Victory Red
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She sees them slide it down instead of up and grabs the knife and slots their throat?
They were scared and she had them by the balls.
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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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She sees them slide it down instead of up and grabs the knife and slots their throat?
They were scared and she had them by the balls.
When I saw that, I thought for sure Bernard was going to get got by him. I hope they have a scene with a cgi MIB from the original.
Will the Thrill
Banned
At least it wasn't Paranoid Android lol, would of been hilarious just to overlay that song on a scene. I'll give them a pass considering these are their own covers too.
Can't wait for Pop is Dead for the final scene in the finale.
Give them time, they've got four more episodes.
Will the Thrill
Banned
If they do PA, they need to just straight up have Radiohead come out and perform a concert for the employees over scenes of a robot uprising happening somewhere else in the park. I will not settle for anything less.
When they do eventually play Paranoid Android (I know those fuckers won't be able to resist), I'm going to be rolling my eyes for years!
If they did their own rendition of Pop is Dead that might redeem this aspect of the show for me.
Thom Yorke guest stars as Arnold and sings it live.
Will the Thrill
Banned
Yes it turns out Paranoid Android is the final piece of the puzzle turning all hosts into a murderous robot army and Radiohead created it for this sole reason.
I don't think I'd be able to stop laughing if they actually did Pop is Dead for some reason, maybe have the hosts perform the music video.
Jinfash
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So before the two butchers altered Maeve's stats, they mentioned a higher up has already altered her stats in a non-logged session and upped her Paranoia. Meaning her whole existential arc is part of a bigger plan and not a coincidence. Her rebellion is a calculated move.
I definitely thought it was the same person, but I haven't went back and checked the photo.
Saren is Bad
Member
Yep. Nice catch.
More_Badass
Member
Seems like the same guy
Yup. Weebay.gif.
Ghost Rider
Member
So Arnold is ford...
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Yea. Even if the techs did what people here suggested, "Arnold" would just go undo it and begin the ride again
I was wondering if the trigger phrase Dolores used on her could be related to that.
We saw someone (was it Elsie?) change Maeve's stats in an earlier episode, when she wasn't connecting with the guests adequately. I don't recall paranoia being mentioned at the time, though. Wonder if that's what the butchers were referring to or if an unknown party has been making changes as well.
The current logo was also shown during the lab tour. It hadn't clicked before until I saw it again this episode, but the full logo says a "A Delos Destination". It reminds me of the directv rebrand post att buyout, how they use the phrase "Now part of the att family".
Also while searching for an image of the full logo I came across some VR promo event HBO did a few months ago that mimicked the WW guest intake. Might mean nothing but they used current logo for it instead of the old one.
SneakySneaks
Member
I think the dog counts as a host too.
scorcher59
Member
what about Jock the dog then?
More_Badass
Member
"A Delos Destination", huh? Which implies there are more destinations/parks
Garrett 2U
Member
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
You're right, but it was a regular employee in... Behavior or was it narrative? And the stat they altered was explicitly stated to be related to aggression/assertiveness. Elsie caught it in her logs and called them out for being idiots. It could be related this, or it could a red herring.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
At the end of this episode I realized this show isn't for me. All the vague mysteries the show presents are a tedious slog. I really had high hopes after the strong first episode, but all I see is wasted potential.
Will the Thrill
Banned
Didn't the original movie have Roman world and Medieval world? I doubt they exist currently in the show but Delos probably would want to make more attractions down the line.
The One and Done
Member
Aaaand the show just got clichéd as fuck. Only saving grace was that ass.
movie spoilers:
the park is called Delos, and westworld is one part of the world, with medieval world and roman world. no proof of other worlds yet in the show. the movie sequel also had more worlds (movie was futureworld, with futureworld/space station as a themed world)
If you have not seen it, definitely. It's one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
It was enjoyable. I highly recommend renting it.
Garrett 2U
Member
I made a quick comparison of the host we met in this episode who is supposedly Ford's father versus the photographed man who is supposedly Arnold.
http://imgur.com/a/AwOHX
http://imgur.com/a/AwOHX
They have very similar features, an identical haircut, and the same clothes.
Frank the Great
Banned
Definitely the same guy IMO. Bernard even recognized him as such. It could mean anything though.
One thing that may be relevant is that the robot we saw tonight seemed to have some sort of British accent. Does Arnold in the Shell have a British accent? I don't remember hearing one but I could be wrong. Again, it could mean anything.
One thing that may be relevant is that the robot we saw tonight seemed to have some sort of British accent. Does Arnold in the Shell have a British accent? I don't remember hearing one but I could be wrong. Again, it could mean anything.
that's for sure him. Bernard even asks if he's Arnold.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Um, is this even up for discussion? I thought it was clear as day. When Ford handed Bernard the photo of the two, he said "this is Arnold" but never pointed out which is which. Bernard just assumed it was the other guy, now revealed to be Ford's dad replica. This is why I strongly believe between Ford and Arnold, one is an AI/host.
And for the second time I'll quote a line from the movie stated by one of the head scientists: "We're not dealing with ordinary machines here. These are highly complicated pieces of equipment, almost as complicated as living organisms. In some cases they've been designed by other computers."
#WeSkynetNow
Garrett 2U
Member
Oh my mistake, I missed that
Escort mission. MiB had to prevent Teddy, the dumb NPC on a rail, from dying until Teddy reached the vehicle mount gun.
It was episode 2, just watched the scene again. Elsie notes that the guys in narrative had bumped up her aggression. Then Elsie bumps Maeve's perception and emotional acuity. So all sorts of people have been altering Maeve's stats.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
I need to rewatch today's scene and confirm the stats mentioned as being altered.
So we have now seen mechanical first gen hosts, and they are indistinguishable on the outside from current day.
So are all the people all week who used mechanical,robotic, you'd be able to tell they are not real as an argument against two timeframes even against previous evidence and arguments made by myself and others going to willfully eat crow, or just bow out of the thread?
And as someone who only bought into two timeframes with last weeks episode, and will gladly admit I am wrong if it's not, kind of funny that in an episode mostly about present day out of park stuff the only real in park storyline we saw was Teddy and MIB no hide or hair of Logan and William.
P.S. Nice to see Marsden get a win.
So are all the people all week who used mechanical,robotic, you'd be able to tell they are not real as an argument against two timeframes even against previous evidence and arguments made by myself and others going to willfully eat crow, or just bow out of the thread?
And as someone who only bought into two timeframes with last weeks episode, and will gladly admit I am wrong if it's not, kind of funny that in an episode mostly about present day out of park stuff the only real in park storyline we saw was Teddy and MIB no hide or hair of Logan and William.
P.S. Nice to see Marsden get a win.
Garrett 2U
Member
Because as many westworld employees have said before: westworld has different purposes to different groups of people.
For the theme park, they want to limit the hosts' intelligence. But I'm sure you can imagine scenarios where you'd want a fully intelligent host.
Yeah, I'll admit I was wrong about the old mechanical hosts. That's a point for the two timelines team. However it adds a new wrinkle too, in that 80-ish hosts in the park are STILL the old mechanical style, apparently including Dolores.
So, if in the future we see William open up a host and find mechanic bits inside, we still won't know what time period we're seeing.
By the way, I was practically yelling at the screen when Maeve was watching the welcome video on the wall. If they had included a logo in there we might have been able to finally put this theory to bed!
Uh, Ford is standing next to Arnold in that picture.
As if they weren't smug before.
Though wasn't that mention of trouble in Pariah supposed to reference the commotion that went down in the last episode with Delores/William/Lawrence?