Pokemaniac
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Handheld titles that aren't currently on console aren't the ones to watch out for. The things that wouldn't be playable on both would be console games which are either too demanding or rely on certain non-standard control schemes.
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What we know so far about the Nintendo NX with sources
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Handheld titles that aren't currently on console aren't the ones to watch out for. The things that wouldn't be playable on both would be console games which are either too demanding or rely on certain non-standard control schemes.
Umm based on what?
ReyVGM
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Damn, still a Junior? When will both or our upgrades happen? Or are we stuck here?
HAHAHAHAHA - true. Although I won't be buying anything Nintendo day 1 anymore until I'm comfortable with ongoing Western third party support. The SCD patent just excites me as a geek who loves this sort of stuff.
James Scott
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Thinking back to it, Capcom should really appreciate the NX seeing as they've done the dual releases a bunch of times before.
MH3U which is likely the best example, they also did RE: revelations and EX Troopers (which admittedly didn't do well)
Seems like if a company wanted to, they could get a lot more out of a handheld but the result is a fairly expensive game that would likely benefit from being multiplatform.
I'm hoping developers push the handheld as much as Capcom did with this mindset
Especially if they're heavily stylized like this or MH stories
http://youtu.be/Wr1HMERZcBs
MH3U which is likely the best example, they also did RE: revelations and EX Troopers (which admittedly didn't do well)
Seems like if a company wanted to, they could get a lot more out of a handheld but the result is a fairly expensive game that would likely benefit from being multiplatform.
I'm hoping developers push the handheld as much as Capcom did with this mindset
Especially if they're heavily stylized like this or MH stories
http://youtu.be/Wr1HMERZcBs
Taking a stab at what games are going to be announced for the NX:
Practically confirmed
-Dragon Quest XI
Likely to happen
-Smash Bros NX (Probably a port of 3DS/WiiU)
-Mario NX (The 3D World dev team stated how the next Mario game probably wasnt going to be on WiiU, but rather on Nintendos next console instead. Galaxy 2 came out in 2010 and 3D world came out in 2013, so the timeline matches up perfectly.)
"I have no idea" territory
-Pikmin 4 (Either a late WiiU title or an NX title that slipped past the cracks.)
-Legend of Zelda (Probably a port of the WiiU version ala how Twilight Princess was handled)
-Retro Studios next project (Though DK Tropical Freeze came out in 2014, I'm feeling hopeful that at least something gets shown off in regards to this.)
Wishful thinking territory
-Warioware NX (I feel like this is bound to happen since it's been awhile since the last proper Warioware game. Plus, the tech demos the Warioware team made for WiiU eventually became Game & Wario.)
-WiiSports/NintendoLand equivalent (The obligatory pack-in title.)
-Sonic 25th anniversary game
-One of Bandai Namco's AAA titles in production for NX
Practically confirmed
-Dragon Quest XI
Likely to happen
-Smash Bros NX (Probably a port of 3DS/WiiU)
-Mario NX (The 3D World dev team stated how the next Mario game probably wasnt going to be on WiiU, but rather on Nintendos next console instead. Galaxy 2 came out in 2010 and 3D world came out in 2013, so the timeline matches up perfectly.)
"I have no idea" territory
-Pikmin 4 (Either a late WiiU title or an NX title that slipped past the cracks.)
-Legend of Zelda (Probably a port of the WiiU version ala how Twilight Princess was handled)
-Retro Studios next project (Though DK Tropical Freeze came out in 2014, I'm feeling hopeful that at least something gets shown off in regards to this.)
Wishful thinking territory
-Warioware NX (I feel like this is bound to happen since it's been awhile since the last proper Warioware game. Plus, the tech demos the Warioware team made for WiiU eventually became Game & Wario.)
-WiiSports/NintendoLand equivalent (The obligatory pack-in title.)
-Sonic 25th anniversary game
-One of Bandai Namco's AAA titles in production for NX
Summer Lesson
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Shikamaru Ninja
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Sordid imaginations. You know just how GameFreak added imaginary code to prevent you from playing Pokemon on your Super Game Boy or Game Boy Player.
I think there is some kind of a racing game at launch. Be it F-Zero, Wave Race, or Diddy Kong Racing. Unless someone else provides it. But I really think there will be an early racing game.
web_slinger_62
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What if there is absolutely no intention of any sort of shared library?
Maybe the consolidated development teams just means "Here's Mario Kart 9 for NX handheld and Mario Kart 9 for console!"
Just like smash bros, but it would be significantly easier to develop both titles simultaneously.
Maybe the consolidated development teams just means "Here's Mario Kart 9 for NX handheld and Mario Kart 9 for console!"
Just like smash bros, but it would be significantly easier to develop both titles simultaneously.
Its wasted resources making two games ala Smash rather than making one smash and selling it to two audiences.
Well there are people who are still upset that the 3DS version held back the Wii-U version (ice Climbers) so they need to be careful if they choose to go that route.
Because Nintendo has reached the point where they can no longer support two separate dedicated gaming platforms on their own without incurring software droughts for both. Not to mention that handheld experiences are starting to come closer to their console counterparts (& the mention of the 3DS cartridge manufacturer being involved with the NX Platform). Your way would result in wasting resources.
web_slinger_62
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And that would be the point of "unified development" it would take less resources to develop both games (than it currently is) and software droughts would happen less if they can pump out games faster, not necessarily for both platforms at once.
I imagine with a unified structure that porting a game from the handheld to the console or vice versa (with the same architecture) should take less time than a typical multiplatform developer to port from one console to another
Spyder_Monkey
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ffs someone made a podcast about this now.
But then you'd run into the issue of there being two of the exact same game at retail, something that Nintendo would probably want to avoid (given that, correct me if I'm wrong, they aren't as buddy-buddy with retailers as of late). And even then, the list of manufacturers that came out not too long ago had the 3DS cartridge manufacturer but not Panasonic (the Wii U disc manufacturer). Granted, it may have been just an incomplete list, but it's kind of a weird omission at this stage.
Pretty close to my guesses.
Super Mario 3D
The Legend of Zelda U
Smash Bros. Tournament Edition
Pikmin 4 (Q1 2017)
Retro's title (Q1 2017)
Tales of Berseria
Dragon Quest XI
Games to come between Q2 2017 and Q1 2018:
Sonic 3D
FFXV
Metroid
Xenoblade Chronicles remaster
DKCR and TF remaster
Splatoon 2
Mario Maker port
So based on this thread the NX will be anywhere from slightly worse than Xbox One to better than the PS4. I'm guessing that the truth is somewhere in the middle.
The NX hype has almost made me forget about the Zelda hype. Almost. We still don't even know the real names of either. I hope Zelda NX, assuming there is one, gets a few graphical tweaks. Like maybe some better AA or something.
I also think they should cover every floor surface with dat grass. Maybe the walls too.
That channel and it's related site have been going on for a little while. They're really bullish on the NX's power so if you wanna feed your hype (and disappointment potential) that's the place to be lol.
The NX hype has almost made me forget about the Zelda hype. Almost. We still don't even know the real names of either. I hope Zelda NX, assuming there is one, gets a few graphical tweaks. Like maybe some better AA or something.
I also think they should cover every floor surface with dat grass. Maybe the walls too.
That channel and it's related site have been going on for a little while. They're really bullish on the NX's power so if you wanna feed your hype (and disappointment potential) that's the place to be lol.
I'm honestly expecting the NX Console to be slightly worse than the Xbox One for the sake of saving costs. As for the NX Handheld, I'm expecting it to be within the Wii U's ballpark in terms of graphical fidelity.
web_slinger_62
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Well I'm hoping Nintendo is smart enough to create different enough versions of games, but they had two versions of Smash at retailers for the same holiday season.
I'm not saying they would do this for every game, but guaranteed sellers like Mario Kart, Mario, or Smash could happen.
I haven't seen the manufacturers list, do you have a link? It's possible they just aren't going with Panasonic with the discs, even though they have since the gamecube. Maybe they are going with traditional blu-rays now? Maybe sans video playback capabilities so they don't have to pay a fee? I can't imagine a proprietary format is significantly cheaper
Shikamaru Ninja
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That's inaccurate. It's not Nintendo who can't support two platforms (they just did on the Wii and DS), its the platforms that can't support Nintendo investing a certain amount of money as a publisher. The Wii U and 3DS were just poor management on higher budget and personnel development cycles.
I know slightly worse than Xbone would probably still look great to me, but the idea of Nintendo releasing a platform that's graphically inferior to the competition twice within one gen's time makes me sad. XENOBLADE NX NEEDS THOSE POLYGONS DAMNIT.
Well, if I can play most of the handheld games on console that'd really help make up for things. I've missed out on a lot of great 3DS stuff.
