You don't see gay people complaining about being uncomfortable watching heterosexual behavior. A straight male has grown up being a male, having a penis, they are use to the male body; yet some straight males are uncomfortable seeing something they themselves are(a male) kissing another of which they themselves are(another male)? Why? Maybe, a straight male doesn't get aroused or turned on by same-sex PDA, but having a "neutral" response, would make more sense. A "neutral" response is generally the response that gays have to opposite-sex PDA, so why can't straights have a "neutral" response to same-sex PDA? You have to wonder, if someone who claims that same-sex PDA is digusting, if the act really is disgusting or if they just tell themselves that it is disgusting? I would think a gay male would be more turned off by women's "parts", than a straight male would be at other male's parts.
Why Straight Men Have Sex With Each Other
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bengraven
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Makes my theory that cowboys ritually had sex or foreplay with each other on the lonely trails make more sense.
freenudemacusers
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great, now I can't just enjoy sucking a random dick without everyone assuming I'm straight.
Again, it's a tough call. Dykes might have sex with gay, bi or straight men, and vice versa for the opposite sex. They all identify as very different things. I would suggest "bi", but it's hard to place a label on someone who is passionate about their beliefs.
You realistically do the best you can to identify yourself and your active pleasures.
You realistically do the best you can to identify yourself and your active pleasures.
Spilling the tea, male heterosexuality is so rigid, just the whole concept of masculinity in and of itself is, this is by far the most prevalent source of homophobia in men.
Also, people are having issue divorcing the concept of sexual attraction with the act of sex, is it too much of a stretch to assume that people can have sex with the same gender and still not be attracted to that gender?
shadyspace
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Ennis in Brokeback Mountain was meant to be straight.
M1ch04c4n0
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Well, that vindicates what I told my sister a few year back. She was reading one of those silly girl magazine "surveys" titled "Is your boyfriend metrosexual", and as she was reading, we agree our brother was in fact, metrosexual.
Then she started reading the opposite of metrosexual, and at the end, I just plainly said, "Sis, your are describing me".
I can fully asses I have no desire to have intimate contact with another male, and there is not enough money I can be offer to accept having any kind of sexual contact with other male, handsome, gorgeous or otherwise. Unless you find some sort of sexual expression on beating (not pun, please) another human in organized and honorable combat.
In Kindsey's scale, I must be an 8.
Then she started reading the opposite of metrosexual, and at the end, I just plainly said, "Sis, your are describing me".
I can fully asses I have no desire to have intimate contact with another male, and there is not enough money I can be offer to accept having any kind of sexual contact with other male, handsome, gorgeous or otherwise. Unless you find some sort of sexual expression on beating (not pun, please) another human in organized and honorable combat.
In Kindsey's scale, I must be an 8.
Charles Foster Kane
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Brokeback Mountain wasn't a gay cowboy movie after all.
hodayathink
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There's multiple male performers (and producers) out there that blog, some more interesting than the others.
Even setting aside the idea of spectrums and fluidity (rather than a few absolutes) in sexual attraction, it doesn't seem totally unreasonable that people could enjoy sex acts purely for the physical gratification and social intimacy, without it necessarily involving much of an attraction to the physical form of the other individual(s) involved. Worrying about how this squares with existing, perhaps too limited, labels doesn't seem very important.
It was a good social experiment though. Out of all the actual people I've known with criticism, they said it was hateful towards gays because of Jake Gyllenhaal's character. In reality, it was observant towards two dominant entries in the homosexual community.
John Kowalski
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So many twisted panties itt.
Charles Foster Kane
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Man, this thread is making me feel conservative.
lemmykoopa
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I don't understand how a man can be straight yet be able to maintain an erection while having sex with a man. If the erection stays it definitely means your BI no? I know I tried to watch gay porn a while ago and it did nothing for me, I felt uneasy watching it and what I was seeing came across as gross (no i have nothing against gays), i know if I would have tried jacking off to the scene it wouldn't have worked. That's why i don't think you can be 100% straight yet be able to have sex with a man, that means you're at least bi, imo.
charlequin
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Well, I mean, one, because straights and gays both have (on average) incredibly negative views of bisexuals, but two, because people generally interpret bisexual as "close to equally interested in both genders" which often isn't accurate either.
There's no real way to know since there's such intense social pressure to claim 100% (on either side.)
She's not opining about to what degree same-sex attraction is biologically derived, she's saying that using "born this way" as a justification for gay identity is a conservative, non-queer-positive position because it's based on the idea that gay sex and relationships would be loathsome if there were any way for people to make a choice about them. This isn't even a controversial position -- I'd say it's pretty mainstream within fields of gender and sexuality studies.
