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[Yagharek]

Tower defence games will be great on it too. You could even have a versus mode. Wiimote controls for defenders, tablet controls for invader to plot their route and divide troops.

DS was meant to be perfect for rts games that never eventuated. Wii U could do for RTS controls what pointer controls did for fps and pro evo games.

 

[ecosse_011172]

Do you guys think Wii-U could run Rage without texture pop-in?

AS it's an AMD chip I doubt it

 

[Log4Girlz]

Tower defence games will be great on it too. You could even have a versus mode. Wiimote controls for defenders, tablet controls for invader to plot their route and divide troops.

DS was meant to be perfect for rts games that never eventuated. Wii U could do for RTS controls what pointer controls did for fps and pro evo games.

Man so many awesome possibilities.

 

[disap.ed]

AS it's an AMD chip I doubt it

Lol, hope the embedded RAM will help.

 

[Log4Girlz]

I wonder what will get more support next gen...Wii-U tabletroller, or the next-gen Kinect...hmm

 

[MDX]

I wonder what will get more support next gen...Wii-U tabletroller, or the next-gen Kinect...hmm

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MS's new console is a tablet.
This way they will compete with Sony(Vista), Nintendo(WiiU) & Apple(iPad) at the same time.
They are investing a lot into SoCs.

 

[stilgar]

I wonder what will get more support next gen...Wii-U tabletroller, or the next-gen Kinect...hmm

hmmm speaking of troller

Also you forgot future lollipop. "What is your bulb color, if I may ask?"

 

[Luigiv]

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if MS's new console is a tablet.
This way they will compete with Sony(Vista), Nintendo(WiiU) & Apple(iPad) at the same time.
They are investing a lot into SoCs.

Not a chance. They already have Windows 8 ARM Edition to fill that void, plus they have their whole "3 screens and the cloud" strategy. The Xbox is for the TV screen, WP7 and Windows ARM on the potable screen and Windows 8 X86 on the workstation screen.

 

[BurntPork]

The guy from EA Sports said that himself. Remember he said they had people under NDA that were helping Nintendo with the online system

I don't remember that. I believe you, but for reference I'd like to see the source.

 

[AceBandage]

I don't remember that. I believe you, but for reference I'd like to see the source.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-27-ea-wii-u-can-do-anything-ps3-360-can

A large question lingers around what the online capabilities of Wii U will be. Wilson wouldn't say whether new dev kits reveal more online Wii U functionality, but did highlight an "openness and willingness" by Nintendo to listen to their developer and publisher partners.

There are people at EA "under very strict NDAs" that are working those online Wii U systems out with Nintendo.

"[Online is] something that we're working very closely with Nintendo on," said Wilson. "We are highlighting to them what we believe are the most important elements to that infrastructure to deliver a connected experience that we think is the future of gaming.

"They have demonstrated an openness and willingness to work with us and work with developers that I think will only land us in a positive place.

"We're working through the development with them now," he added. "We have a series of people who are under very strict NDAs as you can imagine, operating with them, building that system out."

 

[BurntPork]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-27-ea-wii-u-can-do-anything-ps3-360-can

That does sound familiar now that I think about it...

 

[specialguy]

October 5 and no concrete real news...to the contrary things have dried up.

Oh well, it's a matter of time, it's already been 4 months since E3.

 

[mclem]

What were they trying to sell during E3, 'mystery'?

The promise of a different way of playing.

I agree that they didn't do it *well*, but I think the intent was solid.

 

[JosephManderley]

The silence really is deafening right now on the Wii U. I'm beginning to wonder if the "mixed reception" at E3 has Nintendo second guessing themselves, and the lack of news is a symptom of that.

I can see the launch slipping to Holiday 2012 easily.

 

[MDX]

The Xbox is for the TV screen, WP7 and Windows ARM on the potable screen and Windows 8 X86 on the workstation screen.

Exactly.
Edit to add:
Its *Mobile*, TV, Computer.

iPad2 and iPhone4S can already stream to TV.

I mean you really think MS will simply come out with just another boring box, with Kinect?
When there is a tablet revolution going on? They even see Nintendo going with a tablet-like controller. And they even have to consider that Sony will ape Nintendo and come out with their own Tablet-like controller. Do they want to be the odd man out? They also see how big the mobile market is (PSP, DS).

