Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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There is also a video interview in the provided link above, where they talk about Aliens: Colonial Marines.

I just can't wait to play this game. The ability to have the motion tracker on the controller screen could be awesome if done right.
 
Wat?!?!?
It's not 10000x more powerful than PS360?
Preorder canceled!
If it can't run that Epic Samaritan demo at 1080p60 on 8 TVs at once I'm not buying!
*exaggerated GAF response that sadly won't be far off from what some posters actually think.



But seriously, a "half-gen" leap is fine, better than a $600 system that still loses money or is poorly designed and breaks 8 times.
 
I'm not at all fussed if it turns out that it's a 'stop-gap' compared to the other two companies' next machines because I'm not judging it on the jump from PS360 --> Wii-U, but on the gap from Wii --> Wii-U.
 
If he doesn't even know the final specs of the WiiU yet, how does he know what the final specs of the PS4/Nextbox are going to be???
 
Goodlife said:
If he doesn't even know the final specs of the WiiU yet, how does he know what the final specs of the PS4/Nextbox are going to be???
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he's probably just guessing. It shows at the very least that the Wii U is considerably more powerful than the current gen, enough so that some things that weren't be possible graphically on the hd-twins will be possible on the Wii U.

At the same time though, it's clearly not powerful enough to blow away the current competition or present the kind of jump people have come to expect between generations.

Whether MS and Sony will do a typical jump between consoles or be more conservative this next round is definitely up in the air though.
 
you're going to see textures at a resolution that you haven't seen on [the current] generation
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it's gotta be the custom resolution on the controller they are talking about.

If we cannot sell as well as we expect to during the holiday sales season, it's going to be a grave concern for us. But right now, I think it's premature to say, in terms of the current sales, what the one-year sales (result) will be like.
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if they manage to do what they did before and sale even as much as 360, I will frame Iwata's and Reggie's picture up my wall.
 
capability of the Wii, we put more attention and focus on the ability to create new experiences rather than the quality of the graphics. For popular genres in

The Western world such as the shooter games, the picture quality is actually very important. And as a result, we have not been able to provide hardcore video game players with the option they really want with the Wii. That sort of picture-processing issue is going to be solved this time around.
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What the hell does that mean? AA?
 
walking fiend said:
someone had to say that *shrugs*
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Well, yeah, but this thread is more friendly than other threads would be because the title doesn't give any info for the trolls to work from. If that were posted as a thread, however, then yes, that's what we'd see.

Anyway, he's just be talking about RAM. That's probably the only real improvement.
 
guek said:
he's probably just guessing. It shows at the very least that the Wii U is considerably more powerful than the current gen, enough so that some things that weren't be possible graphically on the hd-twins will be possible on the Wii U.

At the same time though, it's clearly not powerful enough to blow away the current competition or present the kind of jump people have come to expect between generations.

Whether MS and Sony will do a typical jump between consoles or be more conservative this next round is definitely up in the air though.
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This. Some devs tend to be pretty matter-of-fact when it comes to making assumptions about the other two's next consoles. If Wii U is strong enough to blur the lines, there will be some disappointed people looking for every minute detail to show that the other two are "clearly" more powerful.
 
All this endless splitting hairs over metrics...

Will it have Nintendo developed games? Because if Reggie has checked that box then I am in day one as usual. Nothing else matters, not to me anyway.
 
hmmm...
“When Nintendo would like to ask users to try a specific new game, we should deliver it to their Nintendo 3DS, and possibly Wii U, with their prior consent and recommend that they just try it and, if they like it, they can pay for it. In this way, we need to introduce users to unknown products. Consumers are likely to be convinced to pay about 5,000 yen for a well-established franchise product, but not all the people are willing to pay a certain amount of money for an innovative but unknown product. Now is the time to prepare for these situations.” - Satoru Iwata
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Has the quote from the aliens: colonial marines guy been posted yet? His quote is about the wii u being a stop-gap console between this generation and the next. He talks about higher rez textures and a few other things. I saw the quote on a banned nintendo-centric site. I'd link the original source but I'm on my phone. The word choice was interesting, "stop gap" and all the potential implications of that kind of harware positioning. And this is coming from someone whose actively developing with the hardware. Anyways can someone link and post the news?

Edit: nevermind.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
That's kind of a hilarious backhanded compliment.

I mean, it's probably true, but jeez.
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I think that he simply misused the term "stop-gap" and doesn't actually mean that it'll be short-lived.
 
TunaLover said:
But he mentions current gen, PS360 included.
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I meant in comparison to current gen. I only used those two games as they were easy to visualise the difference in textures between them.
 
Do you guys think the name is final? In the past Nintendo changed the Ultra64 to Nintendo 64, so they have done it before.

The more I hear WiiU the more I dislike it. I looks bad, it sounds weird (Weee UU Weee UU here comes the police) and it's confusing. Like the 3DS and DS it differs too little from the Wii. And for anyone that bought a Wii and got buyers remorse, an 'iteration' of the Wii wont work in Nintendo's favour. Wii 2 would even been better, because it at least gives a clear message that it's a new console. Imagine if Apple called the Ipad2, the IpadU. People would have thought it was a different type or model, instead of a follow up.
 
Sadly, yes. I think Wii U is final.
They REALLY should have dropped the Wii name all together. It just holds a bad stigma with both casual and core gamers.
Just call it the Nintendo. It's simple, retro, and EVERYONE knows what it is.
 
