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[brandonh83]

uhhhh no it wasn't

Twilight Princess is one of those games that gets unfounded hate, where almost every comment about the game just confuses the fuck out of you. Deal with it.

 

[LegendofJoe]

Meltdowns. No, really, there is going to be a shit-storm if this is not shown. And it won't even be Nintendo's fault. People have already built up the expectation based on little to no evidence that it will be present. Partially because it kind of makes sense, but mostly because it's been long enough and people just want a brand new wave of Zelda.

You are sorely mistaken here, there is ample evidence that Zelda will be shown at this year's e3. People would have a right to be angry with Nintendo if Zelda is not shown.

 

[upandaway]

I'm expecting that part to be filled by sales talk and Vitality Sensor this year.

So here's how I'm thinking it'll break down:

Minutes 0-60: Nintendo 3DS / DS
Minutes 61-90: Sales + Vitality Sensor / Wii Relax
Minutes 91-110: Wii
Minutes 111+: Zelda Wii

I don't think they'll start with the 3DS. It seems like a late game kinda thing. Vitality Sensor -> Sales -> Zelda/3DS

 

[Chris1964]

Meltdowns. No, really, there is going to be a shit-storm if this is not shown. And it won't even be Nintendo's fault. People have already built up the expectation based on little to no evidence that it will be present. Partially because it kind of makes sense, but mostly because it's been long enough and people just want a brand new wave of Zelda.

What? Zelda Wii will be present.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I don't think they'll start with the 3DS. It seems like a late game kinda thing. Vitality Sensor -> Sales -> Zelda/3DS

No, 3DS has to be first. It's their big tentpole to please investors, they have to lead strong.

 

[Parl]

Meltdowns. No, really, there is going to be a shit-storm if this is not shown. And it won't even be Nintendo's fault. People have already built up the expectation based on little to no evidence that it will be present. Partially because it kind of makes sense, but mostly because it's been long enough and people just want a brand new wave of Zelda.

I think the biggest rumour comes from a leak from somebody called Satoru Iwata who claimed to have insider information that Zelda Wii will be shown at E3.

But if GAF is gonna base hype on rumours, it's setting itself up for disappointment.

 

[Prime Blue]

Wasn't the last Nintendo conference pretty short?

 

[Akai]

No, 3DS has to be first. It's their big tentpole to please investors, they have to lead strong.

Well where during E3 2004 did Ninty reveal the DS?

 

[Bentendo]

No, 3DS has to be first. It's their big tentpole to please investors, they have to lead strong.

Yes, I totally, completely agree with you. Start strong (3DS) end strong (Zelda).

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Zelda day! Too bad I'll be in class and miss the conference, plus a third of Sony's. :lol

 

[LegendofJoe]

Yes, I totally, completely agree with you. Start strong (3DS) end strong (Zelda).

And have something cool to show following the Vitality sensor and sales pitch (i.e. an out of left field surprise).

 

[Bentendo]

Zelda day! Too bad I'll be in class and miss the conference, plus a third of Sony's. :lol

I thought you were sick! You should definitely stay home to "get some rest" wink wink.

 

[Twig]

Twilight Princess is one of those games that gets unfounded hate, where almost every comment about the game just confuses the fuck out of you. Deal with it.

I am dealing with it. I'm calling an idiot out for being an idiot. Deal with it.

 

[upandaway]

No, 3DS has to be first. It's their big tentpole to please investors, they have to lead strong.

Did they start off with hardware before?

 

[brandonh83]

I am dealing with it. I'm calling an idiot out for being an idiot. Deal with it.

so hard to deal =(

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Well where during E3 2004 did Ninty reveal the DS?

Pretty early I believe. Then Iwata talked about the Revolution for about 10 minutes and then showed the Twilight Princess trailer.

 

[Tralfamadore64]

I am dealing with it. I'm calling an idiot out for being an idiot. Deal with it.

So much ridiculous hate and nerd rage flying around here. Starting to remember why I avoid the gaming side.

 

[Prime Blue]

Prepared for the conference.

Schöller Koala Milch...sort of an E3 tradition!

 

[upandaway]

Goddamn guys stop fighting

I know it's boring but come on

If selig was here this wouldn't have happened

So much ridiculous hate and nerd rage flying around here. Starting to remember why I avoid the gaming side.

Twig is as gentle as a Tingle deep inside.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

So much ridiculous hate and nerd rage flying around here. Starting to remember why I avoid the gaming side.

Hey, mang. Can I hang out with you? I want to become popular.