MS will want to expand their market. Thats what you do in business.

 

[nickcv]

The silence really is deafening right now on the Wii U. I'm beginning to wonder if the "mixed reception" at E3 has Nintendo second guessing themselves, and the lack of news is a symptom of that.

I can see the launch slipping to Holiday 2012 easily.

i don't really think so...
they clearly said that we would have not seen any news for the rest of the year

 

[MDX]

i don't really think so...
they clearly said that we would have not seen any news for the rest of the year

Yes, its clear that this year is all about getting 3DS into consumer hands.
Look how the Wii has been sacrificed in NOA.

 

[bgassassin]

Do you guys think Wii-U could run Rage without texture pop-in?

*looks at pop-in videos*

Ha. What happened? Are those Gigamegatextures a burden?

 

[Luigiv]

Exactly.
Edit to add:
Its *Mobile*, TV, Computer.

iPad2 and iPhone4S can already stream to TV.

I mean you really think MS will simply come out with just another boring box, with Kinect?
When there is a tablet revolution going on? They even see Nintendo going with a tablet-like controller. And they even have to consider that Sony will ape Nintendo and come out with their own Tablet-like controller. Do they want to be the odd man out? They also see how big the mobile market is (PSP, DS).

MS will want to expand their market. Thats what you do in business.

You're not reading what I wrote are you?

 

[MadOdorMachine]

Have we heard how much space will be on the internal flash drive?

 

[IsntChrisL]

Have we heard how much space will be on the internal flash drive?

Supposedly 8GB. Hopefully they add more than that though.

 

[wsippel]

Supposedly 8GB. Hopefully they add more than that though.

There's no point, really. It would just increase manufacturing costs without bringing anything worthwhile to the table. WiiU isn't a DD only platform, so 8GB is plenty for the majority users. If you download a lot of stuff, you're free to expand the capacity with off the shelf parts to your hearts content.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

There's no point, really. It would just increase manufacturing costs without bringing anything worthwhile to the table. WiiU isn't a DD only platform, so 8GB is plenty for the majority users. If you download a lot of stuff, you're free to expand the capacity with off the shelf parts to your hearts content.

installing one game could take up all the space. Throw in the downloading of demos, betas, games from the store, etc...8gb is absolutely nothing.

Of course this assumes Nintendo will be in a position to offer the things I listed.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

Supposedly 8GB. Hopefully they add more than that though.

That doesn't give me warm fuzzies at all. 8GB is pathetic and an indication of how poor the system will be in terms of general power as well as Nintendo's online stance. Yes, let's hope they increase that!

There's no point, really. It would just increase manufacturing costs without bringing anything worthwhile to the table. WiiU isn't a DD only platform, so 8GB is plenty for the majority users. If you download a lot of stuff, you're free to expand the capacity with off the shelf parts to your hearts content.

Exactly as -Pyromaniac- said. It doesn't bode well for their online presence including game downloads and would literally mean Nintendo learned nothing from Wii or 360s storage shortfalls. It's also an indication that they are being cheap on the system in general. We've already heard rumors that the processors in the controllers were cheap. This just adds more fuel to the fire. Well, my hype is back down to reality. I expect it to be only slightly better than 360/PS3 despite whatever new fabrication processes (SoP/SoC) they might be pioneering.

 

[giggas]

The silence really is deafening right now on the Wii U. I'm beginning to wonder if the "mixed reception" at E3 has Nintendo second guessing themselves, and the lack of news is a symptom of that.

I can see the launch slipping to Holiday 2012 easily.

If they're smart they'll launch it Holiday 2012. We don't want another 3DS fiasco on our hands where they release a console early without much support.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

man i forgot this thing existed

 

[TunaLover]

man i forgot this thing existed

The thread? Wii U? both?

 

[BurntPork]

installing one game could take up all the space. Throw in the downloading of demos, betas, games from the store, etc...8gb is absolutely nothing.

Of course this assumes Nintendo will be in a position to offer the things I listed.

By "be in a position" I guess you mean "willing to"?

