Why Straight Men Have Sex With Each Other

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Dennis said:
Bullshit.

In all of those environments there are of course gay men. And they engage in sex with each other. That does not mean they are straight men having gay sex. It means they are men pretending to be straight while they are either gay or bisexual.

I am straight. Never have I ever been even close to wanting to have sex with another man.
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You sure you ain't a lil gay dennis?

unholyrevenger72 said:
If there is a sum of money large enough to coax you into into having sex with Hemsworth then you're Bi. It's a matter of what you're willing to do.

Bi guys who label themselves Straight do because to them having the Bi label would reduce their social status among their friends and publicly.
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Uh no lol. That just means I want some money and am willing to do something I don't want to do in order to have that money.
 
Male Bi-stigma is real - It's like you're too gay for women and not committed enough for men.

Or maybe I need to move to a bigger city.
 
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Hottest thing out there

Brojobs et al

unholyrevenger72 said:
Bi guys who label themselves Straight do because to them having the Bi label would reduce their social status among their friends and publicly.
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Yup

When asked I am honest and say I am attracted to both genders, but I don't feel like posting it to Facebook because of the prejudices towards bi men.
 
Of course both men and women experiment. For some people it's a part of discovering yourself and "that one time" you messed around with your friend, whether you're male or female, doesn't mean you're gay.

But if you desire regular encounters you're probably gay.
 
Syriel said:
It's like you two are ignoring the fact that bisexuality exists.

There is no double-standard. If a guy likes both men and women, he's bi. If a girl likes both women and men, she's bi.

It's like the author is ignoring the fact that yes, sexuality is a scale, but no, not everyone slides along it freely.
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Please don't put ideas in my mouth, I didn't imply that.

And for the record, I don't believe getting that bussy beat out the frame makes a person Bi, either. To me, bisexual implies a near constant state of attraction to both sexes. However, I think that it's completely possible that someone who views themselves as exclusively attracted to women physically and emotionally can nevertheless have a physical moment with another male.
 
animlboogy said:
So the only "straight" people are people so completely obsessed with their identity as straight that'd they'd walk away from a cool million to bone a dude?
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Yes. Only the men who are the most insecure about "doing anything gay" shall be called straight. That's why everyone's exclaiming "NOT ME!" to the title; they can't let their guard down for a second.
 
Some people are hungry animal going off of primal instincts. Its easier to get your package sucked off of Craigslist than it is pining for some women and I assume some people just get tired of the hunt and just want to get off.

Just because you're straight doesn't mean you won't get hard if some other man touches your penis or tries to give you head. Your brain won't really know much of a difference. It doesn't make you homosexual as there is no emotional attraction at all, you just want to get off and its the easiest way to do it.

It's kind of pathetic to be honest and shows how someone lacks self discipline, focus or determination to get sex from someone you are attracted to rather than using some mouth or any hole to get off. Calling these people homosexuals is insulting to homosexuals because at least there's an element of attraction there, same goes for bi-sexual people or those that are simply bi-curious. I know someone who was in a long dry spell of 8 years that went for it and regrets it to this day. Even went for counseling with his wife because it bothered him for a long time.

Interesting study though, and honestly needs more attention and research. Way too many thirsty people out there throwing their lives away by going from one hole to another dick because they can't find a woman or even accept that they are actually gay.

Best wishes.
 
animlboogy said:
So the only "straight" people are people so completely obsessed with their identity as straight that'd they'd walk away from a cool million to bone a dude?
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they don't need to be obsessed with their identity. If they are truly straight they couldn't even become aroused by the idea of a cool million for a bro-job
 
blame space said:
Who is the straightest member of NeoGAF.com
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Mine is at like a 65 degree angle so it ain't me.

unholyrevenger72 said:
they don't need to be obsessed with their identity. If they are truly straight they couldn't even become aroused by the idea of a cool million for a bro-job
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1. Who the fuck is getting aroused by the idea of money.
2. Physical response ain't attraction.
3. If it's on the table, yes I would suck off Hemsworth for as little as $200.
 
It's all semantic gamesmanship.

I identify as straight and have honestly never wanted to fuck another man or even suck dick, toss salad, make out or play with nipples. But I do appreciate male beauty and deeply personal verbal intimacy. To me that's still sexual even if it's not physical. But what I get from male intimacy isn't the same as what I get from female intimacy, it's all different.

It about the terms more than anything. Most of the time people can't think beyond the simple (usually binary) categories they've been handed.
 
Yes, I just don't buy it.

Guys who are willing to engage in gay sex, but want to refer to themselves as straight seem a bit strange (I've met guys like this). Like they're afraid to be called gay or bi. As if being that would make them less a man.
 
This reminds of the Down Low phenomenon that was more a depiction of closeted African American male bisexual behavior.
 
