Jag
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Nice list. Any idea if there will be a way to auto-loot via an addon?
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Nice list. Any idea if there will be a way to auto-loot via an addon?
Sweet Ivy
Member
Question:
do you think it will be possible to pay with in-game currency without spending a lot on game time for the task?
Like, how many play hours could take to gather enough gold to pay for the subscription?
I'm not a MMORPG player and would prolly enjoy it only sporadically (hence paying the sub wouldn't be worth it), but I love the setting and the style and would like to give it a try.
do you think it will be possible to pay with in-game currency without spending a lot on game time for the task?
Like, how many play hours could take to gather enough gold to pay for the subscription?
I'm not a MMORPG player and would prolly enjoy it only sporadically (hence paying the sub wouldn't be worth it), but I love the setting and the style and would like to give it a try.
Very unlikely. It's going to be expensive. Work an extra hour at your job or do some data entry work. You'll likely save a lot of time.
It's already amazingly easy and lazy, lol. Just keep at it. I don't even stop to loot after killing. Just move on to the next mob and loot during combat it's so easy and efficient. And has a suprisingly wide radius. It's become 2nd nature I don't even realize I'm doing it anymore heh.
You underestimate how lazy ferny needs things
It's going to be other players selling the game time credit (AND it costs more, it seems, at $20 vs $15 based on subscription rates), so unless they're willing to part with it for 2 hours of in-game farming, it's going to take much more than that. I don't think that's a realistic expectation. It's really an option for people who play the game all day, or if you're financially inclined and play the AH/CX during your game time instead.
Hey guys. I just received my press kit and it included an infographic that's worth checking out. These are the most accurate path and race statistics you will find pre-release.
WildStar Infographic: 1.6 Million Characters in Closed Beta, Most Popular Races and Paths
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/a...in-closed-beta-most-popular-races-and-classes
And now there's also an official guide.
WildStar: Official Guide to Nexus
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/697051-wildstar-official-guide-to-nexus
WildStar Infographic: 1.6 Million Characters in Closed Beta, Most Popular Races and Paths
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/a...in-closed-beta-most-popular-races-and-classes
And now there's also an official guide.
WildStar: Official Guide to Nexus
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/697051-wildstar-official-guide-to-nexus
Sweet Ivy
Member
Yes, that's actually what I'd guess, especially at the beginning.
Two hours a month of farming would be easy... to easy!
Well, I'm not in a rush, it would be interesting to have some stats about this once the game is out.
Very likely, but it's probably going to take a few good months!
Going Dominion or exile? I'll be rolling on Pergo myself on the Dominion side.
Dominion.
Sounds good! Maybe I'll see you guys around on the server. Name is Nirran and I'll be maining an esper healer.
Sounds like Pergo Dominion is where a bunch of the big guilds are going as well.
I'm definitely going Dominion after looking at the statistics. It's looking like Exile will be much more popular.
really? I expect the exact opposite to be true.
In WoW at launch, 100-400g was a TON of money and could take days of farming to acquire. Now just running dailies you can probably clear 400-1000g per day.
I would be shocked if this is any different. At launch what you get for a CREDD will probably be trivial compared to what you get for one say two years down the road. of course that is because of gold devaluation not CREDD devaluation.
With that being said... yes, 2 hours of farming is likely a ridiculous expectation. The way they put it on the official website is about the gist of it. People with way more time than money will be the buyers of this stuff.
Based on typical RMT rates of other games... and comfortable f2p standards... I would guess probably around 80-120 hours of mid-range/casual gold generating activities or 1/4 that for honest to goodness gold farming (so 20-30 hours of nothing but gold farming)
my guess is casually playing for 20 hours or less a week there is no way someone would be able to afford a CREDD in a month.
Sweet Ivy
Member
Well, in the end though you're saying the same thing... in terms of time.
So even though they may end up costing more gold, it should take less time to acquire said larger quantity of gold.