 

[Bentendo]

I'm prepared for the conference.

http://i48.tinypic.com/w6trw8.jpg[IMG]

Schöller Koala Milch...sort of an E3 tradition! :)[/QUOTE]

First, oh God, the name :lol . Second, my E3 snack consists of Kettle Cooked Barbecue Chips, a fruit smoothie, and crackers with onion and chives cheese. IT'S DELICIOUS!

 

[Caesar III]

Prepared for the conference.

Schöller Koala Milch...sort of an E3 tradition!

BRB good idea

edit: thinking about it, my othello cookies and my latte espresso are enough though

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Sorry, but you can't say Link had expectations and at the same time say he didn't due to lack of character interaction. Link had NO expectations period, cutscene or otherwise. People thought he was a nice guy and was dependable, but only a pitiful few expect him to save the day (and even then only on a small scale). Hell, even the kids (outside Colin) never figured Link would come out of nowhere to help them. It's ironic that the most praise/expectation Link gets in the game is from the three fangirls who hang outside the S.T.A.R. game, and I figure that was likely an intentional in-joke on Link's lack of reputation...

And if anything his intentions were more realistic since he kept trudging forward for Ilia's (and then Midna's) sake rather than the Ocarina of Time path of "This is your destiny, go do it now"...

Yeah, but I don't think you got my point. I know it's difficult to explain. The point is not the amount of praise he got, but instead the relationships he had with the external world.
Since the amount of oral contacts and relationship this Link had were well inferior to Majora's Mask, the quests Link had to do were all obvious. It was a straight line to follow!
Maybe Link was not put explicitly as the hero, but he acted like it all the way.
Let me just make an improper example. Since it's improper, don't kill me. Lord of the rings: the mission of Frodo was taken as crazily difficult. The defense of Helm's deep was impossible. It is in this, extreme situations, that the hero save the day, revealing himself as the hero. Not before. AFTER.

The Link in Twilight Princess: go from dungeon A to dungeon B, then to dungeon C, which in turn is tied to dungeon D. Oh boy. Oh man. What the heck. He was not a hero. he was a workman who had to destroy a certain amount of enemies in certain places. Just tell me where the typical acting of hero was in Twilight Princess.

 

[Tralfamadore64]

Hey, mang. Can I hang out with you? I want to become popular.

I don't get it.

 

[Bentendo]

BRB good idea

Is this a widely known tasty snack that I just don't know about? The Koala still cracks me up.

 

[Varjet]

Prepared for the conference.

http://i48.tinypic.com/w6trw8.jpg
Schöller Koala Milch...sort of an E3 tradition!

Schoko > Milch

Spoiler

Haven't had some of those in years

 

[Prime Blue]

First, oh God, the name :lol

German's such a beautiful language! :lol

 

[GCX]

Guys, stop fighting.

A new Zelda is going to be announced in a few hours.

And believe me, threads following that announcement will fulfill all of your debating needs and more.

 

[Caesar III]

Is this a widely known tasty snack that I just don't know about? The Koala still cracks me up.

It's just koala cookies with some chocolate nougat (like nutella) in it. This combined with a random figurine like in Kinder Surprise

 

[nosf1234]

I cant wait for meltdowns and / or megatons

 

[big_z]

I'm expecting that part to be filled by sales talk and Vitality Sensor this year.

So here's how I'm thinking it'll break down:

Minutes 0-60: Nintendo 3DS / DS
Minutes 61-90: Sales + Vitality Sensor / Wii Relax
Minutes 91-110: Wii
Minutes 111+: Zelda Wii

nintendo conferences are usually only 60-80 minutes long arent they?

i expect something more like this:

0-10: late start as always
10-30: nintendo masturbating to sales charts
31-45: 3DS shown along with upcoming DS games
46-55: wii stuff
56-60: montage
60+: gaf bitching about everything but 3DS.
51-60:

 

[Twig]

So much ridiculous hate and nerd rage flying around here. Starting to remember why I avoid the gaming side.

lol what a superiority complex you have there

might want to see someone about that U:

Twig is as gentle as a Tingle deep inside.

oh god

D:

 

[Gilby]

Prepared for the conference.

Schöller Koala Milch...sort of an E3 tradition!

:Lol. I ate so much trail mix yesterday I thought I was going to puke. It was supposed to last me 2 days

 

[Caesar III]

German's such a beautiful language! :lol

awesome :lol



@big_z: it's 120minutes this time

 

[GCX]

nintendos conferences are usually only 60-90 minutes long arent they?

I think this has been confirmed to be a 2 hour conference.

 

[dkeane]

The best will be when Nintendo starts talking about Wii Party and GAF will immediately call it the worst conference ever. I love days like today. So funny.

 

[Akai]

It is in this, extreme situations, that the hero save the day, revealing himself as the hero. Not before. AFTER.

The Link in Twilight Princess: go from dungeon A to dungeon B, then to dungeon C, which in turn is tied to dungeon D. Oh boy. Oh man. What the heck. He was not a hero. he was a workman who had to destroy a certain amount of enemies in certain places. Just tell me where the typical acting of hero was in Twilight Princess.

But Link isn't considered the Hero at the beginning of Twilight Princess. He's just a normal kid who ends up having the worst day of his life by having his childhood friend kidnapped right in front of him, getting dragged into an alternate dimension where he gets turned into a wolf and is chained up, played around with by a snarky imp, gets attacked by the townsfolk as he tries to retrieve the sword and shield, and so on and so on. Link earns that title of "Hero" THROUGH his trials in the dungeons, since that's what actually makes one a hero, no? Coming out on top against extraordinary odds against monstrous foes. What you are asking for is scenes of Link directly saving people from harm, which is understandable (yet HAS been done, like Link protecting the caravan in TP), but it by no mean somehow demeans Link's deeds just because he's indirectly saving the day through his dungeon-crawling...

 

[Aeana]

nintendo conferences are usually only 60-80 minutes long arent they?

I thought this one was supposed to be 2 hours. Maybe that wasn't confirmed. I wasn't paying very close attention.

 

[beelzebozo]

tralfamadore is not inured to the retarded level of discourse here yet. stay a while, buddy--just leave that brain and reasonable attitude at the front stoop.

 

[Prime Blue]

Is this a widely known tasty snack that I just don't know about? The Koala still cracks me up.

I don't think they're toooo popular in Germany, but they are sort of an in-the-know tip for candy lovers. And fresh out of the fridge, they're absolutely delicious on a hot summer day.

Those things got me over Nintendo's E3 conference in 2008, and that is to mean something. :lol

@big_z: it's 120minutes this time

Really? Whoa, didn't expect that.

 

[Parl]

nintendo conferences are usually only 60-80 minutes long arent they?

i expect something more like this:

0-10: late start as always
10-30: nintendo masturbating to sales charts
31-45: 3DS shown along with upcoming DS games
46-55: wii stuff
56-60: montage
60+: gaf bitching about everything but 3DS.
51-60:

This one is scheduled for 2 hours.

 

[Caesar III]

I don't think they're toooo popular in Germany,

I don't even know if they can be found in every discounter. I only see them in Edeka and Kaufland and their co-shops (simmel, real, marktkauf)

 

[Sadist]

Still without booth photos this year. I'm amazed by Nintendo's anti-leak powers :lol

Edit: Schöller Koala Milch! I loved those things when I was a kid

 

[Caesar III]

but but isn't the e3 area open for journalists right now?
I'm not sure. Perhaps they are only allowed to enter the adrium. Can someone confirm/clarify this?

 

[VOOK]

Still without booth photos this year. I'm amazed by Nintendo's anti-leak powers :lol

Edit: Schöller Koala Milch! I loved those things when I was a kid

They're using TENA.

but but isn't the e3 area open for journalists right now?
I'm not sure. Perhaps they are only allowed to enter the adrium. Can someone confirm/clarify this?

No the floor doesnt open until 1 hour after the Nintendo Conference I believe.

 

[GCX]

Still without booth photos this year. I'm amazed by Nintendo's anti-leak powers :lol

I don't think even Nintendo has managed to get this far without even one booth photo leak before.

 

[Bisnic]

Still without booth photos this year. I'm amazed by Nintendo's anti-leak powers :lol

Edit: Schöller Koala Milch! I loved those things when I was a kid

You could use that Penny-Arcade comic about Blizzard & Starcraft II with bombs inside people's head and change it to Nintendo & Zelda and it would still works. :lol

 

[robor]

Anyone else here think that MGS: Rising might be a hint at what we'll be seeing with Zelda Wii?

 

[ILikeFeet]

3 fucking hours! gawd the wait is excruciating!

 

[Bentendo]

but but isn't the e3 area open for journalists right now?
I'm not sure. Perhaps they are only allowed to enter the adrium. Can someone confirm/clarify this?

Well, it's still 8 here in Kansas so it's 6 in the morning in California, so it probably won't open for quite a few hours. I'd say it'll open DURING the Nintendo conference (which starts at 9 there) and then Nintendo will open up their exhibit shortly after their conference ends.