Prime Blue
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The only time I died was when I recorded the "Game Over" composition for my soundtrack rip. :lolviciouskillersquirrel said:
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What we know about Legend of Zelda Wii prior to E3 2010
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JasoNsider
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viciouskillersquirrel said:
Haha
But really, it couldn't have been often. I died only once in that game and only because I was literally not even paying attention to my life after a while and charging right in for every situation. I was actually shocked when I saw it, realizing I didn't even know what the lose-condition looked like!It's all very difficult to wrap my head around, because Miyamoto was once quoted saying his most memorable moments for gaming are also the most challenging ones. Again, taking the New Super Mario Bros: Wii approach may be the answer here. If somebody loses many times in a row, just give them some sort of "super guide" type of way out.
ShockingAlberto's post needs to be copy/pasted into the first post of the main GAF Zelda reveal thread
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Thunder Monkey said:
this gordita got dat 3D LOOK
I just hope Tingle is back, after Wind Waker they paid far too much attention to internet manchildren. The console Zelda team stumbled around in a daze between 2003 and 2006 without a clear vision for the franchise, starting out with fresh ideas with the wolf and the animal interaction and then ditching those to make a brown OOT retread. I'm sure they now want to do what EAD Tokyo did with Galaxy and really re-establish the franchise.
IrishNinja
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JasoNsider said:
i said fringe cause there's very common complaints - overworld in TP didnt reward exploration, some early dungeons felt uninspired, some feel the game just clones OoT, motion controls, etc. there's a zelda complaint thread here as often as religion or mac threads in the OT section, and you're the first dude i heard say this. you're entitled to your opinion, just struck me as odd/highly fringe shit. there's series known to be challenging - Ninja Gaiden, new megamans, etc - zelda's not one of them.
yeah, but like half the devs these days reference Zelda. again, okami, darksiders and such, i totally get the feel. not to give you shit here, but what specifically do these have in common for you? what you described as fear of every monster around the corner's attack in demons souls...i could say that was true of final fantasy, shadowgate, deadly towers etc, not seeing the specific connection here, unless you were really terrified as a kid that an octorok was gonna fuck your shit up you were using a potion and the game wouldnt pause for some reason.
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Deleted member 30609
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it IS pretty exciting
Hot Coldman
Banned
Dascu said:
"RIDLEY IN 3D! OMG"
*sakamoto comes on stage dressed in varia suit*
"YOU'RE THE MAN! YOU'RE THE MAN!"
RoadHazard
Gold Member
BowieZ said:
This is what Wiki says:
Wikipedia said:
I think that's the piece you're referring to?
And regarding not using orchestrated music for the whole game:
Wikipedia said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Twilight_Princess#Music
I really hope they choose to go down the fully orchestrated (and live recorded) path this time.
eXistor
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I agree. I replayed Zelda II not so long ago and it was quite obvious how much like DS Zelda II really is. I thought that was quite a fun realization when I was playing it, it also made me respect both Zelda II (such an underrated game) and DS even more.JasoNsider said:I disagree, sir
That said, for the new Zelda I don't give a hoot what the game will look like artistically. Personally I'd prefer aLttP in 3d, but it's not the style that makes the games good or not so good. As long as they nail the gameplay I'm game. Hell even if the game looks like a pile of steaming horsemanure I'm game, there's no way I'd miss out on a new Zelda.
I meant Galaxy 2, which took place a few months ago. It seems to me like it would have been a good opportunity to kill two birds and also record some early Zelda pre-release/trailer music, but it's merely speculation of course.watkinzez said:
Ahh, ok, thanks, I stand corrected about the trailer composition.RoadHazard said:
As for 'fully orchestrated', I was presuming that they would pick an epic battle theme and use that for the trailer... again, speculation. They may end up just using some stock epic music from past games, Zelda or otherwise. But yeah I think it's a reasonably safe bet that a new Zelda fits the requirement for -- and will ultimately use -- live recorded orchestral/ensemble music (if SMG1/2 do).
Jason's Ultimatum
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-Graphics and artstyle resemembling Zelda NES artwork.
-Environments so huge they make Link look like an ant. Even the trees are really tall.
- No NPCs, except for a few crazy characters who speak in riddles, like in Zelda NES.
-You're thrown into a world. That's it. No help, except for maybe stumbling into a cave and you find a riddle on the wall that helps you find a dungeon. Dungeons aren't in order.
-Screw all of these new weapons. Just Link's sword, bow, potion, and some bombs.
-Time to be creative with the dungeons, even with the listed items above I've mentioned.
EDIT-Basically I want Zelda NES remade. :lol
-Environments so huge they make Link look like an ant. Even the trees are really tall.
- No NPCs, except for a few crazy characters who speak in riddles, like in Zelda NES.
-You're thrown into a world. That's it. No help, except for maybe stumbling into a cave and you find a riddle on the wall that helps you find a dungeon. Dungeons aren't in order.
-Screw all of these new weapons. Just Link's sword, bow, potion, and some bombs.
-Time to be creative with the dungeons, even with the listed items above I've mentioned.
EDIT-Basically I want Zelda NES remade. :lol
I may be mistaken but iirc this TP trailer theme was composed by Yokota:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiq06cQPH44&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tiq06cQPH44&feature=related
LegendofJoe
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GCX said:
Especially when you consider the fact that Zelda has typically been the franchise which Nintendo approves the largest development budgets for.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
GCX said:
Yeah, but aren't we talking about this one?