Vinci said:
Iwata has discovered game demos? Wow. That's... well... progress.
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I guess the difference here is that these demos would be downloaded to the system automatically. People wouldn't have to go out of their way to get them, they would just appear on the Wii U/3DS, ready to play. It probably would help get a lot of exposure to otherwise unknown titles.
 
I still say that they should just do Push trailers for upcoming games, instead of full demos.
Each week, download a montage of game footage to the system. That would be great marketing.
 
AceBandage said:
I still say that they should just do Push trailers for upcoming games, instead of full demos.
Each week, download a montage of game footage to the system. That would be great marketing.
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how would that be better?
 
guek said:
how would that be better?
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Covers a wider gambit of games than single demos.
They aren't going to push a dozen demos to a system all at once.
They can push a single video that shows off a dozen games easily, though.
 
I've never understood why companies yet haven't let people download demos of games shown AT E3. I mean, the demos are right there for the media to play, what better way to get the word out about an upcoming release than just releasing it to people DIRECTLY? Plus so many companies get butthurt and backlash at the media over reviews and so on, and even downscaled E3 in the past, I don't understand why they don't just go straight to the people with those demos.
 
TheNatural said:
I've never understood why companies yet haven't let people download demos of games shown AT E3. I mean, the demos are right there for the media to play, what better way to get the word out about an upcoming release than just releasing it to people DIRECTLY? Plus so many companies get butthurt and backlash at the media over reviews and so on, and even downscaled E3 in the past, I don't understand why they don't just go straight to the people with those demos.
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E3 demos are usually glitchy messes that are just thrown together for journalists. Giving them to gamers is basically a good way to stop sales dead in its tracks.
 
AceBandage said:
Covers a wider gambit of games than single demos.
They aren't going to push a dozen demos to a system all at once.
They can push a single video that shows off a dozen games easily, though.
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Well that all depends. A dozen is quite a lot, but 3-4 featured demos once a week or twice a month would be pretty brilliant. I don't think even the 360 gets a dozen high profile games a month.

To make it effective, they're going to need to push it hard though. The second you boot up the wii U for the first time, it HAS to ask you if you want to set up an internet connection. The second you do, it HAS to ask if you want to enable automatic demo downloads. Then it HAS to notify you upon boot up to the dashboard that demos have downloaded. No flashing icon shit. It'd actually be excellent marketing.

I'm sure they'll continue their nintendo week show that features upcoming and releasing products as well. I think people will be much more enticed though with an offer to play a demo rather than watch a video upon start up.
 
guek said:
Well that all depends. A dozen is quite a lot, but 3-4 featured demos once a week or twice a month would be pretty brilliant. I don't think even the 360 gets a dozen high profile games a month.

To make it effective, they're going to need to push it hard though. The second you boot up the wii U for the first time, it HAS to ask you if you want to set up an internet connection. The second you do, it HAS to ask if you want to enable automatic demo downloads. Then it HAS to notify you upon boot up to the dashboard that demos have downloaded. No flashing icon shit. It'd actually be excellent marketing.

I'm sure they'll continue their nintendo week show that features upcoming and releasing products as well. I think people will be much more enticed though with an offer to play a demo rather than watch a video upon start up.
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Well, the 3DS already has it so that it automatically pops up that new software was downloaded and takes you right to it.
I just don't think that forcing multiple demos is a good idea, simply because I don't think people will play them all after a while.
They can do demos for certain games that need them (S&P2 would have been perfect), but they should also do a clip reel for all the games that are upcoming and push that automatically.
 
guek said:
I'd totally be down for it being called the "Nintendo U"
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Nintendo U is so much better than Nintendo Wii U. Sets itself apart from the Wii, avoiding the 3DS/DS mistake while still retaining the "U" in "You" and a weird quirky name that's easy to remember.
 
but like I said, videos would almost certainly be available weekly as is. They already have that service on the wii nintendo chanel. I just think most people are more likely to ignore an offer to watch a video than to play a demo.

It does depend though on how many demos we're talking about and how often. You're right that downloading and offering a dozen demos every month would be a bit overwhelming, and ultimately annoying due to the amount of space it'd take up. But 3-4 featured demos once a month? That sounds perfect. There's probably really only 3-4 games worth paying any attention to every month anyway.
 
Easy_D said:
Nintendo U is so much better than Nintendo Wii U. Sets itself apart from the Wii, avoiding the 3DS/DS mistake while still retaining the "U" in "You" and a weird quirky name that's easy to remember.
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Wii is way too successful to abandon that name.
 
MrBelmontvedere said:
Wii is way too successful to abandon that name.
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I don't think so. The Wii hasn't been disassociated from the "Nintendo" branding. It may be referred to as just the wii but everyone knows its by Nintendo. If you say "Nintendo Wii" to a random soccer mom, she's not going to be confused whatsoever by the addition of "nintendo."

Unlike Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo's company name is associated with little else other than gaming. If they called it the Nintendo "U," people would immediately see it as something new and different. They'd view it as a brand new product. I'd bet you anything tons of people are going to hear "Wii U" and wonder if it's some kind of new attachement like Wii Fit or Xbox Kinect.
 
MrBelmontvedere said:
Wii is way too successful to abandon that name.
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Well, when you take the Nintendo 3DS'es branding it's pretty obvious that the name can cause more brand confusion than it has to. Now with some hindsight Nintendo could have made a cross-platform name for their casual games so they could have adverts like.

"Your Mii adventures continue on the new Nintendo U system, with even better controls than before blah blah yadda yadda marketing stuff"
 
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