That second article does a good job of identifying the core element here. "Straight," "gay," and "bi" aren't platonic sexual orientations that come down from the heavens fully-formed; they're socially constructed, and largely unique to our current time and place in history. There are many cultures where sex between same-sex partners generally took place inside some kind of societal third-gender arrangement, or where it was typically seen as belonging in a certain phase of life, or where it was the expected way to have sex outside marriage so as not to produce bastards. Lots of people that we'd view as "straight" in our society participated in all of those cultural patterns.

When we talk about "gay" or "straight," we take the assumption that they describe a preference of attraction that is absolute, but it's rarely that simple in reality. Some men only want a relationship with a woman but find other men attractive for no-strings sex. Some only want women as their primary partner but want to participate in MMF threesomes. Some might be straight except for one specific man they're into out of whatever random circumstantial chance. Some might be dating a woman who eventually transitions to being a trans man. Some aren't interested in men specifically at all, but are willing to sleep with them because they're the only people situationally available (all-boys schools, military, prison) or just more accessible in general due to a heavily gender-segregated society. None of those really make sense to categorize as "gay" since they're all groups who are interested in women sexually to some degree, lumping them all in as "bi" elides some pretty significant differences between them, and in many cases there'll be a point in their lives where they'll never seek out or have sex with a man again afterwards. That's what drives the sociological idea of accepting a self-identification of "straight" despite the awkwardness.

dream said:
I'm in disbelief about the notion that one cannot be settled in one's heterosexuality seems very problematic to me. The author calls on the reader to problematize their sexual orientation, effectively saying, "if you think you're straight, suck a cock. If you don't like it, suck another cock. Suck cocks until you like doing it."
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That's not what it's saying at all. The point is that right now, any gay person in our society has always had to actively discover and reaffirm their own sexual identity, but someone can be straight without even ever considering it. I would agree that there are plenty of men who are straight, who might not ever want to act sexually with any other man, who would still benefit significantly from examining their own sexuality and trying to understand as thoroughly as possible what they're attracted to and how it intersects with their identity.
 
I'm fairly sure multiple species of animal demonstrate situational homosexual behaviour, and I don't think it makes sense to identify those participating animals as 'gay'.

So I could understand a person who would otherwise identify as straight engaging in homosexual sex due to a unique environment, like the example of a prison. It makes logical sense, at least to me; this isn't the kindest analogy, but it's almost like classifying someone who decides to consume the meat of another human being in a desperate attempt for survival as a cannibal. Under such stress I can see the restrictions, that are ultimately social, dissipating.

All in all I think rigid descriptions of sexual orientation are to blame.
 
I'm a straight dude, but oddly enough thinking about having someone's dick in my mouth doesn't really bother me. However, having my leg hair touch another dude's leg hair just creeps me out for some reason.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
Yes, I just don't buy it.

Guys who are willing to engage in gay sex, but want to refer to themselves as straight seem a bit strange (I've met guys like this). Like they're afraid to be called gay or bi. As if being that would make them less a man.
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One of my good friends growing up is straight and we used to mess around all the time. Anal sex even. He wasn't afraid to come out, or be called bi or gay, he was just straight and really enjoyed the sex we had. Nothing more.

Of course, when I was a teenager, I didn't understand this as clearly and felt that he should just come out. But as I grew up and our sexual relationship continued, I realized...

Some straight guys don't mind fooling around with other guys. That's the end of it. Sexuality isn't black and white. Get over it.
 
(straight) males sometimes have sex with each other to reinforce their friendship, leadership or social hierarchy, at least thats what was said on another thread, and this study.Im not really knowledgeable on these urban social traditions.
 
Puppet Shadow said:
I'm a straight dude, but oddly enough thinking about having someone's dick in my mouth doesn't really bother me. However, having my leg hair touch another dude's leg hair just creeps me out for some reason.
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Same, I'd be more comfortable having sex with a guy than kissing.
 
The author has some interesting ideas about the prevalence of same-sex sexual activity and the weight it's given by straight-identifying men versus straight-identifying women. She also displays a sort of indifferent and somewhat dismissive attitude toward science that I find troubling, going as far as to challenge the biological basis of sexuality through a political lens. That's problematic.

If you want to speculate about the objective causes of human behaviors and get really granular about their psychological and social effects without basing your conclusions on solid data, good luck.
 
charlequin said:
That second article does a good job of identifying the core element here. "Straight," "gay," and "bi" aren't platonic sexual orientations that come down from the heavens fully-formed; they're socially constructed, and largely unique to our current time and place in history. There are many cultures where sex between same-sex partners generally took place inside some kind of societal third-gender arrangement, or where it was typically seen as belonging in a certain phase of life, or where it was the expected way to have sex outside marriage so as not to produce bastards. Lots of people that we'd view as "straight" in our society participated in all of those cultural patterns.
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I've always found this fascinating. When you look at ancient Greece for example, or today in remote isolated Afghan communities, and you see this manifesting. In these two cases it also seems to correlate with a culture that basically villifies women.
 
