Why Did The PS3 Fail?
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Twilight Princess
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Now tell me that's a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!Dragona Akehi said:
Green Shinobi
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I remember feeling like this last gen.J-Rzez said:
"Why doesn't Capcom port Devil May Cry and Onimusha over to the Gamecube? Sales of REmake shows that the market is there! Do they not like money?
That sucked.
Diatribe1974
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In many eyes it is considered a failure because it was supposed to completely dominate the entire market again the moment it launched. But it didn't and broke a seemingly impossible trend of Sony console domination from the past 10-11 years. Evidently the underestimated what their average consumers were willing to pay for the thing.
Sho_Nuff82
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J-Rzez said:
How soon we forget:
NBA Live 07
Saints Row
Beautiful Katamari
Spiderman: Friend or Foe
As someone said above, they aren't games that anyone cares about...yet. And you won't ever hear about the quiet cancellations.
Where's the PS3 SKUs for
America's Army?
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic?
Splinter Cell 5?
World in Conflict?
Ace Combat 6?
Table Tennis?
If the sales don't improve, sooner or later there is going to be a game in there that someone cares about.
Beer Monkey
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duk said:
It'll sell better, but it'll be competing against a $199 360 Premium and a $129 Wii.
g35twinturbo said:
Sony said so, so it must be true! Here's a hint: systems that are third lose support. Systems that lose support don't last. Doesn't matter how "technologically sound" they are. If you're the loser, you're going to get your next system out at the same time or before everyone else, as to attempt a 'fresh start'.
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Green Shinobi said:
You see, people who have had their favorite console not be in the driver's seat have already been through this drill already. The warnings, the tell tale signs, writings on the wall, etc. They are here, but some people just choose to not acknowledge them.
In Japan, the Wii is almost commanding 70% of the market and the development community is largely concentrating on the Wii/DS there. That was a big source of their games from last generation taken away.
The performance in Europe can't really be answered because we don't get definitive answers about consoles.
In the United States, we won't have a picture really until Thursday once we see what happened with the 360 price drop. However, these visions of ten year plans are quite delusional because if sales don't pick up like yesterday for the PS3, Sony will likely be the first rushing to usher in the next generation of gaming after this.
Jtrizzy said:
Sticking your fingers in your ear and going lalalala doesn't mean the problem go away. Think about all the advantages Sony had with the PS2, now think about how nearly all of them have been taken away this generation. It's really not that hard to compute.
MidgarBlowedUp
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reggie.pic
fixed.
I'm sure I was beaten to this by like page three but, I'm not reading any more of this jokepost thread to find out.
Segata Sanshiro
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If we assume success/failure to be a 1/0 proposition, then in near-certain likelihood the PS3 will have failed in these ways:
- Maintaining Sony's marketshare of the home console market
- Coming even close to the absolute numbers of its grandpappy and pappy
- Having a library of equal breadth and depth the PS1 and PS2 enjoyed
In near-certain likelihood the PS3 will have succeeded in these ways:
- Trojan horse to push Bluray into being the dominant HD video format
- Having a good enough library to justify the cost and entertain owners of the system
I think from Sony's perspective, the PS3 thus far is a 50/50. Ideally I'm certain they wanted to nab the HD video market whilst maintaining a majority marketshare. In contrast, the worst case scenario would have been losing their gaming marketshare and failing to solidify Bluray as the HD format of choice. Things could have been worse and they could have been better.
- Maintaining Sony's marketshare of the home console market
- Coming even close to the absolute numbers of its grandpappy and pappy
- Having a library of equal breadth and depth the PS1 and PS2 enjoyed
In near-certain likelihood the PS3 will have succeeded in these ways:
- Trojan horse to push Bluray into being the dominant HD video format
- Having a good enough library to justify the cost and entertain owners of the system
I think from Sony's perspective, the PS3 thus far is a 50/50. Ideally I'm certain they wanted to nab the HD video market whilst maintaining a majority marketshare. In contrast, the worst case scenario would have been losing their gaming marketshare and failing to solidify Bluray as the HD format of choice. Things could have been worse and they could have been better.
PS3 has only been out a year..not even and people have already come to the conclusion that its dead!? =/
yes its starving for some games atm but its still early.
that being said..
