What is the single biggest lie ever to have been told in all of human history?
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Dubbedinenglish
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Historically i'd go with the "Salvation for Crusades" in the Middle East.
Otherwise the intellegence mis-information given to the Nazis to be Allied intellegence before the Normandy landings.
Otherwise the intellegence mis-information given to the Nazis to be Allied intellegence before the Normandy landings.
industrian
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"Iraq has chemical and biological weapons, that Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which could be activated within 45 minutes, including against his own Shia population, and that he is actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons capability."
HellKarnassus
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Anthropomorphic global warming. Al Gore stole so much attention and resources from other legitimate concerns, such as water pollution, that he will solely be responsible for millions of deaths within the next century
lightless_shado
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dragonelite said:
"yes we can" wasn't really a lie. It was more like the answer to the question "can we change the old administration to something new and possibly better?"
I think another lie that was very important was the one started about the individual being more important than the group. I think its an idea that emerged in the early 20th century that was really important in helping create P.R. and robust advertising. The notion that a person should stand out and do what he or she feels like regardless of the group opened the door for really selfish behavior and class division.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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Marijuana users have lots of interesting storys.EmmanuelMunoz said:
Keru_Shiri
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I'm hard pressed to think of any massive lie told that is neither political or religious in nature.
Musha_Soturi
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"A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He betrayed and murdered your father."
lightless_shado said:
The assassination in Sarajevo, coupled with treaties and pacts made earlier, sprinkled with a sentiment that there´s been to long without a proper war in Europe and all sides wanting revenge for earlier slights, losses or simply greed for territory made sure that in a matter of weeks several big monarchies were at each other´s throats.
At the Versaille conference, though, Germany had to sign that it was solely responsible for the First World War. Germans didn´t like that one bit, just like they didn´t like being starved, occupied and generally miserable.
Hitler played this sentiment to his advantage, but there were warnings even before that the aftermath of WW1 would soon lead to another war, but the victors simply didn´t want to listen to people raining on their "We won, make them suffer" parade.
dinazimmerman
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Keru_Shiri said:
this is just another thread in which users signal their political and religious affiliations and stances to each other. big surprise.
TheRagnCajun
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ITT: People ignore the ground rules and take this opportunity to post things they disagree with as 'the biggest lie ever'.
plasticpassion
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This. And the whole war on drugs. UghIceCold said:
Science has a few... Such as Hwang Woo-suk's mis-representation of his research in stem cells published in the journal Science. He was a national hero and was showered with research funds before the rest of the scientific community caught up with him.Keru_Shiri said:
You mean Luminiferous Ether, right? Ether compounds are a real thing, and not a lie:Momo said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ether
Even then, Luminiferous Ether isn't what I would call a lie, just a misconception, since I don't think anyone was intentional trying to fool others.
Mael said:
Not sure what you mean. Do you mean 'believe' as in "i think the idea he presented would be good for the country" or 'believe' as in "I think the politician will unfailingly deliver on all his promises"?
Of course we know that some political ideas will be good and some will be bad, but this actually does represent the spectrum of opinion. It's not an opinion the Bible is a lie. It's a fact merely refused to be accepted by a particularly gullible section of society.
That said, this bible discussion would have been over ages ago were two or three posters not intent on trying to pin someone down in atonement for answering the obvious answer. Most of the discussion here has moved on. If you dislike the assertion, you'd probably do best to move on too.
lightless_shado
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Binabik15 said:
Yeah I got that, and I know that he used those facts to his advantage, but he also needed to make something up to turn people he didn't like into scapegoats and I'm pretty sure he blamed the Jews specifically for Germany's economic problems. I could be wrong though, if I am its never a bad thing to be corrected.
dinazimmerman
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MC Safety said:
obviously, i'm not good at making jokes.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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I wasn't posting against you, your post brought up marijuana and it reminded me of all the shit storys I had to hear from its fans, my post was nothing more then that.EmmanuelMunoz said:
spiderman123
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The greatest lie ever had to be Reaganomics or Capitalism IMO
MarkMclovin
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I thought the WMD's statement by Bush would be the biggest lie.
TheRagnCajun
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Rapstah said:
I think there's a difference between 'lies' perpetuated by ignorance, misinformation or backwards logic, and lies where the teller knows full well its not true. You see most people rationalize lying by telling themselves its true, and its much easier to believe a lie when everyone else believes it too.
I think the best examples for the sake of this topic are the ones when you can identify who's lips it came from, and know that he had absolutely no faith in what he was saying. Thats just my interpretation of what constitutes as the 'biggest lie'.
Deadly Cyclone
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Zenith said:
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The first person to invent religion and use it as a tool to control people was a genius and a lying asshole, so he, whoever he is, gets my vote for worst lie ever told.
Billions of deaths, trillions and trillions of dollars stolen, false hope, you really can't get much worse.
Billions of deaths, trillions and trillions of dollars stolen, false hope, you really can't get much worse.
WanderingWind
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Be nice.
See, this is exactly the sort of this I was aiming to avoid. I specifically outlined in the OP that I wanted 'one specific thing a person has said that has been comprehensively proven to be false.' I understand what you're implying, but I feel I made myself fairly clear in the OP and despite that you've still posted something which is against the spirit of what the OP was asking for.Amir0x said:
I'm sorry, but I have a right to create threads that outline whatever specifications and parameters for discussion that I want. You have a right to disagree with me and criticise me for it if you will, but it appears to me like you already understood what I was trying to achieve but chose to ignore me anyway. I admit, I find that rather rude. Feel free to make your own thread on this subject if you are so upset by the boundaries I attempted to set for discussion in this thread.Amir0x said:
this comment further proves my statement. You lack tact.Amir0x said:
Being an atheist doesn't mean you should be a complete asshole to others. If you feel that religion is false, challenge it in an intelligent and respectful manner. The way you bash religion makes you seem a bit childish--and this is coming from someone who isn't religious.
Juicy Bob said:
I absolutely understand. That's why I didn't choose the Bible. I was responding to a person who DID choose the Bible, and suggested were it not for your random rule in the sand, it would definitively be the choice of most people.
I am disagreeing with your specifications and perimeters because your assertion is wrong. The Bible has comprehensively been proven false; therefore, your comment that you only want things like that suggests it is perfectly OK to include it were it not for you arbitrarily drawing a line in the sand.
And it is OK for you to do that. It is. I never said otherwise. That's why I didn't choose the Bible. I am, however, all for discussing the terms of the topic and why it's flawed. And that's what I'm doing.
threenote said:
Again, you have not made any argument at all as to how it demonstrates lack of tact. You're just deciding randomly that something should be given extra courtesy whereas it has demonstrated no special requirement of that. I would treat it no differently from any other fiction.
TheRagnCajun
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Drkirby said:
I watched Fair Game which made it look like CIA tried to argue that the evidence was very weak, but the Bush administration decided to act on the weak evidence anyways.
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