Don't know if this was mentioned but might add to the NX being released in 2016
source: http://www.geekscape.net/geekscape-interviews-fast-racing-neo
source: http://www.geekscape.net/geekscape-interviews-fast-racing-neo
But then you'd run into the same problem. Nintendo splitting their focus (albeit less so with the unified architecture) between two of the same game, resulting in double of the same game on store shelves. Not only does it stretch Nintendo too thin, but it also limits Nintendo's ability to diversify their line-up to grow their audience, something that's holding Nintendo back from getting western third party support back.
And here's the mention of Macronix working on stuff for the NX Platform.
Trevelyan9999
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I am expecting a more effective/efficient CPU for the NX with a similar GPU and memory as PS4, making performance more consistent and overall better. In my opinion the CPU in the PS4 was the biggest sacrifice in cutting it's cost.
web_slinger_62
Member
Have you guys noticed that a lot of these "leaks" from indie developers are from Europe?
Shinen on NX is going to be amazing.
I mean I still haven't bought any of their games, but they sure are pretty.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
They are great at Tech but they need to hire someone to help with game design and gameplay innovation.
Thraktor said aiming for slightly below Xbone would help in making console/handheld compatiblity as straightforward as possibile, and he says a lot of smart sounding tech stuff so I'm leading 60/40 in his favor for now.
Until the next juicy rumor comes in anyways.
Listening to this right now. I will say this is definitely a stream / podcast (and people) that I'll be paying attention to. Looking forward to more.
Thanks for posting the link.
blu
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Just temper your CPU expectations - those desktop CPUs with their high IPC, high clocks and large caches are definitely out of the picture. Sony/ms went with Jaguar not because they wanted to handicap their consoles, but because those were the viable console candidates. Today things are not that much different - we have new architectures (and uarchs) on the (ARM*) console table, and they offer certain benefits to platform holders like nintendo, but the performance envelope has not shifted that much. So yes, nintendo could outperform ps4one CPU-wise without breaking the bank, but they cannot do that by a large margin.
* Zen non-withstanding, due to late timing.
Even if it's a paper
mario
Tbh I'll be happy if we can just get rid of some of the more annoying aspects of PS360/Wii U era graphics. Awful jagged shadows, aliasing everywhere, the occasional ugly PS2 lookin textures, noticeable pop-in. Blah.
Nintendo will step away from WII. So forget all about the games like wiiu sport or other party games. Thats nintendo their purpose with the NX.
Port that shit.
I'm still salty about no proper WarioWare U. Coulda made all kinds of microgames with the gamepad.
Nintendo Cross
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NX
oh my god it's true
it's all true
Did anybody seen this video?
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https://youtu.be/p0a6H_7_A5o
source: http://dqtechnews.com/2015/12/16/rumor-private-nx-concept-reveal-footage-leaked-video/
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https://youtu.be/p0a6H_7_A5o
source: http://dqtechnews.com/2015/12/16/rumor-private-nx-concept-reveal-footage-leaked-video/
Looks pretty ridiculous.Did anybody seen this video?
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https://youtu.be/p0a6H_7_A5o
source: http://dqtechnews.com/2015/12/16/rumor-private-nx-concept-reveal-footage-leaked-video/
wapplew
Member
Did anybody seen this video?
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https://youtu.be/p0a6H_7_A5o
source: http://dqtechnews.com/2015/12/16/rumor-private-nx-concept-reveal-footage-leaked-video/
Why all fake video/picture like to use that slightly off center angle?
Yes it's been around for ages and is seriously not worth reposting. This thread is for genuine info with sources
(believe it or not!)
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Deleted member 465307
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Did anybody seen this video?
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https://youtu.be/p0a6H_7_A5o
source: http://dqtechnews.com/2015/12/16/rumor-private-nx-concept-reveal-footage-leaked-video/
I really enjoy the fact that the website talks about it as if it's a leak while the video title and description both make it clear that it's fake and made by a random person. But perhaps they've been edited since the post was published, so I won't judge them too hard...
I also like that the video was posted in June but wasn't reported on by that site until December.
Okay, I'll stop being critical of the website now.
I hope we get some actual news soon.
Did anybody seen this video?
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https://youtu.be/p0a6H_7_A5o
source: http://dqtechnews.com/2015/12/16/rumor-private-nx-concept-reveal-footage-leaked-video/
That's simply terrible.
Graphics Horse
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I'm not watching that, the thumbnail is enough.
Panajev2001a
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TheMoon
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They wouldn't know this anyway. They're just curious to have it finally be unveiled officially. Even if they do have early SDKs or got a sneak peek.
Even more important quote from that interview
Please do a sequel / spiritual successor
Believe.
Exterminieren
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If this thread is going to keep on jumping at jokes and fan concepts and shouting fake, it's going to get really tedious.
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