Killzone 2, GT5, mgs4 , resistance 2, uncharted and the other big titles really need to be AAA titles for the ps3 to start sticking with 360.
ps3 cant really afford any more flops from now on...especially when halo 3 is just around the corner.
i have faith tho .
yes its starving for some games atm but its still early.
that being said..
Killzone 2, GT5, mgs4 , resistance 2, uncharted and the other big titles really need to be AAA titles for the ps3 to start sticking with 360.
ps3 cant really afford any more flops from now on...especially when halo 3 is just around the corner.
i have faith tho .
Segata Sanshiro
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I think a Bluray victory in the HD market is a certainty. As to whether it was worth torching their games business, well, time will tell. The HD market has a lot of growing to do before that cost/benefit ratio looks good.Tobor said:
Pureauthor
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Segata Sanshiro said:
Big fish in a two-inch deep puddle. I believe (read: hope) that DVDs remain the format of choice for the masses.
Segata Sanshiro
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I am not entirely disinclined to not disagree with you.Pureauthor said:
Green Shinobi
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I really hope so.TEH-CJ said:
I bought a PS3 this early because of that early 9/10 that Lair got and that 10/10 that Heavenly Sword got. And now they're just average games?
I'd get Warhawk, but I don't see the point of getting into a multiplayer-only game when Halo 3 is weeks away.
Segata Sanshiro
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You could fill one with any given system wars thread around here.Tobor said:
Pureauthor
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Segata Sanshiro said:
They'd have to pay the consumers to get it into consumer's hands.
Segata Sanshiro
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Makes sense. I'm not actually human. I'm just an AI based on Markov chains.Tobor said:
60_gig_PS3
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underestimating the competition and arrogance
was Sony's downfall.
It didn't have to be this way.
was Sony's downfall.
It didn't have to be this way.
Segata Sanshiro
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That is the best fucking haiku I've ever read.60_gig_PS3 said:
Tobor said:
That's true, but still this thread will be filled with the same ol' arguments that people have been regurgitating for the last 2 years. We're not getting anywhere with this, best to just sit back and let everything pan out. I think Sony is in a terrible position this gen, I've made various posts explaining my views on their strategy...I don't think it's healthy for this board to constantly beat this topic to death, it just hardens gamers hearts and turns more fans into fanboys.
Beer Monkey
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ssoass said:
120 million PS2s out there. 3.6 million copies of MGS3: Snake Eater.
Do the math.
I can understand people not wanting to buy expensive consoles. After all, people are cheap and only buy on " sales " and after price cuts.
What I can't understand, really can't, is how in the fucking world did sony allow 3rd parties to bail out and not support the PS3. Games are being delayed left and right, some of them might actually get canned, 3rd party exculsives are basically non-existent, and when they arrive, they'll more than likely appear on 360 ( Haze and Unreal Tournament ).
I think this is the worst that could have happened to sony because even if the price gets cut, if the games aren't there people won't want the system, exactly like what happened with the gamecube and boy, did gamecube had amazing software.
without decent quantity/quality of games, PS3 will never achieve "success" status.
you guys go check the PS3 section of your local store, is the most pitiful and sad thing to happen to a videogame console. Barely a complete shelf and full of "meh" titles. At least that's how mine looks.
What I can't understand, really can't, is how in the fucking world did sony allow 3rd parties to bail out and not support the PS3. Games are being delayed left and right, some of them might actually get canned, 3rd party exculsives are basically non-existent, and when they arrive, they'll more than likely appear on 360 ( Haze and Unreal Tournament ).
I think this is the worst that could have happened to sony because even if the price gets cut, if the games aren't there people won't want the system, exactly like what happened with the gamecube and boy, did gamecube had amazing software.
without decent quantity/quality of games, PS3 will never achieve "success" status.
you guys go check the PS3 section of your local store, is the most pitiful and sad thing to happen to a videogame console. Barely a complete shelf and full of "meh" titles. At least that's how mine looks.
MercuryLS said:
I like this.
Lately i've been curious if it's always been like this. Cuz it's like really bad. So bad I hear the same thoughts and even worse phrases (kiddie games, shoving down our throats, its got no games, I don't trust them, American born, bla bla bla bla bla) word for word in real life.
Segata Sanshiro
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: The Playstation 3 is going to be in marketing textbooks in the paragraph after New Coke. If a book appeals to the business-heads, it'll find a home.Diablos said: