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Jooxed

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StormCell said:
OP, I bet you didn't even get a warning for that thread. On another board, they probably would have snipe-banned you between the time when you clicked submit and the time the page loaded for you.
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Is a snipe-ban when someone camps on a rooftop 500 yards away from your house and vans you from a laptop?
 
-Arcadia-

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I don’t approve at all of what you’re doing with this thread.

It’s the adult forumer version of throwing a tantrum because you didn’t get what you want. There’s a whole thread dedicated to appeals, where this could have been discussed sensibly.

Moving on to what’s being discussed, this post, which remains undeleted and received a lot of love in even a niche thread, was a much better way to make your point:

matt404au said:
I was a few seconds too slow in replying to G Gargus thread so I’m just gonna post my response here:

Very clumsy wording, OP.

You’re describing a dislike of particular cultures. That’s fine. I don’t like black ghetto culture either, but there are other similar cultures I don’t like that aren’t race-exclusive. Most people don’t understand that there is a difference between race and culture. The point of liberalism is that someone’s race, gender, etc. doesn’t define them culturally, i.e. a black person can subscribe to American cultural values. However, what we’re dealing with is this smoothbrained modern day bastardisation of classical liberalism that says people are intrinsically “equal”, not just under the law, but as some kind of evolutionarily-ignorant tabula rasa idea. It’s fundamentally flawed and a lot of the bad ideas about equal outcomes are downstream from it. So too is the idea that all cultures are equal, which I think is what you are referring to.

Black ghetto culture is not equal. Cardi B is not a productive member of society and does not deserve her fame or fortune. She’s not a role model and the fact that she has risen to such prominence is a sign of a corrupted system. Perhaps that there is too much — or preferential — social mobility. Someone like Ben Carson should be a black role model but he’s not because he has the wrong politics and “acts white”. The left’s soft bigotry of low expectations has disastrous outcomes when it raises lesser cultures to have an equal say in the direction and structuring of society. The goal should be to induct people into the majority culture irrespective of immutables, not dismantle culture and turn it into a free for all.
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See the nuance and thoughtfulness there?

What you described, on the other hand, was straight up racism. Prejudice based on color, birth conditions, and origin. In a forum with a worldwide reach, and plenty of blacks, gays, and Indians, imagine being in charge and having this on your front page.

For what it’s worth, I, from the ant’s eye perspective, would have preferred your post stayed open, so we could discuss this with you and change your mind.

However, it shouldn’t be a great mystery to why it was locked, or a point of contention so large, you have to quit the forum. Then again, I hear that you have a history of mistreating people here with edgy hot takes, so maybe that’s your thing?

Imo, you should drop it, and stick around.
 
TwoDurans

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"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
Bye felicia. Sorry GAF isn't 4chan or kiwi, OP. Maybe you'll like it better there.

Or you could always look at a mirror say your racist shit, and giggle to yourself.
 
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DrAspirino

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Lawrence ‘Chunk’ Cohen said:
I think this about his "okay to dislike gay people, black people" thread being closed last night?

www.neogaf.com

Why it's ok to dislike black people women, gays etc.

I say this from the point of view as a fairly average white guy that wish harm to anyone really, want to deprive anyone of their rights for any reason, treat anyone as less than human, or wish anything negative on anyone. But yes, disliking black people, white people, men, women, Mexicans...
www.neogaf.com www.neogaf.com
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Gargus has a point here: it's ok to be racist or homophobic or whatever, BUT it's not ok to not expect backlash or criticism about it. All ideas should be debatable, but also everyone should own their own discourse and repercussions.

So... yeah... I disagree on most points of views from Gargus (racism, homophobia, etc), but that's me. I can't force him to change his ways and he can't force me to change mine. We can agree to disagree.
 
TwoDurans

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"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
DrAspirino said:
Gargus has a point here: it's ok to be racist or homophobic or whatever, BUT it's not ok to not expect backlash or criticism about it. All ideas should be debatable, but also everyone should own their own discourse and repercussions.

So... yeah... I disagree on most points of views from Gargus (racism, homophobia, etc), but that's me. I can't force him to change his ways and he can't force me to change mine. We can agree to disagree.
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Nah, dude can do whatever he wants in his own mind, and his own home. Posting about it on a gaming message board was ignorant. There's no discussion to be had here on that topic, and tbh within most corners of the internet. The worst part is that he probably didn't think what he was doing was bad.
 