That doesn't give me warm fuzzies at all. 8GB is pathetic and an indication of how poor the system will be in terms of general power as well as Nintendo's online stance. Yes, let's hope they increase that!


Exactly as -Pyromaniac- said. It doesn't bode well for their online presence including game downloads and would literally mean Nintendo learned nothing from Wii or 360s storage shortfalls. It's also an indication that they are being cheap on the system in general. We've already heard rumors that the processors in the controllers were cheap. This just adds more fuel to the fire. Well, my hype is back down to reality. I expect it to be only slightly better than 360/PS3 despite whatever new fabrication processes (SoP/SoC) they might be pioneering.

How on earth does that speak for power?

 

[Cerebral Assassin]

installing one game could take up all the space. Throw in the downloading of demos, betas, games from the store, etc...8gb is absolutely nothing.

Of course this assumes Nintendo will be in a position to offer the things I listed.

Except for Betas all of these things are already offered by Nintendo, its insane to think the Wii U won't.

 

[[Nintex]]

man i forgot this thing existed

I think this is the worst next-gen console hype campaign since the Panasonic Jungle.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

Have we heard how much space will be on the internal flash drive?

8 gig rumored, expandable through off-the shelf SD Cards, USB thumb drives, and USB Hard Drives confirmed. It seems Nintendo's strategy with Wii U and 3DS is to avoid the storage wars altogether by giving users enough space to get started, and then the freedom to expand it on their own.

 

[EloquentM]

8 gig rumored, expandable through off-the shelf SD Cards, USB thumb drives, and USB Hard Drives confirmed. It seems Nintendo's strategy with Wii U and 3DS is to avoid the storage wars altogether by giving users enough space to get started, and then the freedom to expand it on their own.

This method also saves $$$ on nintendo's part.

 

[orioto]

I'm wondering how they'll manage the fact that two radically opposed approach and needs are coming for them.

_On a side, 3ds was celarly too expansive and i think that stopped nintendo in thinking they could break their historical price limit. I think before the 3ds problem, they were probably thinking, WiiU can be 350$, it's ok. If this is the case, they probably downgraded the console..

_Now on the other side, the WiiU is less and less a middle gen console. Nothing seemed ready at last E3, we just saw some ports, there is probably zero big Nintendo games ready for an early or half 2012 launch... A fall 2012 launch would honestly put the WiiU in the same launch window as other next consoles, with a 6-12 month advance. That would be a PS2-NGC/XBOX gap in time, no more. If Nintendo really wants to avoid a phenomena where the "blue ocean" appeal is not enough, and gamers just wait for the "real" next gen, they'll have to go for something powerful enough.

 

[BurntPork]

If they're smart they'll launch it Holiday 2012. We don't want another 3DS fiasco on our hands where they release a console early without much support.

With it looking more like XBox 720 will launch at that time, waiting until then will cause Wii U to be completely massacred unless Nintendo hits it out of the park in all areas. (And, really, they won't.) Besides, with it getting multiplat support there's no way it can end up like 3DS so long as they have a killer app ready at launch.

 

[guek]

8gb makes complete sense. Many people wont care enough about downloadable content to fill even 8gb. Anyone who needs more can get a dirt cheap external drive.

I don't think of it as nintendo being cheap, I see it as them freeing up costs (both monetary and heat) for other more worthwhile areas.

 

[bgassassin]

Jorok summed it up very wel... wait he's a junior, horrible post!!

installing one game could take up all the space. Throw in the downloading of demos, betas, games from the store, etc...8gb is absolutely nothing.

Of course this assumes Nintendo will be in a position to offer the things I listed.

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/3572...Of_Automatic_Demo_Downloads_For_3DS_Wii_U.php

Nintendo president Satoru Iwata suggested the company is looking into automatically pushing demos to 3DS and Wii U systems -- with the owners' prior consent -- in order to expose those players to new experiences.

_On a side, 3ds was celarly too expansive and i think that stopped nintendo in thinking they could break their historical price limit. I think before the 3ds problem, they were probably thinking, WiiU can be 350$, it's ok. If this is the case, they probably downgraded the console..

