people are wondering why there’s talk of retailers not receiving units in the Middle East and the Series X being hard to find, here’s your answer.

As for Europe…

20232024
Total
7.4
5,85

PS5
4.6
3,68

XBS
0,55
0.29

NSW
2.25
1.91
 
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RetroGamingUK

RetroGamingUK

Member
PS5 sales (millions)
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Marketshare
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March Climber

March Climber

Member
Xbox Series X will probably be my last Xbox console.

The only way I'd stick around is if they merge the OS platforms (PC and Xbox) into one big open ended super console, which would be the smartest move they could ever make at this point in time. They would just have to bite the bullet on the modding and emulation scene.
 
IDKFA

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Putting all their games day one on PC is what happened

Most have no use for an Xbox console anymore
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Agreed.

However, Microsoft very likely knew releasing games on PC day one with consoles would tank their hardware sales.

That was probably the goal. They've never made any money with hardware, so it might have made more financial sense to release games PC and now other platforms. Why bleed money on hardware when you can make a profit selling software to as many people as possible?
 
HeisenbergFX4

HeisenbergFX4

Member
IDKFA said:
Agreed.

However, Microsoft very likely knew releasing games on PC day one with consoles would tank their hardware sales.

That was probably the goal. They've never made any money with hardware, so it might have made more financial sense to release games PC and now other platforms. Why bleed money on hardware when you can make a profit selling software to as many people as possible?
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Now this has been awhile and I have mentioned this here before (I think) but I got the vibe from Spencer he truly felt buying all these companies and putting their games on Gamepass was a magic bullet to get people to buy their console
 
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damidu

Member
IDKFA said:
Agreed.

However, Microsoft very likely knew releasing games on PC day one with consoles would tank their hardware sales.

That was probably the goal. They've never made any money with hardware, so it might have made more financial sense to release games PC and now other platforms. Why bleed money on hardware when you can make a profit selling software to as many people as possible?
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eehm, because they bet the whole division on a "netflix of gaming" pipe-dream and most of their subs come from their collapsing plastic box,
but im sure all going according to the plan.
 
Danny Dudekisser

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
I mean... what have they done right in the last 5 years? GamePass is a good deal for budget-conscious gamers, and that's about it. But they removed their focus from the actual games for waaaay too long, lost any sort of personality the brand once had, and have made every effort to gut exclusives and turn the system into another generic box that's basically an overpowered Fire TV.

It's a very Seattle big tech mentality - insisting on unwalled gardens, approachable (bad) UI design, and pushing users away from purchases and towards subscriptions at every possible turn. It all focus tests well, but they've turned their entire business into something completely and utterly boring.
 
Alebrije

Alebrije

Member
Well its clear Microsoft is moving its game business to a software focused one, its their roots btw.

Since any screen is an Xbox why waste resources on hardware and loss money on the process. That is the reason they not compete vs Dell, Lenovo,etc on the PC market. Let others do the hardware we focus on the OS.

But since Microsoft has tons of money pretty sure they will deliver somekind of Xbox "console" at least next gen. Specially if their games sell well.
 
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onQ123

Member
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Putting all their games day one on PC is what happened

Most have no use for an Xbox console anymore
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I disagree with this being the reason because the only games released from XBOX this generation that could have moved hardware was already multiplatform franchises.


Which game would have sold Xbox Series this generation if it wasn't also a day one PC release?

The outcome would have been just the game selling less.



Microsoft was taking too big of a hit on Series X & wanted Series S to be the main console while Series X was just there as a flag ship model . They really wasn't trying to sell the Series X & when Series S flat lined from over flooding the market with them so did the production.
 
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bundylove

bundylove

Member
IDKFA said:
Agreed.

However, Microsoft very likely knew releasing games on PC day one with consoles would tank their hardware sales.

That was probably the goal. They've never made any money with hardware, so it might have made more financial sense to release games PC and now other platforms. Why bleed money on hardware when you can make a profit selling software to as many people as possible?
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This is whats called controlled product destruction.
Trust me. They know what they are doing and its by design
 
GigaBowser

GigaBowser

The bear of bad news
they are third party for nintendo sony pc no more consoles handheld will fail im sorry my friends bookmark confirmed
 
IDKFA

IDKFA

I am Become Bilbo Baggins
HeisenbergFX4 said:
Now this has been awhile and I have mentioned this here before (I think) but I got the vibe from Spencer he truly felt buying all these companies and putting their games on Gamepass was a magic bullet to get people to buy their console
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It might have worked in an alternative timeline where they didn't release games on PC day one, plus locked their games to Gamepass/Xbox console.

damidu said:
eehm, because they bet the whole division on a "netflix of gaming" pipe-dream and most of their subs come from their collapsing plastic box,
but im sure all going according to the plan.
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That plan did fail. The whole 'Netflix of gaming' was dumb anyway. Gamepass would never have sub numbers like Netflix for a number of reasons. It was destined to fail if they expected Netflix numbers.

The goal now appears to become the number one publisher, which is a realistic goal. Microsoft don't mind if you buy the game on PC, PS5 or sub to GP. Either way they'll be making more money that way than trying to make the hardware division a success.
 
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damidu

Member
GigaBowser said:
they are third party for nintendo sony pc no more consoles handheld will fail im sorry my friends bookmark confirmed
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yeah where i am at, for nextgen they'll do an overly expensive one last handheld/hybrid/whatever experiment in a select few markets.
which will obviously be their worst selling console ever, making series numbers look like a huge success in retrospect.
and they'll fizzle out of hw just like that. giving them 5 years max
 
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