I think this is a briliant piece of Zelda music, especially starting from 1:09. There's a bit of the Zelda theme, there's a bit of Zelda's Lullaby (1:32), etc., and it's all very epic. Sent chills down my spine the first time I saw the trailer and heard the music.
EDIT: Here's the actual trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHu7hvxjdww
gamergirly
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
Most of what you said sounds good. Except that part. Link needs somebody in the world....
Yeah, and I'm all for new things, too. Nothing has... been new since DS launched, aside from the control interface. It's still the same old Zelda, only easier.Leondexter said:
My hope is that now that we've had the easy Wii Zelda (TP, lol), they'll be more willing to make Wii Zelda 2 harder. Hopefully.
And I'm thankful for that, but that's Mario. This is Zelda. (Also well over half of Galaxy 1 was easier, if only because the controls are tighter and more polished, but that's kind if irrelevant.)Branduil said:
beelzebozo
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Haunted said:
hugz <3
EmCeeGramr
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my hopes for the next zelda:
-shit
-nostalgia-based crap
- i should never be a game designer
-what the hell is this
-shit
-nostalgia-based crap
- i should never be a game designer
-what the hell is this
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
EmCeeGramr said:
developed by ueda
JasoNsider said:
Considering how they have handled NSMBW and Galaxy 2, I wouldn't be surprised if they did something along those lines. Not necessarily beating the game normally, or beating it while using Super Guide giving your complete file an asterisk. For example, make the game easy for those who load up on fairies, but tough for those who don't, and have a complete no fairy save getting some sort of special recognition. Hell, it could be as simple as giving away a boss's weakness on the game over screen if you die too much.
EmCeeGramr
Member
i would play tp in anticipation, but then I remembered the 500 fucking hours it takes for the game to start and how boring things are between dungeons and how stupid the ending is
The Lamonster
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I'm fine with a small number of NPCs as long as there are tons and tons of monsters in the world, just like LOZ.gamergirly said:
However, I'd rather see a new badass Zelda Wii filled with NPCs PLUS a "New Legend of Zelda Wii" game.
Hot Coldman
Banned
EmCeeGramr said:
Just download a save from the beginning of the Yeti's Mansion and shove it onto a SD card, put in yer Wii, done.
AceBandage
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Ok, so, here's something we haven't really discussed yet.
What instrument will Link play this time?
Personally, I'm hoping for Electric Guitar.
What instrument will Link play this time?
Personally, I'm hoping for Electric Guitar.
Jason's Ultimatum
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gamergirly said:
I think having a few NPCs, even none, would add a sense of loneliness that could make the game more immersive.
AceBandage
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Meier said:
How does it fell?
The not having a soul part, that is.
BertramCooper
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AceBandage said:
Sammy Samusu
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Fixed.beelzebozo said:
LegendofJoe
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Green Scar said:
But then you'd miss the best dungeon in the game (The Arbiter's Grounds).
The Lamonster
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Shadow of the Colossus had very few NPCs.Jason's Ultimatum said:
I'm hoping that with the appearance of Super Guide in NSMBW and Cosmic Guide in Galaxy 2 Nintendo will implement something similar in the new Zelda (Miyamoto has already talked about it).
That would allow them to keep the overall difficulty higher, and then offer to help the player if they get stuck. That way more experienced players can still enjoy a semblance of challenge, and EVERYONE can make it to the end.
I dunno, a few years ago there was a quote from an interview, I think it was with someone at Valve, about how a lot of consumers never even finish games, and how developers spend all that time on the late game content that a large percentage of people never experience because they get stuck or bored or whatever.
And that really resonated with me. It seems ridiculous to lock away so much content behind a skill barrier that not everyone can meet, especially when they paid full price for the game, and I think that's something that the video game industry is going to have to really address if it is serious about becoming a mainstream form of entertainment on par with movies, etc.
By all means, don't give the less skilled players who require help to beat the game the exact same reward as players who complete it by themselves (I like how something as simple as not being able to get a gold star in NSMBW is actually a significant incentive not to use the Super Guide, for example), but don't just lock away all that content either.
That would allow them to keep the overall difficulty higher, and then offer to help the player if they get stuck. That way more experienced players can still enjoy a semblance of challenge, and EVERYONE can make it to the end.
I dunno, a few years ago there was a quote from an interview, I think it was with someone at Valve, about how a lot of consumers never even finish games, and how developers spend all that time on the late game content that a large percentage of people never experience because they get stuck or bored or whatever.
And that really resonated with me. It seems ridiculous to lock away so much content behind a skill barrier that not everyone can meet, especially when they paid full price for the game, and I think that's something that the video game industry is going to have to really address if it is serious about becoming a mainstream form of entertainment on par with movies, etc.
By all means, don't give the less skilled players who require help to beat the game the exact same reward as players who complete it by themselves (I like how something as simple as not being able to get a gold star in NSMBW is actually a significant incentive not to use the Super Guide, for example), but don't just lock away all that content either.
Jason's Ultimatum
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The Lamonster said:
And that's why SotC was such a great game. Well, one of the reasons.
Hot Coldman
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LegendofJoe said:
OK from there then. Either way it's not hard to get straight to TP's best bits.
AceBandage
Banned
Gilby said:
Steel drums.