Well, 20-30 hours would probably be more than I'd play the game in a month
! Definitely not an option then.
shigsy
Member
I had the same thing. What I ended up doing was installing the Galaxy Library addon which lets you preview gear on your character. I created what I thought was an awesome looking Mordesh and then when I went in and randomly clicked on some epic gear in Galaxy Library I found he looked like a right bloater! Went back and recreated him and then checked it again.
Hope this helps!
Not sure if that's really true, as they make 19.99 a month off of someone paying with CREDD vs. 14.99 for the paid subscription. Regardless, I'd be surprised if you weren't correct that most people will just pay for the sub.
There's no net difference to them, since CREDD has to be purchased directly anyway, so some percentage of players is bankrolling the "nonpaying" share of the base.
TharpDaddy
Member
I had the same thing. What I ended up doing was installing the Galaxy Library addon which lets you preview gear on your character. I created what I thought was an awesome looking Mordesh and then when I went in and randomly clicked on some epic gear in Galaxy Library I found he looked like a right bloater! Went back and recreated him and then checked it again.
Hope this helps!
I think what i ended up going with will work out well, i'll check out that addon though. Thanks!
helloresolven
Member
Well, in the end though you're saying the same thing... in terms of time.
So even though they may end up costing more gold, it should take less time to acquire said larger quantity of gold.
Well, 20-30 hours would probably be more than I'd play the game in a month
Sounds like you are more on the end of people they want to buy CREDD and sell for gold, since you won't be playing as much as a lot of other people.
MHWilliams
Member
The press pack was really interesting this time. I was surprised to find that infographic inside.
I don't know. I do agree it will help them somewhat but having that constant flow of a subscription from the player, I think, is what they really would want. But I'm not economist, I'm just a lonely Warrior!
Quick Mustard
Member
Ok, so I've installed the client, logged in and made a char to muck about with.
I assume that because I can do this, the code I was given is my Early Access and Beta code?
Also, oh my god at the music, its so damn good!
But, I've maxed the graphics out and there are no shadows?
I assume that because I can do this, the code I was given is my Early Access and Beta code?
Also, oh my god at the music, its so damn good!
But, I've maxed the graphics out and there are no shadows?
TheCthultist
Member
How demanding is this going to be graphics-wise? My pc isn't terrible but I'm at that point where I'd love to preorder this but don't know if my computer can handle it... Not looking for maxed quality, obviously
Yeah, that's a decent point, over a long period of time I could imagine there's some benefit to the sub model, since people may just end up leaving their sub active even while not playing. God knows I probably did at least six months of that in WoW. Would be interesting to see statistics on that as a game ages.
Still, the extra five bucks from a CREDD purchase would be pretty nice too.
Those icons for the paths are wrong, that sort of leads me to believe it isn't really an official infographic, but the data seems relatively accurate.
I noticed that too, but this is what was sent out by NCSoft's PR. I have an actual laminated copy of it.
Am I missing something or are the classes not listed/shown?
Everyone I know always plays the opposite faction they plan to play in beta and spend more time on classes they don't expect to play, so I wonder how that data will carry over to launch.
It's supposed to be paths. Thanks for correcting me.
TharpDaddy
Member
What are your specs? It's CPU intensive.
Compared to GW2, I would say the combat seems more diverse and interesting to me. I felt GW2 combat was a little lackluster since you can't really change skills, just weapons --which in turn change skills, sure -- but I think the combat here is more interesting.
For exploration there is the explorer path which is filled with jumping puzzles and map exploration quests and all that jazz.
The dungeons I feel are more interesting. I never was a fan of GW2 dungeons. The trinity not being there may have had something to do with that which can be a pro/con depending where you stand, but I found them a little dull while the WS dungeons look really fun and challenging.
There are things that GW2 does very well and WS may not be as good in those areas, but I think if you liked GW2 but wanted a little more substance in some areas, WS is a good fit. This is just personal opinion as well. Want to stress that bit of it
For exploration there is the explorer path which is filled with jumping puzzles and map exploration quests and all that jazz.
The dungeons I feel are more interesting. I never was a fan of GW2 dungeons. The trinity not being there may have had something to do with that which can be a pro/con depending where you stand, but I found them a little dull while the WS dungeons look really fun and challenging.