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TwoDurans said:
Nah, dude can do whatever he wants in his own mind, and his own home. Posting about it on a gaming message board was ignorant. There's no discussion to be had here on that topic, and tbh within most corners of the internet. The worst part is that he probably didn't think what he was doing was bad.
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Nah not really. I think I understand what he was trying to say but he worded it very clumsily and made the common mistake of conflating race and culture. The former is immutable; the latter is not.
 
bitbydeath

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matt404au said:
Nah not really. I think I understand what he was trying to say but he worded it very clumsily and made the common mistake of conflating race and culture. The former is immutable; the latter is not.
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Agreed, from what I recall it was actually against racism but just written poorly.
 
TwoDurans

TwoDurans

"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
matt404au said:
Nah not really. I think I understand what he was trying to say but he worded it very clumsily and made the common mistake of conflating race and culture. The former is immutable; the latter is not.
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bitbydeath said:
Agreed, from what I recall it was actually against racism but just written poorly.
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Dunno, man. His section on black comedians had a lot in there that rang of "I'm not racist, my best friends are black". I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but then again he did make this thread. I will say props to the mods and EviLore EviLore for laughing this off. If this were another forum he would have been burned at a stake for the first thread, and probably dox'd for the second.
 
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Papa

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TwoDurans said:
Dunno, man. His section on black comedians had a lot in there that rang of "I'm not racist, my best friends are black". I'm all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but then again he did make this thread.
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Shrug.

I know the hooting and hollering culture that he’s talking about and I don’t like it either. The difference is that I recognise that it’s not exclusive to blacks even if there is a correlation. It’s fine to not like cultures; it’s not fine to deprive someone of rights based on an immutable characteristic. He did say this even though it was seemingly lost in his overall message. I’m not gonna hang, draw and quarter him because I think I get what he was trying to say even though his ideas weren’t fully formed and were poorly communicated.
 
Athena~

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Actually OP, no, it's not normal to dislike people just because they belong to a certain race or gender. In fact that's very ignorant and immature. We are not Era aka the most disgusting forum ever where even the admins and mods post vile shits against the white people on a daily basis.

I did read your thread and think you are misguided. As a rule, I like/dislike people because of how they treat me, not how they look or what they like. Is that too hard for you to do? Also, you can go think or like what you want, but your thread was advocating people to follow your misguided ways:

OP said:
So just remember, it's ok to not like a group of people.
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That's why you thread was locked. The guy with a Totoro avatar was calling you out in the Meta thread why didn't you discuss with him over there? Peace.
 
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captainraincoat

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What did the op think would happen if they posted a thread title like that......did he think gaf was some alt right neo nazi forum like Ree would have you believe?
nope.....we dont have a hive mind telling us what to think and most people are not assholes here

Op would not of even got a chance to refresh the browser after posting that shit if he was on reee.
 
nemiroff

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I think neogaf as a site is right to protect itself from specific things that probably could end up making a bad image and thus hurting it.
And another thing, OP could've easily discussed the same things philosophically if he had only bothered to rewrite the post and used a different language.
 
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Mista

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nemiroff said:
I think neogaf as a site is right to protect itself from specific things that probably could end up making a bad image and thus hurting it.
And another thing, OP could've easily discussed the same things philosophically if he had only bothered to rewrite the post and used a different language.
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OP is a joke. He was sneakily being racist thinking nobody would notice. Could’ve worded his thread better and simpler. Just shows how much of hypocrite he is

Might be also suffering from Schizophrenia
 
Jooxed

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Mista said:
OP is a joke. He was sneakily being racist thinking nobody would notice. Could’ve worded his thread better and simpler. Just shows how much of hypocrite he is

Might be also suffering from Schizophrenia
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Look at his post history dude was always an insensitive troll.
 
Kamina

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Its okay to dislike people, OP, but you dont meed to make a thread about it to justify your dislike, nor do you need to make a thread complaining about the fact that your dislike thread turned out to be closed.

In other words: you dislike people while we dislike your disliking people threads
 
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#Phonepunk#

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it is funny if you think about it:

OP makes a thread about how it is ok to dislike many people

many people dislike OP's thread

OP complains that people dislike his thread

irony achieved
 
Tesseract

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nemiroff said:
I think neogaf as a site is right to protect itself from specific things that probably could end up making a bad image and thus hurting it.
And another thing, OP could've easily discussed the same things philosophically if he had only bothered to rewrite the post and used a different language.
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