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[Sophia]

Keep in mind that *ALL* Wii and Gamecube games capable of 16:9 achieve it using an anamorphic solution. That is, the actual output is still 4:3 in terms of pixel ratio and playing in 16:9 simply results in rectangular pixels thereby reducing image quality.

Right, I'm talking they don't even offer the option for 480p, and a few rare ones don't offer that anamorphic solution.

 

[BocoDragon]

It is true. MadWorld does not support 16:9 (using a fuax-widescreen like how Resident Evil 4 on the Gamecube was) nor progressive scan. There were a few other games that don't support progressive scan either. It was a real bitch for those using a third party VGA cable, as the games just flat out didn't play.

I know, but its literally one notable game. The exception that proves the rule. In general, Wii is a console intended for 16:9 sets.

Edit: Dark is right on that point though.

Any fixed resolution display will make any signal that isn't one for one with its resolution look poorer than it should, including HD CRT displays.

I wish most people could see what a nicely upscaled image looks like on an HDTV. Fixed pixel sharpness doesn't necessarily mean bad.

I actually almost prefer the look of PS2 through my XRGB mini on plasma than I do on a CRT.

 

[lightchris]

CRT is a lot more pleasing to the eye for those consoles imo. I've seen the Wii hooked up to various HDTVs with a component cable in 480p mode; still no match.

 

[RobFox64tm]

That's why Wii games look best on a 16:9 480p capable CRT.

There's no single display that suits all content, I'm afraid.


Keep in mind that *ALL* Wii and Gamecube games capable of 16:9 achieve it using an anamorphic solution. That is, the actual output is still 4:3 in terms of pixel ratio and playing in 16:9 simply results in rectangular pixels thereby reducing image quality.

True, but those aren't exactly common. When I first got the Wii at launch, I was gaming on a 42" Panasonic Plasma EDTV, which means 480 lines, but in progressive scan. I've never seen Wii look better on anything else. I loved it, but with so much jumping to HD, and so little space in may gaming room, I had to "trade up" eventually. I miss that monitor for sure, but I was lucky in that I picked a replacement with decent upscaling and minimal input lag, so I definately feel like I gained more than I lost.

 

[Sophia]

I wish most people could see what a nicely upscaled image looks like on an HDTV. Fixed pixel sharpness doesn't necessarily mean bad.

I actually almost prefer the look of PS2 through my XRGB mini on plasma than I do on a CRT.

One of these days I want to move over. I'm not picky enough about image quality that the difference between an XRGB Mini and a CRT would bother me. Having that bulky 30" CRT is just a pain in the ass.

 

[dark10x]

True, but those aren't exactly common. When I first got the Wii at launch, I was gaming on a 42" Panasonic Plasma EDTV, which means 480 lines, but in progressive scan. I've never seen Wii look better on anything else. I loved it, but with so much jumping to HD, and so little space in may gaming room, I had to "trade up" eventually. I miss that monitor for sure, but I was lucky in that I picked a replacement with decent upscaling and minimal input lag, so I definately feel like I gained more than I lost.

Sure they are. I'm taking 16:9 HD CRT displays. Those were extremely common.

 

[BocoDragon]

One of these days I want to move over. I'm not picky enough about image quality that the difference between an XRGB Mini and a CRT would bother me. Having that bulky 30" CRT is just a pain in the ass.

Yeah I think it's good enough quality that it might convert a CRT purist or two (I was one). And if you aren't picky? You'll be pleased as punch.

 

[li bur]

I'm planning to buy Persona 3 FES on PSN (ps3 version). How does it hold up on a HDTV? Or is it better for me to clean up my ps2 and play it on my old CRT?

 

[M3d10n]

60fps games look soo much better. After using LCDs for too long one can forget how fluid things can move without all that ghosting.

 

[Dereck]

HDTV with component

 

[RedSwirl]

Wait, what? That doesn't make sense.

You're talking about two different TVs, I assume. It sounds like you're saying that you had an LCD/CRT combination unit but no such thing exists.

It was this TV: http://www.crutchfield.com/S-17T18G9AeIP/p_305TXR3079/Samsung-TX-R3079WH.html

Actually I'm not even sure if it was LCD anymore.

 

[Lumyst]

Anybody tried using one of those LCD EDTV's (640x480, 853x480) ? I've got a CRT TV and S-Video for the Wii, and component cable for a 1366x768 cheapo Toshiba LCD, but I'd logically think that a native res LCD would look better. Though the only advantage would be to try the 853x480 for widescreen since the CRT is already 640x480.

 

[satam55]

My current setup has a 14" CRT sitting basically right next to a 46" LCD. I hooked the CRT back up for my older consoles and am pleased with the results. It's obvious that the CRT is just a better fit for consoles N64 and earlier (unless perhaps you own an RGB adapter, but I don't), and current-gen of course is made for modern HDTVs, but it get's a little hazy with 6th-Gen tech like the PS2 or Wii.

On the HDTV End:
+You get 480p, even for Virtual Console games
+Almost all retail Wii games are 16:9
-480p still kinda looks like crap on a big 1080p screen (even 720p games don't look that great for me)
-Added input lag (I looked up my model on a list and its says it adds about 40ms lag)

On the CRT End:
+Image quality looks like how most people probably experienced the games when they came out.
+Less input lag.
+All my Virtual Console games are 4:3.
-You lose the slight improvement of 480p.
-I don't know if retail Wii games adapt for 4:3.

And in my case, no, S-Video isn't an option for the CRT. In fact it's actually a mono TV set.

You should look for a LCD or Plasma 480p EDTV. I'm sure you can find some on Amazon.com Marketplace or eBay.

 

[RedSwirl]

Holy shit. I just played Virtual Console Super Mario Bros. on the CRT and it hit my mind with a nostalgia attack.

The weird part is, I've been playing digital versions of this game on and off regularly for years now. Just yesterday I played my 3DS VC copy, but this is the first time in like 20 years I've played the game on a curved screen. The motion and color saturation looked like they were from a bygone era.

I'm totally running Link to the Past on this tomorrow in preparation for Link Between Worlds. I just don't know if it's gonna be my VC copy or my SNES cart.

Also, Super Mario Sunshine running on the Wii looked just right.

 

[butanebob]

Widescreen CRT would be the best. A lot of them even supported 480p.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Wii and PS2 aren't really the same era, you know...

But that said, I have a late 90's 480p "EDTV" CRT Sony Trinitron that I think is really the sweet spot for just about anything pre HD from Atari 2600 all the way up to the progressive scan systems.