There are things that GW2 does very well and WS may not be as good in those areas, but I think if you liked GW2 but wanted a little more substance in some areas, WS is a good fit. This is just personal opinion as well. Want to stress that bit of it
20 hours a week is a ton, anyone playing that reasonably intelligently will be raking in the gold.
I played a LOT of wow, but actual gold generating activities? almost none at all. People are by and large completely incompetent at making money in these games, and the chinese farmer method is to work harder not smarter (well, until they get hacked accounts). Any legitimate player can find lots of creative ways to make gold.
For example. in wow you could do ONE challenge mode sale run per month and make enough gold to buy a sub at RMT prices (and I have done just that). That's like, 3-4 hours tops.
Also, you're right that CREDD is going to be drastically cheaper at launch than later on. Look at GW2, you could buy like 10 bucks worth of gems for a gold right at launch. now? I don't even want to think about the inflation in that game. Someone with a lot of money is going to hit 15, want a mount, and not have enough, so they'll drop a credd for like 15-20 gold.
This is a dangerous question, but I'll answer it.
This game has the holy trinity. You have a tank, a healer, and damage dealers. This leads to more structure in group content, as each person has a defined role (although healers can do damage while not healing, tanks can add some damage if far ahead in threat, etc). Guild Wars 2 does not have this, but instead is "everyone do everything" with specialization in certain areas like debuffing or crowd control. This is purely a preference.
This game has big monthly updates (we hope, they've said as much). July is a new end-game zone, August is a new battleground and/or arena, September is a new raid, dungeon, or adventure. Guild Wars 2 has bi-weekly mini updates involving an evolving world, as they call it. Again, preference.
This game has a subscription fee. Guild Wars 2 does not. This is supposed to make updates more frequent and of a higher quality than if it did not have a subscription, but this will be seen.
Any other differences/similarities are hard to explain to someone who hasn't played World of Warcraft. This game is vanilla (no expansion) World of Warcraft with an action combat system, housing, and a unique warplot PVP system. That's incredibly reductive, but if I could sum it up in one sentence, that's what I'd use.
HappyPuppy
Member
Can someone share some insight on what was Vanilla WoW and why is it so fondly remembered. I always see it mention a lot, only played WoW for about a month back when WotLK was released. I'm interested since the devs come from that time.
There were a lot less convenience-based tools like dungeon/raid finder, so the game was more social in the sense that you had to actually PM people or talk in channels to form groups.
Raids were much bigger with 40 people, and encounter design hadn't been refined to a science yet, and so they were much more old school in their design and philosophies. TBC had much better raids, but everyone will remember T3 Naxx more fondly.
World PvP at Tarren Mill/Southshore before instanced BG-based PvP became a thing.
A lot of it is nostalgia for a game world that was less streamlined (game-y) and more of a world.
Vanilla World of Warcraft was about the adventure, not the goal. Was it grindy? Yes. Was it broken? Sure was. But underneath all that was a gem of a game, a game that brought out the imagination of those who played it. It was all about the experience. Wildstar is all about that. The first dungeons make you go "wow". There are dozens if not hundreds of rare enemies that when interacted with in certain ways drop different, fun items. Open world PVP is a constant threat.
Some will say "well, that's because it was new". I don't agree. Sure, it was new, but vanilla WoW focused very much on giving you fun, exciting, and grand adventures before you hit the max level. Many dislike the beginning levels in Wildstar, but if you fight Forgemaster Trogun and don't have a smile on your face, I feel bad for you.
Vanilla WoW had a ton of issues, there's no doubt. But that laser focus on giving you an adventure is something that Blizzard has lost in recent years, and I can't wait to feel that again with Wildstar.
TharpDaddy
Member
Carbine is doing 3 days of WildStar streaming with special guests.
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/53876-wildstar-countdown-to-launch/
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/53876-wildstar-countdown-to-launch/
SilverBulletKY
Neo Member
Does the headstart begin tonight at midnight?
Nope, one more day.
TharpDaddy
Member
Tomorrow will be the longest day.