_Now on the other side, the WiiU is less and less a middle gen console. Nothing seemed ready at last E3, we just saw some ports, there is probably zero big Nintendo games ready for an early or half 2012 launch... A fall 2012 launch would honestly put the WiiU in the same launch window as other next consoles, with a 6-12 month advance. That would be a PS2-NGC/XBOX gap in time, no more. If Nintendo really wants to avoid a phenomena where the "blue ocean" appeal is not enough, and gamers just wait for the "real" next gen, they'll have to go for something powerful enough.

They'll cut (or remove altogether) their hw profit margin before cutting power. I still say they were copying the Wii announcement schedule and just handled it poorly this time. Nothing was really said about Wii when they revealed it. IMO they said more for Wii U than Wii. They just didn't present it like they had in the past (e.g. show the console first).

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Nothing seemed ready at last E3, we just saw some ports, there is probably zero big Nintendo games ready for an early or half 2012 launch

Not to demean your analysis here, but isn't that kind of already assumed by the fact that they explicitly said it would not be an early 2012 launch?

 

[wsippel]

installing one game could take up all the space. Throw in the downloading of demos, betas, games from the store, etc...8gb is absolutely nothing.

Of course this assumes Nintendo will be in a position to offer the things I listed.

They won't allow installs. There's no reason, really. The current HD consoles only need installs because the drives are too slow for the amount of memory those devices have.

And again: If you plan to participate in beta tests or download lots of Gamecube classics, get an USB harddisk. Whatever Nintendo could include wouldn't be enough for some people, and anything more than 8GB would already be too much for many others. 8GB plus SD card and USB mass storage support is a very reasonable, convenient and cost efficient solution.

 

[DownWithTheShip]

There's a WiiU somewhere at my work right now and i'm trying to get a hold of it. Hopefully I can talk to the right people and make that happen.

 

[guek]

I'm wondering how they'll manage the fact that two radically opposed approach and needs are coming for them.

_On a side, 3ds was celarly too expansive and i think that stopped nintendo in thinking they could break their historical price limit. I think before the 3ds problem, they were probably thinking, WiiU can be 350$, it's ok. If this is the case, they probably downgraded the console..

Or it could be that they realized that they simply misread demand and should price Wii U closer to cost. The 3DS is priced very close to cost right now and doing very well. They did it with the GC, they're doing it now with the 3DS, and I predict they'll do the same with Wii U.

 

[EloquentM]

There's a WiiU somewhere at my work right now and i'm trying to get a hold of it. Hopefully I can talk to the right people and make that happen.

Steal it

 

[guek]

There's a WiiU somewhere at my work right now and i'm trying to get a hold of it. Hopefully I can talk to the right people and make that happen.

...make it so

 

[BurntPork]

Steal it

Gut it

 

[DownWithTheShip]

Steal it

I'll be happy just to see it. I am not personally involved with the project.

 

[guek]

can you reveal at least where you work?

 

[StevieP]

There's a WiiU somewhere at my work right now and i'm trying to get a hold of it. Hopefully I can talk to the right people and make that happen.

When you steal it, get out your trusty triwing screwdriver and crack that bitch open lol

 

[DownWithTheShip]

can you reveal at least where you work?

Sorry, no. Information is pretty tight right now and revealing something like that could get me fired. I've actually gone online trying to see if there were any articles about my companies involvement but haven't been able to find anything. If I do find something I would be happy to say where I work, since it would be public knowledge at that point that we are involved.

I found out in December of last year that we are invloved with the development of the system.

 

[EloquentM]

Gut it

Well this was the obvious progressional action after he stole it

 

[Fernando Rocker]

Sorry, no. Information is pretty tight right now and revealing something like that could get me fired. I've actually gone online trying to see if there were any articles about my companies involvement but haven't been able to find anything. If I do find something I would be happy to say where I work, since it would be public knowledge at that point that we are involved.

I found out in December of last year that we are invloved with the development of the system.

Hardware or software?

 

[walking fiend]

Sorry, no. Information is pretty tight right now and revealing something like that could get me fired. I've actually gone online trying to see if there were any articles about my companies involvement but haven't been able to find anything. If I do find something I would be happy to say where I work, since it would be public knowledge at that point that we are involved.

I found out in December of last year that we are invloved with the development of the system.

Since last December? Which means 3rd parties have been prepping for almost one year by now. Nice!