And everyone ever an autosexual.
What's the point in identifying as straight if your behavior isn't going to be straight? I wish people could just be honest about themselves.
I identify as bisexual even though I mostly prefer women. I'm probably perceived as straight by most people around me, but it's not worth my time to correct them, and there's nothing wrong with that either.
So? Straight and gay are inherently absolute. Bi is inherently a mixture. One is more accurate than the other.
I identify as bisexual even though I mostly prefer women. I'm probably perceived as straight by most people around me, but it's not worth my time to correct them, and there's nothing wrong with that either.
So? Straight and gay are inherently absolute. Bi is inherently a mixture. One is more accurate than the other.
Because it's not a regular choice.
It's like getting a McChicken at McDonalds every day of the year, but you get a McDouble a couple times. You identify as a McChicken hound, but deep down, you can take the McDouble deep.
Monocle
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Put that way, I can see the sense in that position.
kitchenmotors
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Stop trying to label it. And while it might not make sense for you, everyone is different and people have different reactions and urges to sexuality.
I can't think of anything more depressing than that, in the context of porn. Take a few pills beforehand and get down with someone you have absolutely no interest in. It's like a 9 to 5, in someone's ass. Or with someone in your ass. Good lord.
Haha this. Didn't know how to respond but your post explain my feelings exactly.
RatskyWatsky
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That's exactly what professional porn is.
SolicitorPirate
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How is that different from any other kind of porn?
Monocle
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Some of those guys probably aren't absolute die-hard straight dudes who take zero pleasure in same-sex shenanigans. So... I guess that's good.
But isn't it the case that just about all porn actors have to put up with matches they wouldn't pick in their personal lives?
ISWThunder
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As a straight guy that's hard to understand. I've been in close quarters with plenty of guys, like football locker rooms and rugby trips, and never once has it been a grey area. I love girls and have zero sexual attraction to men. I can understand being gay or even bi, but being straight and occasionally being with a dude is an odd idea.
I'm the exact opposite. I've never felt weird about touching or kissing a guy, but I don't find male bodies exciting and dicks do absolutely nothing for me.
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John Kowalski
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Having a dick up yer butt is nice regardless of whether you're gay or not. You're gonna cum and you're gonna like it.
I mean if it's consensual. If it's not you should call the cops.
False, stop co-opting the straight man for you're bi agenda. Hmmph.
I can't imagine the novelty of being a professional porn star lasts that long regardless of what sex you're doing it with.
Monocle
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Yeah, most likely.
JinjoUnchained
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I've heard there's this thing...where people's tastes change over time such that things you do at an earlier age don't define you for your whole in a convenient two/three word label...or even that sometimes people impulsively want to do things independent of their socially prescribed "orientation"...don't "" me on that though.
Interesting post. I'd say I have a neutral (sexual) response to male nakedness and male homosexual sex. Never bothered me growing up. As this thread has suggested I've challenged myself with "what might that be like", can't say I find the thought appealing. There was a thread with a Kinsey test.
To quote myself:
Maybe I'm not the target of this thread, but I do find it somewhat annoying that being comfortable in my heterosexuality can be a problem, as if I'm not enlightened to a more progressive way of life.
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Mr. Pointy
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Kinsey scale.
Fixes every damn problem.
Fixes every damn problem.
Charles Foster Kane
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That's why amateur is the best.
Captain Europe
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The sooner we get rid of these labels, the better we'll be off for it. I believe people in the future will deal with sexuality in a more intelligent way.
industrian
will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
Did he thank you for the napkins and hospitality?
Is the relationship with guys a turn-off, or is it disinterest? Some people have the former, but if you have the latter, just getting off because sex is fun works for them. (And it's far easier to find a dude on short notice.)
charlequin
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The point of this distinction is that people are identifying as straight because their overall behavior is "straight" -- they're primarily interested in women, they are invested in having a heterosexual relationship for family formation, they don't have any interest in men outside specific boundaries or any desire to participate in queer culture, etc.
None of those things are "inherently" anything. They're ideas that people made up.
You can certainly decide that the idea of "straight" refers only to people who are 100% absolute, who have never in any way done or even thought about something that hints at same-sex attraction, but then you have a world with a tiny number of "straight" and "gay" people who pass this purity test and a uselessly huge quantity of "bi" people who have almost nothing in common.
That's what porn is!
Hah, good points. To further clarify interest extends to any sort of attraction but I guess the thought of a 100% straight man doing gay porn (if that unicorn even exists) is more than a little ridiculous.
This had me rolling. Reads like a threat.
Charles Foster Kane
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I would probably make out with Emily Blunt though.
She wouldn't make out with me though.
She wouldn't make out with me though.
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