I love how tolerant, open to many perspectives and ideas LIBERAL GAF cannot seem to wrap their collective minds around the concept that men who identify as straight could potentially have sex with another man and still identify as straight. LOVE IT.

I also love how those same folk probably hold the idea that yes, women can lez out and still be considered straight. Hypocrisy much? I think so.

I hope the people who are challenged by this really think about it. Because it is a thing, and it is something that needs to be addressed and not just written off as BS or someone experimenting.

Also your anecdotal evidence about your bros not doing it is foolish. In this modern day and age people still hold their thoughts and actions to themselves. You think your bros are going to tell you about that one time at band camp? Hahaha.
 
maybe

MAYBE

you can have a case where your hormones are just fucking coming out of your ears and you wanna blow a load into something, so long as you are the one poking and not the one being poked.

but nah brah, i don't see how you handle a dick and say you are 100% straight.
 
charlequin said:
That second article does a good job of identifying the core element here. "Straight," "gay," and "bi" aren't platonic sexual orientations that come down from the heavens fully-formed; they're socially constructed, and largely unique to our current time and place in history. There are many cultures where sex between same-sex partners generally took place inside some kind of societal third-gender arrangement, or where it was typically seen as belonging in a certain phase of life, or where it was the expected way to have sex outside marriage so as not to produce bastards. Lots of people that we'd view as "straight" in our society participated in all of those cultural patterns.

When we talk about "gay" or "straight," we take the assumption that they describe a preference of attraction that is absolute, but it's rarely that simple in reality. Some men only want a relationship with a woman but find other men attractive for no-strings sex. Some only want women as their primary partner but want to participate in MMF threesomes. Some might be straight except for one specific man they're into out of whatever random circumstantial chance. Some might be dating a woman who eventually transitions to being a trans man. Some aren't interested in men specifically at all, but are willing to sleep with them because they're the only people situationally available (all-boys schools, military, prison) or just more accessible in general due to a heavily gender-segregated society. None of those really make sense to categorize as "gay" since they're all groups who are interested in women sexually to some degree, lumping them all in as "bi" elides some pretty significant differences between them, and in many cases there'll be a point in their lives where they'll never seek out or have sex with a man again afterwards. That's what drives the sociological idea of accepting a self-identification of "straight" despite the awkwardness.



That's not what it's saying at all. The point is that right now, any gay person in our society has always had to actively discover and reaffirm their own sexual identity, but someone can be straight without even ever considering it. I would agree that there are plenty of men who are straight, who might not ever want to act sexually with any other man, who would still benefit significantly from examining their own sexuality and trying to understand as thoroughly as possible what they're attracted to and how it intersects with their identity.
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Thank you for speaking the truth.

Nobody can label you gay or straight based on a specific situation. It's an identity you form for yourself and I agree with you that it can be more complicated than what people think.
 
KibblesBits said:
I love how tolerant, open to many perspectives and ideas LIBERAL GAF cannot seem to wrap their collective minds around the concept that men who identify as straight could potentially have sex with another man and still identify as straight. LOVE IT.

I also love how those same folk probably hold the idea that yes, women can lez out and still be considered straight. Hypocrisy much? I think so.

I hope the people who are challenged by this really think about it. Because it is a thing, and it is something that needs to be addressed and not just written off as BS or someone experimenting.

Also your anecdotal evidence about your bros not doing it is foolish. In this modern day and age people still hold their thoughts and actions to themselves. You think your bros are going to tell you about that one time at band camp? Hahaha.
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RockTurtle said:
maybe

MAYBE

you can have a case where your hormones are just fucking coming out of your ears and you wanna blow a load into something, so long as you are the one poking and not the one being poked.

but nah brah, i don't see how you handle a dick and say you are 100% straight.
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Agree so much Kibble. Responses like this show just that kind of bullshit.
 
Well, men can't get pregnant so....also less emotional complications as men tend to be pretty detached about sex.

Which explains why this married personal trainer keeps hitting on me. Still, not touching him with a ten foot pole as hot as he is. The karma would be bad.

Kurdel said:
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I knew it. Fred is one perverted kinky fucker.
 
kitchenmotors said:
One of my good friends growing up is straight and we used to mess around all the time. Anal sex even. He wasn't afraid to come out, or be called bi or gay, he was just straight and really enjoyed the sex we had. Nothing more.

Of course, when I was a teenager, I didn't understand this as clearly and felt that he should just come out. But as I grew up and our sexual relationship continued, I realized...

Some straight guys don't mind fooling around with other guys. That's the end of it. Sexuality isn't black and white. Get over it.
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It doesn't really bother me. I'm just speaking from personal experience as you (referring to those who make a point that they're straight). I simply believe that if they don't mind fooling around with other guys, they have bi tendencies.

However, if it's just an experimenting thing, I believe they can be straight.
 
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